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I have so much respect for Nadia for refusing to stop speaking to Perez
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scout2006
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by droogiefret:
“I'm not saying Katie doesn't have any attractive qualities at all - you do want her to be a better person and it's good when she shows a softer side. But she is complex and, ultimately, deeply flawed as an adult.

She comes across more as a child to me. You want to like any child. To reward them when they do good and try to tell them the bad things they do are not really them. You want them to want to be good people. And there are flashes in Katie that make you think she can change and be a decent person.

But ..... she's not really a child. So a harsh judgement of her is inevitable.”

I've never seen a less complex person. Katie's God is money and the easiest way to earn money these days is to let the tabloids, magazines and tv companies throw it at you in great big bundles. She gets paid for writing controversial drivel that will increase the click through rate of a tabloid website then she gets paid again to appear on This Morning or some such to discuss the same piece of twaddle.
justatech
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Luner13:
“Just because the vile Katie Hopkins feels she should.

Go Nads.”

I think that you are being naive. Nadia has obviously been briefed by BB that she is coming across as a nightmare and has been told to wind her neck in and be a bit more careful what she says and does. Together with this advice BB have cut down on her exposure in the highlight shows.
Penny Crayon
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by justatech:
“I think that you are being naive. Nadia has obviously been briefed by BB that she is coming across as a nightmare and has been told to wind her neck in and be a bit more careful what she says and does. Together with this advice BB have cut down on her exposure in the highlight shows.”

And why would they do that?
EvieJ
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by justatech:
“I think that you are being naive. Nadia has obviously been briefed by BB that she is coming across as a nightmare and has been told to wind her neck in and be a bit more careful what she says and does. Together with this advice BB have cut down on her exposure in the highlight shows.”

That might explain what looks a little like hypocrisy.
onfencewithrach
18-01-2015
Yeah, Nadia's awesome.

Admire so much how much she stands for what she believes in when it's difficult to do so. She could take the easy way but fights her corner with every part of her even when it's perhaps the most difficult choice, and is selfless with it as well in the sense that it could hurt her position or her popularity, or cause people to go against her but she continues on.

Loving Nadia at the moment. Two amazing showings back to back of her strength of character.
scout2006
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by justatech:
“I think that you are being naive. Nadia has obviously been briefed by BB that she is coming across as a nightmare and has been told to wind her neck in and be a bit more careful what she says and does. Together with this advice BB have cut down on her exposure in the highlight shows.”

....and the studio next to the BB house is the one they filmed the fake moon landing in.
What a shambles
18-01-2015
Nadia is a whitewashed tomb.
sandy50
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by What a shambles:
“Nadia is a whitewashed tomb.”

(don't hold back)
blahblahblah57
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by What a shambles:
“Nadia is a whitewashed tomb.”

What does that even mean?
Paace
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Luner13:
“Just because the vile Katie Hopkins feels she should.

Go Nads.”

The brazen face cheek of that Hopkins trying to control the house for her benefit . Whats more is those two stupid Americans Cami and Michelle, hang on her every word . I wonder are they fully aware of her mean, nasty, vitriolic nature and the sick, hurtful stuff she writes .
sandy50
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“The brazen face cheek of that Hopkins trying to control the house for her benefit . Whats more is those two stupid Americans Cami and Michelle, hang on her every word . I wonder are they fully aware of her mean, nasty, vitriolic nature and the sick, hurtful stuff she writes .”

she's told them what she writes, and what she hates in people
they all discussed it !
She isn't controlling the house - Keith , Patsy and Nadia all spoke to Perez, they didn't care what Katie H said about it, - we saw Patsy and Keith defend doing so , to her. But later we saw Keith decided for himself, he'd had enough of Perez, his decision.

And who's shouting 'Go Nads' !!
Paace
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“she's told them what she writes, and what she hates in people
they all discussed it !
She isn't controlling the house - Keith , Patsy and Nadia all spoke to Perez, they didn't care what Katie H said about it, - we saw Patsy and Keith defend doing so , to her. But later we saw Keith decided for himself, he'd had enough of Perez, his decision.

And who's shouting 'Go Nads' !! ”

Exactly, from her lips .

They haven't seen the hateful, mean, nasty stuff she writes .
hisdogspot
18-01-2015
I've been pretty scathing about Nadia but you make a valid point op

It is certainly to her credit that she will not be swayed or bullied into joining the gang that is determined to target and isolate Perez
sandy50
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Exactly, from her lips .

They haven't seen the hateful, mean, nasty stuff she writes .”

Think they've heard about her
She even told Katie P infront of them what she said about her calling her daughter 'bunny' !
Jay Bigz
18-01-2015
For all of her faults, she's shown herself to be very loyal, which is a good trait to have.

If you ever found yourself in hot water, or alienated, you'd need a friend like Nadia to help you get through it - somebody who doesn't just follow the crowd, and will even risk their own reputation by still speaking to you.

Perez has obviously bought this all upon himself though, and I haven't even felt the slightest bit sorry for him at any time, even when they're all ganging up on him. I'd have more respect for him if he just played the villain without all the tears and breakdowns every day - it's so cringe worthy and highlights how unstable he is.
What name??
18-01-2015
She seems like a decent and principled lady. A bit of a nagger and hamfisted but she seems to mean well.
bbcrzy
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“I've never seen a less complex person. Katie's God is money and the easiest way to earn money these days is to let the tabloids, magazines and tv companies throw it at you in great big bundles. She gets paid for writing controversial drivel that will increase the click through rate of a tabloid website then she gets paid again to appear on This Morning or some such to discuss the same piece of twaddle.”

what we really should be discussing is her epilepsy. she was telling the others she has small seizures daily. First thing I wonder is what medication she is on.

the reason i say that is that many of those brain medications Alter thinking patterns and increase hostility and combative agitation. It COULD explain how she can say such vile stuff and have NO reaction, No feelings of remorse etc

its easy to shrug off calling someone stupid if you dont feel any remorse of any kind thanks to a wacking dose of meds three times a day
hopeless case
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“Yeah, Nadia's awesome.

Admire so much how much she stands for what she believes in when it's difficult to do so. She could take the easy way but fights her corner with every part of her even when it's perhaps the most difficult choice, and is selfless with it as well in the sense that it could hurt her position or her popularity, or cause people to go against her but she continues on.

Loving Nadia at the moment. Two amazing showings back to back of her strength of character.”

She doesn't believe in Perez. She's staying friends with him to spite Katie and prove that she won't be told want to do. Hardly the most righteous approach.
onfencewithrach
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by hopeless case:
“She doesn't believe in Perez. She's staying friends with him to spite Katie and prove that she won't be told want to do. Hardly the most righteous approach.”

It's not about Perez, it's about Nadia and what she believes in and fights for.

Even if she hated Perez, it wouldn't be necessarily about Perez in stopping a group from isolating someone it would be about not isolating someone... she might not be best friends with Alicia, might not even see her after this experience but she put herself out there and stood up for her probably because it's about Alicia and it isn't, it's probably also because she doesn't believe in being so mean to someone and she fights against it, etc.

Standing up for Alicia against a group treating her terribly and standing up against a group isolating an individual, and against Females being harassed (in her interpretation) seems pretty righteous to me. Definitely more so then some of the others in there.
EvieJ
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“It's not about Perez, it's about Nadia and what she believes in and fights for.

Even if she hated Perez, it wouldn't be necessarily about Perez in stopping a group from isolating someone it would be about not isolating someone... she might not be best friends with Alicia, might not even see her after this experience but she put herself out there and stood up for her probably because it's about Alicia and it isn't, it's probably also because she doesn't believe in being so mean to someone and she fights against it, etc.

Standing up for Alicia against a group treating her terribly and standing up against a group isolating an individual, and against Females being harassed (in her interpretation) seems pretty righteous to me.”

But she was ok with isolating Ken. His actions were wrong but she was more than happy to stir things for him in an attempt to turn the house against him.
aurichie
18-01-2015
It's good to see Nadia is starting to get the respect and appreciation she deserves around here. It was all hate a few days ago and comments like I can't wait for her to go (totally undeserved).

It would be nice if one of the good people won Big Brother for a change. Nadia would be the most worthy winner right now navigating through all the chaos in that house with dignity intact.
ScreamingTree<3
18-01-2015
I think it's good that she isn't isolating someone just because everyone else is. I don't like her, but I like Katie H, Cami, Michelle, Callum, Kav and the two old men less.
ScreamingTree<3
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“what we really should be discussing is her epilepsy. she was telling the others she has small seizures daily. First thing I wonder is what medication she is on.

the reason i say that is that many of those brain medications Alter thinking patterns and increase hostility and combative agitation. It COULD explain how she can say such vile stuff and have NO reaction, No feelings of remorse etc

its easy to shrug off calling someone stupid if you dont feel any remorse of any kind thanks to a wacking dose of meds three times a day”

If her meds affect her so much she shouldn't have gone in the house and she certainly should have some self insight to not go around publicly damaging people. she should choose a profession where her vile outburst do not affect those who are none of her concern.
sinbad22uk
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Exactly.

This forum astounds me at times. She has done nothing to warrant being called nasty and spiteful. It makes you wonder what people are watching.”

The word for these people who are calling Katy H is sheep, they have few brain cells and go with the preconceived view rather than formulating their own.

PS Nadia is an underhand manipulating bitch, trying to be the peacemaker while really stirring the crap, she is one of the worst type of people you can meet because you think she is your friend but would have no problem stabbing you in the back if it suited her.
EvieJ
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by sinbad22uk:
“The word for these people who are calling Katy H is sheep, they have few brain cells and go with the preconceived view rather than formulating their own.

PS Nadia is an underhand manipulating bitch, trying to be the peacemaker while really stirring the crap, she is one of the worst type of people you can meet because you think she is your friend but would have no problem stabbing you in the back if it suited her.”

Yeah right ! Couldn't be that they've formed their own opinion?
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