I have haven't watched the show since Friday so i'm basing this post on the threads on here that I have just read and feel the need to highlight two things.

There is no excuse for homophobia, racism or violence, No matter how annoying someone is - Perez or otherwise it is in no way justifying the use of these horrible mind-sets. The fact that there are people on here who seem to be suggesting or outright saying that someone's behaviour can validate them being abused in those ways is a little bit despicable.

Then think about my next point - Perez is annoying ok so you don't like that, but if you advocate for him to abused in not just those ways but actually hurt as well - WHAT DOES THAT MAKE YOU? I say far worse. Think about how ridiculous it is that you judge someone else for being annoying to strangers but yourself condone despicable violence towards a stranger.

Just a couple of thoughts.

If you are in a fight or a heated argument with someone and you call them a racial or homophobic slur then that makes you a bigot, simple as that!!!

Perez, Ken and Alexander have all shown themselves to be either racist or homophobic.

That house is riddled with homophobes IMO.

The F word would be offensive, but the fact Perez has used it in the past himself shows that he doesn't see it as offensive, once again just pulling the 'I'm scared for my safety!' Act that has already got 3 housemates removed/walked.

I don't condone Alexander's use of the F word. I find the word to be offensive. However him uttering that word after being baited and goaded for hours in no way makes him deserving of the label homophobe. Should he be called to task for using the word under any circumstances? Yes and both Michelle and BB did that. Provoking people doesn't mean one can then claim themselves an innocent victim.

Example?

I can't stand perez because he is an annoying t*at, nothing to do with whether he sticks his pork sword. It's sad when people equate perez with 'being gay' as if all gay people are rridiculously camp, it would be the same as assuming all black people stab each other.

If their only experience of a gay man is Perez then I can actually understand why!

But seriously, what a load of tosh - no one is homophobic in that house.

How so? I haven't seen anything happen that deserves that assertion.

It doesn't matter if you have been baited or goaded or even if someone spits in your face, if your mind jumps immediately to attacking his sexuality then you are homophobic. Perez is such a mess, there's a thousand things that Alexander could have insulted him about but that the fact he went for Perez's sexuality is very telling.

Perez being called a f***** and the rest blaming HIM for it says it all i'm afraid.

Do me a favour and never reply to any of my posts again.

I have no time for people who can 'understand' bullying and blatant homophobia.

I'll reply to any post I like mate, or are you now being homophobic to me????

Oh get over yourself.

What on earth makes you think that you and your posts are in any way memorable in a forum the size of this place?

You don't get to dictate who replies to your posts and if you want your interaction with a poster to cease then the onus is upon you to use the Ignore function.

Yawn...

I simply don't believe that's true. Bigotry just isn't that simplistic. Until I see a systematic behavior and pattern of dialogue I'm not going to label anyone with something that serious. In my view to do so negates all the progress minority groups have made.

If a black man used the N word to describe himself and just so happened to really annoy you - would you call him the N word too? I don't think you would and I certainly wouldn't. It can never be said to be somehow deserved.


I more or less agree with you - I wouldn't label a person as a homophobe for that but I would make sure that I made them aware that that word was a homophobic slur and leave It at that. If after that they continued to do so well that would speak for itself.

How do you feel about Perez calling Will-I-Am a 'faggot' ? Just wondering.

The house is not riddled with homophobes. Perez is absolutely disgusting, he's vicious, cruel and mean. If that's acceptable to your gay community I'm glad I'm not a member.

I happen to live in a very gay neighborhood and I've never seen any of them act in any way like Perez has to another human being. None of my gay friends would ever taunt another person, gay or straight. Michele was quite right, he's singlehandedly turning back gay rights.

OP Watch the show then I'll take your comments on board.

I would condemn anybody (including Perez) if they said that in my presence.

Obviously you wouldn't say anything though, so there's no point discussing it any further.

Who is this yourself you speak of?

You are seriously confusing behaviour and sexuality in a quite an absurd way.

Nobody has been violent towards Perez. That nonsense needs to stop. Perez wants you to believe that because it suits his victim agenda.

Perez persistently goaded Alexander until he got the reaction he was looking for. He harassed the man when he was trying to sleep and continued that harassment throughout the day in different ways. Yes, it was wrong what Alexander said but we all make mistakes and it was under severe provocation. We can all say things we regret in the heat of the moment.

There is a reason why the majority of the house detest Perez. He is a repulsive and vile specimen who does not know how to conduct himself around others. He takes great pleasure in winding people up to the point when they react and then he can play the victim and pretend he fears for his safety.

Interesting assumption you make about me, totally wrong, but there you go.
Thanks for answering.

You do realise forum are for discussion. You don't like hearing opinions that don't agree with yours you're in the wrong place

What are you all going on about "the F word"? Faggot is OUR word stolen by Americans to be a derogatory term for gay folk. Faggots and peas is my regional dish for one. It has had a fair few meanings over the centuries including a bundle of fire wood. It has also been used as a term of endearment in The Black Country. My gran used to call me "a crafty little faggot" (Turned out to be gay but pretty sure thats irrelevant ) Some of my older work mates use it.

OK, an American said it to a gay man which is offensive and wrong but we do not have to censor ourselves from a perfectly fine and harmless English word. Get a grip!