^^ This. Very well put..

Just one but some people are desperate to live in denial about their racist, homophobic tendencies.

Sorry guys but I can't answer any other posts until EuroFoxi gives me a number.

Awww I thought this thread was going to be somewhere we could list our excuses or racism, sexism and homophobia I've got a really good one too.

So what would call a gay man that makes a homophobic comment, or a black or Asian than makes a racist one against their own race?

Yes a few people are now mentioning he seemed to be picking particularly on Alexander - I cannot remember now was this F word before Perez knew Alex had been saved or after. Maybe he thought he was a threat to his crown as if
Your point BIB is a valid one on some level.

Thank god!

Self hating. If they're a self hating black person, we usually call them Toms.

It was screened last night but recorded the day of the eviction, so before Chloe was evicted.

Why not? I can do loads of different things at once. Earlier I was cooking my dinner, whilst watching QI on my ipad AND smoking a cigarette.

"offensive" =/= words
"offensive" = context

...that's if "offensive" is even a useful concept, or whether it is in fact counter-productive.

IMO if someone behaves unpleasantly, they should face social consequences (eg if it's particularly bad, everyone else telling them they're an unpleasant piece of faecal matter and refusing to speak to them until they've showed some contrition) but the whole issue is way too fraught with subjectivity for the application of written rules to do anything other than perpetuate ignorance - because it discourages people from *thinking* and lets them just reflexively react *without thinking*.

And stuff.

I've never heard of that before, which goes to show that there are so many names for so many things nowadays who knows what's acceptable and what isn't.

In the 80's calling someone black was an offense, nowadays it's the norm. Calling a man gay was once a terrible thing, then accepted. Queer is another one, which is probably my favourite for people calling me...so different words, different rules.

Who decides if someone is self hating? What exactly defines self hating? I've heard President Obama referred to that. I find that term as offensive as some of the others brought up. I fail to see how it contributes in a positive way.

You must be female, right

Sexist!

No actually, but I'm not hugely male either to be honest.

I know

I actually don't believe that only women can multi task. A little pun on an ism thread

Ha ha, it's all good and as a man I took it in the way it was meant of course!

It'll be a sad day when we can't have a bit of a laugh and a joke about stuff like this! I for one, chuckled at your post.

It's a real issue within certain communities . If you support or endorse the hate, oppression degradation or humiliation of people who are of the same race, gender or sexuality as you then you are self hating.

Please enlighten me as to why you feel sooo offended by that term and you feel that it is on the same level as the N word or the F word?

No offense but a lot of people who benefit from societal privilege tend to have faux outrage over issues that they don't really understand or have a valid experience of.

Thanks. I know, we need not to be too wary of everything that we can't have a giggle.

He could have called Perez out as a nasty, vindictive, gobshite. Absolutely no reason to choose a homophobic slur. He seemed a pleasant enough fellow but it isn't ok to throw the f word at people. And no Perez shouldn't have called anyone else it but it still doesn't make it ok for Alexander to use it. We shouldn't be trying to justify the use of homophobic and racist terms for any reason. Plenty of other insults to choose from if you are annoyed at someone.

Unfortunately for you, I have better things to do sometimes than sit around listing 1,2,3's to an uneducated loon. Repetitive actions to ALL members of a certain social group puts you under a label. If he was a homophobe, he would have made repeated comments to Perez, and also Kav. I'm not going to repeat myself any further.

Well I don't know what show you're watching, but the one I'm watching had much more of Katie Hopkins goading Perez than of Perez goading anyone, including Alexander. You guys seem to be filling in "hours and hours" of something you're not seeing.

And sorry, but Katie did threaten violence. She may not have meant it that way, and had to go back and expound on what she meant ... but she did say (essentially) she was going to hit him over the head with a pan. And knocking the head off the rabbit (however she did it) has pretty violent overtones.

No, she really didn't, the episode you watched must be the one screened on planet ming mong.