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Someone threatening violence, however subtle, is a valid reason to feel afraid for your safety. Alexander did just that to Perez.
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If their only experience of a gay man is Perez then I can actually understand why!
But seriously, what a load of tosh - no one is homophobic in that house. If the only women you had met was ellen DeGeneres would you think I was funny. If the only women you had met was the Virgin Mary would you think I was a virgin. Your theory is not working for me. |
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What did he say?
If it were me I would have wrapped that bloody rabbit around his head and loved every minute of it. |
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Come again? A foolish comment in the heat of the moment does not make for a homophobic.
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In the same way that Katie threatened him with a frying pan? Please. Dramarama.
You think that's a threat of violence....seriously? |
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What, crashing 2 pans loudly over his head???
You think that's a threat of violence....seriously? No It's sarcasm!
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He said if Perez was in the states right now he knew what would happen - so no direct personal threat was made by Alexander.
If it were me I would have wrapped that bloody rabbit around his head and loved every minute of it. |
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I have one for you. TRUTH.
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Sounds similar to Perez, "if I were you Id fear for my safety when I leave this house" comment.
I think what he was trying to say was that if he acted on a TV show in the states like he had he knew what would happen - that's the way I took it anyway. |
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You are seriously confusing behaviour and sexuality in a quite an absurd way.
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So Alexander was just fooling around when he said that?
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If you are in a fight or a heated argument with someone and you call them a racial or homophobic slur then that makes you a bigot, simple as that!!!
Perez, Ken and Alexander have all shown themselves to be either racist or homophobic. Using a racist word does not make you a racist, unfortunately most people have been brainwashed into believing it does. |
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No. He was responding to taunts by a raving lunatic, and rightfully so. One comment does NOT put someone under a label. if he consistently had a problem with Perez, and Kavana, then you could call him a homophobe. Stop over reacting and educate yourself.
It's quite telling that Alexander and Kav spend a huge amount of time together hardly the actions of a homophobic man. |
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I didn't get the impression that Alexander was a homophobe. Obviously he didn't like Perez but he seemed to get on well with Kavana. This doesn't suggest that he is anti gay.
Maybe he shouldn't have used the f word but it seemed to me that he just lashed out in frustration more than it being some sort of homophobic attack. |
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Yeah, we've been having this debate in another thread.
As I said in that topic, it's not right for people to single out sexuality to attack someone over. By all means criticise Perez for his actions (I think he's a stupid idiot too) but the criticisms should be kept to his actions alone. |
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Kind of yes.
I think what he was trying to say was that if he acted on a TV show in the states like he had he knew what would happen - that's the way I took it anyway. If only Ken had "feared for his safety" Perez could of been ousted with him.
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No. He was responding to taunts by a raving lunatic, and rightfully so. One comment does NOT put someone under a label. if he consistently had a problem with Perez, and Kavana, then you could call him a homophobe. Stop over reacting and educate yourself.
So how many comments does it take then? I'm looking for a specific number. Don't reply with anything else, just give me the number. Thanks. |
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No. He was responding to taunts by a raving lunatic, and rightfully so. One comment does NOT put someone under a label. if he consistently had a problem with Perez, and Kavana, then you could call him a homophobe. Stop over reacting and educate yourself.
I am torn - I do not know if Alexander is homophobic or not, his language WAS. You could say if he was not homophobic then why start a sentence with that choice of word. Angry teased whatever there are other words. You can label me one of the PC brigade if you like but I know with certainty I would never say the word. You have to accept at some level if he chooses to say the word in a derogatory manner this is a slur on (Perez's) sexuality and this as to be in some part how he thinks.
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What did he say?
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'One comment does NOT put someone under a label'
So how many comments does it take then? I'm looking for a specific number. Don't reply with anything else, just give me the number. Thanks. |
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I take your point completely. However
I am torn - I do not know if Alexander is homophobic or not, his language WAS. You could say if he was not homophobic then why start a sentence with that choice of word. Angry teased whatever there are other words. You can label me one of the PC brigade if you like but I know with certainty I would never say the word. You have to accept at some level if he chooses to say the word in a derogatory manner this is a slur on (Perez's) sexuality and this as to be in some part how he thinks.But Perez's biggest problem is that he uses the word fagot, doesn't find it offensive and has openly called celebrities it on video. If Alexander (and I do mean if) he was aware of Perez's love for the word then throwing it back at him makes perfect sense. But I do not, for a second, believe Alexander is a homophobic man and he's friendship with Kav and Michelle would certainly back that up. |
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That house is riddled with homophobes IMO.
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Wow, talk about coming across like an absolute d!ck.
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This is completely wrong.
Using a racist word does not make you a racist, unfortunately most people have been brainwashed into believing it does. |
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No It's sarcasm!
I am torn - I do not know if Alexander is homophobic or not, his language WAS. You could say if he was not homophobic then why start a sentence with that choice of word. Angry teased whatever there are other words. You can label me one of the PC brigade if you like but I know with certainty I would never say the word. You have to accept at some level if he chooses to say the word in a derogatory manner this is a slur on (Perez's) sexuality and this as to be in some part how he thinks.