How silly. Goes without saying Big Brother has never been for children. Under 11's should be watching CBBC not CBB.
I've stopped my kids watching this show
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Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“The point the OP was making was surely that BB has changed so much that even a vetted episode cannot be watched by under 11s. Most of the posts having a go at this are obviously suggesting that there never really have been suitable episodes of Bb for under 11s even when vetted. It seems to me the OP almost demanded we judge his parenting skills as he was asking us to agree that BB was at some time suitable for under 11s.
I don't really see what your example has to do with what the OP is saying to be honest. Unless you mean your parents let you watch Nightmare on Elm St or they complained that it wasn't suitable for you after letting you watch it
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“The point the OP was making was surely that BB has changed so much that even a vetted episode cannot be watched by under 11s. Most of the posts having a go at this are obviously suggesting that there never really have been suitable episodes of Bb for under 11s even when vetted. It seems to me the OP almost demanded we judge his parenting skills as he was asking us to agree that BB was at some time suitable for under 11s.
I don't really see what your example has to do with what the OP is saying to be honest. Unless you mean your parents let you watch Nightmare on Elm St or they complained that it wasn't suitable for you after letting you watch it
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1) Well TT to be clear.....there may well have been episodes where the op let their children watch after 'vetting' for example light swearing , innuendo zero nudity etc etc
whilst i do not agree or disagree with the op's choice the simple fact is swearing is part of everyday life in this day and age every playground , walking down the street , at the football match (the family seats are as bad as the stands) pretty much everywhere.
i think whilst others believe other series have been worse they are missing the point that there were possibly episodes that they deemed fine under their supervision whereas none this series have been, AT NO POINT DID THE OP SAY THEY ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO WHAT EVERY EPISODE OF A GIVEN SERIES.
2) I mentioned about my growing up to highlight the fact children will be exposed to FAR worse than anything BB shows on air and its naive to believe otherwise, when i was a child i never saw to many other kids with fluff in their hair from all the cotton wool they were being wrapped in and some comments here may well be a tad OTT or missing the context of the op entirely.
sometimes its correct to allow your children to do/watch something with supervision when they are going to do it anyway, children under 11 years old are more than capable of viewing bb without a t.v and under a controlled environment this isnt the 60's.
Originally Posted by changa:
“You let pre-teen kids watch BB? That is shocking.”
“You let pre-teen kids watch BB? That is shocking.”
I started watching BB/CBB when I was 12. Not really that shocking, lots of pre-teens watch it.
Originally Posted by bigBro2011:
“1) Well TT to be clear.....there may well have been episodes where the op let their children watch after 'vetting' for example light swearing , innuendo zero nudity etc etc
whilst i do not agree or disagree with the op's choice the simple fact is swearing is part of everyday life in this day and age every playground , walking down the street , at the football match (the family seats are as bad as the stands) pretty much everywhere.
i think whilst others believe other series have been worse that are missing the point that there were possibly episodes that they deemed fine under their supervision whereas none this series have been, AT NO POINT DID THE OP SAY THEY ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO WHAT EVERY EPISODE OF A GIVEN SERIES.
2) I mentioned about my growing up to highlight the fact children will be exposed to FAR worse than anything BB shows on air and its naive to believe otherwise, when i was a child i never saw to many other kids with fluff in their hair from all the cotton wool they were being wrapped in and some comments here may well be a tad OTT or missing the context of the op entirely.
sometimes its correct to allow your children to do/watch something with supervision when they are going to do it anyway, children under 11 years old are more than capable of viewing bb without a t.v and under a controlled environment this isnt the 60's.”
“1) Well TT to be clear.....there may well have been episodes where the op let their children watch after 'vetting' for example light swearing , innuendo zero nudity etc etc
whilst i do not agree or disagree with the op's choice the simple fact is swearing is part of everyday life in this day and age every playground , walking down the street , at the football match (the family seats are as bad as the stands) pretty much everywhere.
i think whilst others believe other series have been worse that are missing the point that there were possibly episodes that they deemed fine under their supervision whereas none this series have been, AT NO POINT DID THE OP SAY THEY ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO WHAT EVERY EPISODE OF A GIVEN SERIES.
2) I mentioned about my growing up to highlight the fact children will be exposed to FAR worse than anything BB shows on air and its naive to believe otherwise, when i was a child i never saw to many other kids with fluff in their hair from all the cotton wool they were being wrapped in and some comments here may well be a tad OTT or missing the context of the op entirely.
sometimes its correct to allow your children to do/watch something with supervision when they are going to do it anyway, children under 11 years old are more than capable of viewing bb without a t.v and under a controlled environment this isnt the 60's.”
It seems a little pointless to whine about something that isn't even supposed to be viewed by children.
If the op made a thread about himself not watching any more then it would be a valid discussion but so what if his kids can't watch??? It's like a short skinny person going into a Big and Tall shop to shop for clothes and then complaining to the owner that there's nothing here that fits him - pointless
Given the content from the outset, there is no way children should be watching, not only because of the adult content but the swearing!
Any parent thinking this is ok worries me greatly.
Any parent thinking this is ok worries me greatly.
Originally Posted by bigBro2011:
“1) Well TT to be clear.....there may well have been episodes where the op let their children watch after 'vetting' for example light swearing , innuendo zero nudity etc etc
whilst i do not agree or disagree with the op's choice the simple fact is swearing is part of everyday life in this day and age every playground , walking down the street , at the football match (the family seats are as bad as the stands) pretty much everywhere.
i think whilst others believe other series have been worse they are missing the point that there were possibly episodes that they deemed fine under their supervision whereas none this series have been, AT NO POINT DID THE OP SAY THEY ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO WHAT EVERY EPISODE OF A GIVEN SERIES.
2) I mentioned about my growing up to highlight the fact children will be exposed to FAR worse than anything BB shows on air and its naive to believe otherwise, when i was a child i never saw to many other kids with fluff in their hair from all the cotton wool they were being wrapped in and some comments here may well be a tad OTT or missing the context of the op entirely.
sometimes its correct to allow your children to do/watch something with supervision when they are going to do it anyway, children under 11 years old are more than capable of viewing bb without a t.v and under a controlled environment this isnt the 60's.”
“1) Well TT to be clear.....there may well have been episodes where the op let their children watch after 'vetting' for example light swearing , innuendo zero nudity etc etc
whilst i do not agree or disagree with the op's choice the simple fact is swearing is part of everyday life in this day and age every playground , walking down the street , at the football match (the family seats are as bad as the stands) pretty much everywhere.
i think whilst others believe other series have been worse they are missing the point that there were possibly episodes that they deemed fine under their supervision whereas none this series have been, AT NO POINT DID THE OP SAY THEY ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO WHAT EVERY EPISODE OF A GIVEN SERIES.
2) I mentioned about my growing up to highlight the fact children will be exposed to FAR worse than anything BB shows on air and its naive to believe otherwise, when i was a child i never saw to many other kids with fluff in their hair from all the cotton wool they were being wrapped in and some comments here may well be a tad OTT or missing the context of the op entirely.
sometimes its correct to allow your children to do/watch something with supervision when they are going to do it anyway, children under 11 years old are more than capable of viewing bb without a t.v and under a controlled environment this isnt the 60's.”
I'll be honest and say I don't actually care about the OP's kids or anybody else's
Each to their own I say but I responded to the OP because his point seemed to be that BB had changed over the years and now no longer had any episodes suitable for under 11s. My view is that it has not changed one bit. We had nudity, swearing and sexual references and exposure from series 1 on wards. It has always aired after the water shed because of this.The OP can let his children watch whatever he wants but the idea of trying to suggest BB has got more adult and therefore possibly worse in some way is not only annoying but very wrong.
Also the idea that those explaining this to the OP are somehow stupid seems to be the very thing that is being critcised IE not comprehending what people are actually saying
Originally Posted by getmadnow17:
“It seems a little pointless to whine about something that isn't even supposed to be viewed by children.
If the op made a thread about himself not watching any more then it would be a valid discussion but so what if his kids can't watch??? It's like a short skinny person going into a Big and Tall shop to shop for clothes and then complaining to the owner that there's nothing here that fits him - pointless”
“It seems a little pointless to whine about something that isn't even supposed to be viewed by children.
If the op made a thread about himself not watching any more then it would be a valid discussion but so what if his kids can't watch??? It's like a short skinny person going into a Big and Tall shop to shop for clothes and then complaining to the owner that there's nothing here that fits him - pointless”
To you maybe but obviously not the op.....maybe the point is simple (atleast the way i read it anyway) at some point in the past the OP HAS let their children watch the show yet this year they have not due to its content , i really cant see how this is turning into more that the actual OP itself tbh , you can agree or disagree with the OP it doesn't matter the point is pretty clear regardless
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I'll be honest and say I don't actually care about the OP's kids or anybody else's Each to their own I say but I responded to the OP because his point seemed to be that BB had changed over the years and now no longer had any episodes suitable for under 11s. My view is that it has not changed one bit. We had nudity, swearing and sexual references and exposure from series 1 on wards. It has always aired after the water shed because of this.
The OP can let his children watch whatever he wants but the idea of trying to suggest BB has got more adult and therefore possibly worse in some way is not only annoying but very wrong.
Also the idea that those explaining this to the OP are somehow stupid seems to be the very thing that is being critcised IE not comprehending what people are actually saying”
“I'll be honest and say I don't actually care about the OP's kids or anybody else's
Each to their own I say but I responded to the OP because his point seemed to be that BB had changed over the years and now no longer had any episodes suitable for under 11s. My view is that it has not changed one bit. We had nudity, swearing and sexual references and exposure from series 1 on wards. It has always aired after the water shed because of this.The OP can let his children watch whatever he wants but the idea of trying to suggest BB has got more adult and therefore possibly worse in some way is not only annoying but very wrong.
Also the idea that those explaining this to the OP are somehow stupid seems to be the very thing that is being critcised IE not comprehending what people are actually saying
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yes TT they can allow their children to watch whatever they choose and as pointed out from my POV i don't see any harm either way with what OP is doing, the point is as you say has BB this year been worse than previous? IDK i haven't watched them all but IMO i believe children under 11 will see/hear worse than bb in any year but i feel the OP may be judging more by whats being done moreso than said this year and the clear pack mentality racial issues etc from the get go not in isolated episodes.
Originally Posted by bigBro2011:
“To you maybe but obviously not the op.....maybe the point is simple (atleast the way i read it anyway) at some point in the past the OP HAS let their children watch the show yet this year they have not due to its content , i really cant see how this is turning into more that the actual OP itself tbh , you can agree or disagree with the OP it doesn't matter the point is pretty clear regardless”
“To you maybe but obviously not the op.....maybe the point is simple (atleast the way i read it anyway) at some point in the past the OP HAS let their children watch the show yet this year they have not due to its content , i really cant see how this is turning into more that the actual OP itself tbh , you can agree or disagree with the OP it doesn't matter the point is pretty clear regardless”
Well fair enough. The op is free to make what ever point he wants to make but he shouldn't expect others to cosign him and entertain his foolishness.
Originally Posted by cjay27:
“Given the content from the outset, there is no way children should be watching, not only because of the adult content but the swearing!
Any parent thinking this is ok worries me greatly.”
“Given the content from the outset, there is no way children should be watching, not only because of the adult content but the swearing!
Any parent thinking this is ok worries me greatly.”
I really do not give a monkeys' who watches it from 1 to 100 just stop moaning about how unsuitable it is ......It is what it is ....depending on what is means of course ¬!!!!!
Originally Posted by bigBro2011:
“yes TT they can allow their children to watch whatever they choose and as pointed out from my POV i don't see any harm either way with what OP is doing, the point is as you say has BB this year been worse than previous? IDK i haven't watched them all but IMO i believe children under 11 will see/hear worse than bb in any year but i feel the OP may be judging more by whats being done moreso than said this year and the clear pack mentality racial issues etc from the get go not in isolated episodes.”
“yes TT they can allow their children to watch whatever they choose and as pointed out from my POV i don't see any harm either way with what OP is doing, the point is as you say has BB this year been worse than previous? IDK i haven't watched them all but IMO i believe children under 11 will see/hear worse than bb in any year but i feel the OP may be judging more by whats being done moreso than said this year and the clear pack mentality racial issues etc from the get go not in isolated episodes.”
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
This what they actually said: I've stopped my kids watching this show
Ok ok I know its after the watershed. I know its an adults show now. It never used to be. I always thought it as a PG certificate. I would watch an episode before my kids then decide. But this series especially they have only watched the launch. They're both under 11 years. It just shows how much BB has changed. Sad.
The OP suggested the show never used to be an adult show
Most on here are pointing out that it has always been an adult show. See, we understood exactly what he meant
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
This what they actually said: I've stopped my kids watching this show
Ok ok I know its after the watershed. I know its an adults show now. It never used to be. I always thought it as a PG certificate. I would watch an episode before my kids then decide. But this series especially they have only watched the launch. They're both under 11 years. It just shows how much BB has changed. Sad.
The OP suggested the show never used to be an adult show Most on here are pointing out that it has always been an adult show. See, we understood exactly what he meant ”
“I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
This what they actually said: I've stopped my kids watching this show
Ok ok I know its after the watershed. I know its an adults show now. It never used to be. I always thought it as a PG certificate. I would watch an episode before my kids then decide. But this series especially they have only watched the launch. They're both under 11 years. It just shows how much BB has changed. Sad.
The OP suggested the show never used to be an adult show
Most on here are pointing out that it has always been an adult show. See, we understood exactly what he meant ”
In your opinion it seems, now you are going to say they were never shows the op deemed fine after vetting them? come on now re-read it HIS/HER opinion was there most certainly episodes just fine and not one single episode this series - the whole its never been a show suitable for children is missing the point , which is the show has gotten worse in their eyes , remember they are the ones vetting the content so the point it they believe its gotten worse regardless of the kids due to the controlled environment.
I'm 26 now I've watch Big Brother almost every season (probably missed 3 or 4 series'). So that means I would've been 11 or so when it first began(?). If I had a 10 year old child today, no way would I let them watch this.
Originally Posted by troyston:
“I'm 26 now I've watch Big Brother almost every season (probably missed 3 or 4 series'). So that means I would've been 11 or so when it first began(?). If I had a 10 year old child today, no way would I let them watch this.”
“I'm 26 now I've watch Big Brother almost every season (probably missed 3 or 4 series'). So that means I would've been 11 or so when it first began(?). If I had a 10 year old child today, no way would I let them watch this.”
When you think about, and ask people, most people seemed to have watched it from about 10+
Originally Posted by bigBro2011:
“In your opinion it seems, now you are going to say they were never shows the op deemed fine after vetting them? come on now re-read it HIS/HER opinion was there most certainly episodes just fine and not one single episode this series - the whole its never been a show suitable for children is missing the point , which is the show has gotten worse in their eyes , remember they are the ones vetting the content so the point it they believe its gotten worse regardless of the kids due to the controlled environment.”
“In your opinion it seems, now you are going to say they were never shows the op deemed fine after vetting them? come on now re-read it HIS/HER opinion was there most certainly episodes just fine and not one single episode this series - the whole its never been a show suitable for children is missing the point , which is the show has gotten worse in their eyes , remember they are the ones vetting the content so the point it they believe its gotten worse regardless of the kids due to the controlled environment.”
I don't know how many times I have to say this but here we go again: I don't care what the OP allows his kids to watch. All I know is that it is an adult show and always has been and that isn't a subjective view, it is an objective view due to it airing after the water shed.
The issue that he managed to find an episode suitable at some point is irrelevant, It still is an adult show so complaining that he cannot find an episode suitable this series is meaningless and irritating.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I don't know how many times I have to say this but here we go again: I don't care what the OP allows his kids to watch. All I know is that it is an adult show and always has been and that isn't a subjective view, it is an objective view due to it airing after the water shed.
The issue that he managed to find an episode suitable at some point is irrelevant, It still is an adult show so complaining that he cannot find an episode suitable this series is meaningless and irritating.”
“I don't know how many times I have to say this but here we go again: I don't care what the OP allows his kids to watch. All I know is that it is an adult show and always has been and that isn't a subjective view, it is an objective view due to it airing after the water shed.
The issue that he managed to find an episode suitable at some point is irrelevant, It still is an adult show so complaining that he cannot find an episode suitable this series is meaningless and irritating.”
BUT thats his/her point of view and what the op is really about, as they contorl what is seen or not its clear the op deems it worse than ever
A adult show , well thats assuming you are governed by something, somehow? there is no such thing ffs , your are right it is irritating you clearly miss underlying points that the op has made yet you believe others have.......i get you believe otherwise , its fine but the OP clearly isnt the only one who believes that 1) the show is worse this year 2) children should be able to watch bb from start~date (environment control)
Originally Posted by Super Frog:
“This thread is a wind up”
“This thread is a wind up”
I'm still wondering if it is, especially after the flounce off.
Originally Posted by Christ_DeBurg:
“It's a bit of a silly topic really. It's just like making a topic saying "I've stopped my pre-teen kids watching babestation. I know it's rated 18, but it seemed fine until they started getting naked. At that point I realised that this was not meant for Children and so they were banned from watching it!"”
“It's a bit of a silly topic really. It's just like making a topic saying "I've stopped my pre-teen kids watching babestation. I know it's rated 18, but it seemed fine until they started getting naked. At that point I realised that this was not meant for Children and so they were banned from watching it!"”
Brilliant. And you have an awesome username.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I don't know how many times I have to say this but here we go again: I don't care what the OP allows his kids to watch. All I know is that it is an adult show and always has been and that isn't a subjective view, it is an objective view due to it airing after the water shed.
The issue that he managed to find an episode suitable at some point is irrelevant, It still is an adult show so complaining that he cannot find an episode suitable this series is meaningless and irritating.”
“I don't know how many times I have to say this but here we go again: I don't care what the OP allows his kids to watch. All I know is that it is an adult show and always has been and that isn't a subjective view, it is an objective view due to it airing after the water shed.
The issue that he managed to find an episode suitable at some point is irrelevant, It still is an adult show so complaining that he cannot find an episode suitable this series is meaningless and irritating.”
I agree. It's never been PG which is what the OP said it once was. Even when I've caught the censored daytime versions, the whole thrust of the show has always been adult relationships, interactions, arguments, etc. But the evening shows have always had lots of swearing, nudity, sexual activity, and explosive arguments.
Fair enough if you don't mind your kids being exposed to that, but I can't see any sea change in its tone or content from last year to this year.
Originally Posted by daddynomates:
“I tell you what **** it. I can see why so many don't bother with this forum anymore. Its not about discussions. Its about arguments, having a go, having a dig, slagging off.
Its pathetic.
I'm off”
“I tell you what **** it. I can see why so many don't bother with this forum anymore. Its not about discussions. Its about arguments, having a go, having a dig, slagging off.
Its pathetic.
I'm off”
Bye
what discussion? you state your opinion, others comment and you resort to calling people pathetic, where's the arguement???
Originally Posted by johnny_dole:
“what discussion? you state your opinion, others comment and you resort to calling people pathetic, where's the arguement???”
“what discussion? you state your opinion, others comment and you resort to calling people pathetic, where's the arguement???
”
Flouncing's not pathetic though.
No siree
I started watching BB when I was 12. It was the 2005 series with Makosi, Kinga etc. Probably inappropriate for me to be watching but it hasn't done me any harm.
Originally Posted by moleymo:
“My jaw dropped when Katie price walked down the stairs F ing this and that and then shouted " hi mum hi kids!" Then went on to tell everyone how she caught her husband shagging her best friend”
“My jaw dropped when Katie price walked down the stairs F ing this and that and then shouted " hi mum hi kids!" Then went on to tell everyone how she caught her husband shagging her best friend”
That must have been a treat for her kids
but I suppose they are used to it by now. Did she actually go on to explain why she is still with a man who cheated on her with someone who was supposed to be her friend?
Originally Posted by haphash:
“That must have been a treat for her kids but I suppose they are used to it by now.
Did she actually go on to explain why she is still with a man who cheated on her with someone who was supposed to be her friend?”
“That must have been a treat for her kids
but I suppose they are used to it by now. Did she actually go on to explain why she is still with a man who cheated on her with someone who was supposed to be her friend?”
I sat there looking like this -------------------------->
There's something desperately awful about her constant 'need' to spill every single intimate detail about her life and she has no regard for how it affects other people in her life - particularly her kids
Interesting how the betrayal of a friend cut her so deep that she severed all ties, yet she can 'understand' and forgive the man who is married to her and shagged her friend whilst she was carrying his child.
Unbelievable.
Originally Posted by bigBro2011:
“i guess reading comprehension is over rated? a few certainly must think so.
The OP said he/she 'proofed' the shows BEFORE letting the kids watch , its not that hard to grasp is it?
i was the youngest of 4 boys and i was definitely under 10 yrs old when my brothers watched nightmare on elm street , of course i was also had access to adult material much younger than i should have but have 3 older brothers who were still classed as teenagers in the house that's was always going to be the case despite what people believe.
i hate it when people decide to judge the parenting of others without contextual process' to decide either way , i guess snap judgments are the norm in the cyber world but when you are discussing such a subject as parenting that will always be such a personal thing a little thought or at least understanding wouldn't go amiss”
“i guess reading comprehension is over rated? a few certainly must think so.
The OP said he/she 'proofed' the shows BEFORE letting the kids watch , its not that hard to grasp is it?
i was the youngest of 4 boys and i was definitely under 10 yrs old when my brothers watched nightmare on elm street , of course i was also had access to adult material much younger than i should have but have 3 older brothers who were still classed as teenagers in the house that's was always going to be the case despite what people believe.
i hate it when people decide to judge the parenting of others without contextual process' to decide either way , i guess snap judgments are the norm in the cyber world but when you are discussing such a subject as parenting that will always be such a personal thing a little thought or at least understanding wouldn't go amiss
”
Well said! Half of the commenters on this thread probably let there children play violent video games, let their children have access to the internet...then get all up in arms because someone said that the watched BB and THEN decided if they could watch it or not.
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