Agreed I have to sit back and take offensive phrases all the time because I am in a group still not worthy of consideration. So I am sure these heroes have said "men in white coats" or called someone "unstable" , "mental " "crazy" when they have no idea of their status or diagnosis. I could go on but then I am oversensitive aren't ?? Just like gay people were 20 odd years ago etc.

I understand the concept of those who work against the best interests of their group. But I further understand to think all groups are subject to homogeneity groupthink is it's own form of bias.
I asked who gets the definition of self hating in any group? I still don't understand how you justify the use of Uncle Tom and it what instances you think it's acceptable or in anyway constructive. If an African American calls Colm Powell, President Obama, MLK, Condoleeza Rice, Oprah or any other prominent person of colour an Uncle Tom do they get a pass?

Well PM me the number when you come up with one.

Need to make sure I haven't used all my credits up!

I responded to your number thing despite it being a disingenuous straw man. Again I ask are you sure every single word you have uttered in your entire life hasn't caused offense to anyone?
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Replying to me I think, but I dare not PM him/her as I'm worried the number may cause his brain to explode. Poor lamb only learnt 123's today. Anything above 5 and that could be the end.

Your feeble attempts to cover for EuroFoxi have been noted.

I'm not covering for anyone. However if your response is simply a rude deflection to cover for your inability to answer with logic and facts than so be it. Would you like some time alone with Mr Buns now?

Find this so funny I joined DS for moments like this, oh God.

I thought i answered that question, anyone who has promotes a belief or participates in behaviour that degrades or further oppresses their own. Unfortunately that can manifest in a number of different ways and it does. Sadly too many blacks are unaware or in denial about their own self loathing and how much self hate has been entrenched into the community and it's hurting us as a whole. In order to tackle this behaviour we first have to identify it and the offenders. If AA genuinely feels that those prominent people are self hating then they are feel to call it out. Most black people see the term 'Uncle Tom' as an insult (when used by a black person) rather than a racial slur.


If you're interested, here's one of the ways that self loathing is affecting our community

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthr...dark-amp-quot?

What was the question again?

Isn't it hilarious when the righteous resort to name calling when they are unable to respond to facts and logic. The nuance of context is simply too much for some.

Yeah i've noticed this as well, especially on here. Its funny how it's normally the straight people telling gay people what constitutes as homophobia and what they should and shouldn't be offended at

Now now, small words.

Privileged Supremacy at it's finest.

So it's a privilege to not be gay, to be straight?

All you've done is ask a question that doesn't have anything to do with anything.

How is that facts and logic?

As for the accusation of name calling, i do believe that EuroFoxi is the only person to have clearly lost her temper in this thread.

Yeah, you showed me though!

Not always. Some think no one but them has a right to decide what's offensive, cant get their heads round other views.

Don't began idiot, people like you make me sick, you don't know the meaning of the word.

I'm finding it most amusing, temper thoroughly intact!

Well said.

It seems you're not aware of definition of 'societal privilege'

Be sick then

the words of Michelle Visage, who has been an ACTIVE promoter of equality and fairness for years in the US of A, and is someone who can REALLY speak about the kind of attitudes and behaviour when it comes to those issues.

She was livid with hatred for the kind of attitude Perez was displaying and she was able to voice her anger in a very clear way: his actions were setting the LGBTQ* movement 50 years back. So, there's the criticism to Perez which I think makes a lot of sense and isn't personal.

Alexander's word usage was, IMHO, wrong, but I think that:

a. it was a missed opportunity to clarify people about word usage, without all this "tribunal of political correctedness" acting. Maybe there could be some sort of task, or speech, or whatever, which would explain why is it ok for perez do use the word, and not alexander.

b. the sooner perez is up for eviction, the better.

When in doubt turn to Wikipedia. But what I meant was, hence the question mark, why is it? Compared to being straight etc.

Well I'm a black person and,I think you are talking rubbish, generic words never hurt me unless they are aimed at me with vitriol and hatred. Personal insults and intimidation as Perez has been doing would hurt me much more.