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Old 18-01-2015, 15:59
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It doesn't matter if you have been baited or goaded or even if someone spits in your face, if your mind jumps immediately to attacking his sexuality then you are homophobic. Perez is such a mess, there's a thousand things that Alexander could have insulted him about but that the fact he went for Perez's sexuality is very telling.
No it isn't. Perez used his sexuality to bait Alexander. Blowing kisses? Waggling his tongue?
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:00
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I'll reply to any post I like mate, or are you now being homophobic to me????
. Demand he doesn't reply or even read any more of your posts
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:03
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. Demand he doesn't reply or even read any more of your posts
It's like someone told me earlier today to get a life....who was also on this very forum, writing comments like me...some people!!!
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:05
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I'd love to see some of the oh so righteous folks on here subjected to lie detector tests, while being questioned on their own conduct throughout their squeaky clean lives.

Some of the preaching makes me want to puke, seriously.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:06
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I'll reply to any post I like mate, or are you now being homophobic to me????
. Demand he doesn't reply or even read any more of your posts
Would following someone round the forum, replying ad nauseam to their posts and threatening to bang saucepans above their heads be deemed against T&Cs? Would the perpetrator get an official warning, I wonder...
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:10
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I'd love to see some of the oh so righteous folks on here subjected to lie detector tests, while being questioned on their own conduct throughout their squeaky clean lives.

Some of the preaching makes me want to puke, seriously.
I would take a bet that the majority of people on here, at one time or another have used language that was completely inappropriate.

I agree with you, this many people that are whiter than white - never called a name out in a playground, a pub, a club.....nah!
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:10
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I simply don't believe that's true. Bigotry just isn't that simplistic. Until I see a systematic behavior and pattern of dialogue I'm not going to label anyone with something that serious. In my view to do so negates all the progress minority groups have made.
I have to respectfully disagree with you. That's the insidious issue with the privileged people's perception of racism, homophobia, sexism and xenophobia. People like to think that racism and other forms of hate only exists in big grand incidents or in repeated attacks and they tend to negate and annoyingly trivialise the racist or hateful micro aggressions.

Your view point tends to protect people with racist,homophobic and xenophobic undertones in their mentality and character as they unlikely to commit the more serious hateful attacks that people like you would judge them on.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:11
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You do realise forum are for discussion. You don't like hearing opinions that don't agree with yours you're in the wrong place
Okay noob.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:13
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No it isn't. Perez used his sexuality to bait Alexander. Blowing kisses? Waggling his tongue?
It matters not.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:15
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Haven't quite got the hang of this 'debating' thing, have you?
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:16
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Haven't quite got the hang of this 'debating' thing, have you?
That made me chuckle.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:20
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Would following someone round the forum, replying ad nauseam to their posts and threatening to bang saucepans above their heads be deemed against T&Cs? Would the perpetrator get an official warning, I wonder...
Now I'm not sure if we're talking DS or BB?
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:21
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So now we're scared to say/type the word faggot now even when its not in the context of name calling?
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:22
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WELL, now IM officially offended.

I want my own thread dedicated to this
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:28
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Haven't quite got the hang of this 'debating' thing, have you?
Oooooooooh that made me chuckle! What does noob mean anyway or is it just a well loved typing error?
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:29
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Oooooooooh that made me chuckle! What does noob mean anyway or is it just a well loved typing error?
Newbie, to the forum. I'm devastated
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:29
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If a black man used the N word to describe himself and just so happened to really annoy you - would you call him the N word too? I don't think you would and I certainly wouldn't. It can never be said to be somehow deserved.
Free speech. Anyone would think the word was 'Voldemort' Both of the said words have changed meanings a lot. To be honest, yes? If it is a good friend that jokes about it, then yes absolutely. Like Ken and Frank Bruno. That was a joke, between them, that BB took the wrong way. In no circumstance should these words be used as slurs, but it really depends on the context that it is featured. People are too sensitive. One word, does not make someone a homophobe or a racist. Same as having one argument with someone vulnerable looking someone labels you as a bully. It's all about the context.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:31
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Perez being called a f***** and the rest blaming HIM for it says it all i'm afraid.

Do me a favour and never reply to any of my posts again.

I have no time for people who can 'understand' bullying and blatant homophobia.
Come again? A foolish comment in the heat of the moment does not make for a homophobic.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:31
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n word. heh.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:34
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I can't stand perez because he is an annoying t*at, nothing to do with whether he sticks his pork sword. It's sad when people equate perez with 'being gay' as if all gay people are rridiculously camp, it would be the same as assuming all black people stab each other.
Deary me I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this post. I do know you have probably offended Vegetarians
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:36
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45 years old....wow.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:38
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Deary me I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this post. I do know you have probably offended Vegetarians
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:38
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The F word would be offensive, but the fact Perez has used it in the past himself shows that he doesn't see it as offensive, once again just pulling the 'I'm scared for my safety!' Act that has already got 3 housemates removed/walked.
Someone threatening violence, however subtle, is a valid reason to feel afraid for your safety. Alexander did just that to Perez.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:38
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I have to respectfully disagree with you. That's the insidious issue with the privileged people's perception of racism, homophobia, sexism and xenophobia. People like to think that racism and other forms of hate only exists in big grand incidents or in repeated attacks and they tend to negate and annoyingly trivialise the racist or hateful micro aggressions.

Your view point tends to protect people with racist,homophobic and xenophobic undertones in their mentality and character as they unlikely to commit the more serious hateful attacks that people like you would judge them on.
I take your point and in some respects agree with it. I was appalled when the US SCOTUS effectively declared racism was over. I'm disgusted that women's wages are still not on par with men's. I have actively supported LGBT rights and marriage equality. However my resume is meaningless. I've seen soft or small incidents of racism in my experience, professionally and personally. My point is context is always important and knee jerk reactions can cause more damage. There is a wonderful documentary called "For The Bible Tells Me So", it's a series of touching real life stories about the challenges of families coming to terms with changing their views.
Finally I get annoyed when un-warranted labels are applied to some players on this show not out a sense firmly held beliefs but instead as part of the agenda to demonize one to elevate another and create a victim status for them. I don't the majority do that but it is a particularly seedy and nefarious tactic.
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Old 18-01-2015, 16:39
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Someone threatening violence, however subtle, is a valid reason to feel afraid for your safety. Alexander did just that to Perez.
What did he say?
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