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Old 19-01-2015, 01:13
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alex was already annoyed by him, he just needed an excuse to verbally attack perez.
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:16
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Just a thought but maybe it was because Perez wasn't well due to the really bad cough he'd had earlier so Alex didn't want to catch any germs!
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:33
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Alex has been gobbing up phlem and so I doubt the issue was to do with Perez's cough. It seemed completely irrational and I kept wondering if I had missed something? Alex's reaction was OTT and if he chose to go over it then so be it.

Perez has bugged the hell out of me since he walked into the house, tonight I felt a little bit sorry for him.
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:42
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Has the "breathing" incident been shown on the show?

I haven't seen the Sunday show yet.
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:44
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It was an extremely childish thing to say but then Perez was taunting him the day before so tit for tat I guess.

The funniest thing was how Michelle was backing up the statement with seriousness in her conversation with Alicia.
I know right? Mob mentality right there. All of them trying to convince Alicia that he was indeed breathing over the food.

Shockingly absurd group behaviour.

P.S Do these people know they're being watched?
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:46
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I wouldn't want the freak breathing on my food either, in fact, i wouldn't want to even be in the same room as the waste of space scumbag.
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:51
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I wouldn't want the freak breathing on my food either, in fact, i wouldn't want to even be in the same room as the waste of space scumbag.
It's still not a rational or fair reaction. Just one based on loathing. To try and justify it as the other housemates did just shows group mentality bullying
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:51
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Alex has been gobbing up phlem and so I doubt the issue was to do with Perez's cough. It seemed completely irrational and I kept wondering if I had missed something? Alex's reaction was OTT and if he chose to go over it then so be it.

Perez has bugged the hell out of me since he walked into the house, tonight I felt a little bit sorry for him.
I was actually joking about the cough as Perez was only doing it to annoy Alexander.

As some people are jumping on the bandwagon and saying that Alexander only had an issue with Perez because he was gay (even though he is more than comfortable with Kav and even called him babe today), why is no one saying that Perez only had an issue with Alexander because he was black!
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:52
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It's still not a rational or fair reaction. Just one based on loathing. To try and justify it as the other housemates did just shows group mentality bullying
He deserved to be bullied. He deserves every little thing he's getting in that house and more. I'm loving that he's totally ruined what little image he had left.

This is a guy who got off on tormenting young girl for YEARS, and made millions doing it.

Karma is a bitch, Perez.
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:55
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I know right? Mob mentality right there. All of them trying to convince Alicia that he was indeed breathing over the food.

Shockingly absurd group behaviour.

P.S Do these people know they're being watched?
What I've noticed in this series is that the housemates don't REALLY want things to calm down and everything to be peaceful. They thrive on this drama shit, and it's not the first occasion where something that happened a day or two ago is dragged up again because some of them adore having a go at other housemates if they can find the slightest excuse.
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:58
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He deserved to be bullied. He deserves every little thing he's getting in that house and more. I'm loving that he's totally ruined what little image he had left.

This is a guy who got off on tormenting young girl for YEARS, and made millions doing it.

Karma is a bitch, Perez.
Well going by your definition of Karma, whoever is doing any bullying right now will get their Karma.

You can't justify bullying by saying that somebody deserves it. That's the same as saying bullying is fine, because every bully will think that they've got good reason to bully somebody.
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Old 19-01-2015, 01:59
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What I've noticed in this series is that the housemates don't REALLY want things to calm down and everything to be peaceful. They thrive on this drama shit, and it's not the first occasion where something that happened a day or two ago is dragged up again because some of them adore having a go at other housemates if they can find the slightest excuse.
It's a pretty toxic mix. At this rate Cheggars will be back on the booze before it ends
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Old 19-01-2015, 02:07
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I was actually joking about the cough as Perez was only doing it to annoy Alexander.

As some people are jumping on the bandwagon and saying that Alexander only had an issue with Perez because he was gay (even though he is more than comfortable with Kav and even called him babe today), why is no one saying that Perez only had an issue with Alexander because he was black!
Because Perez hasn't used his race to insult Alex whereas Alex has used Perez's sexuality to insult him.
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Old 19-01-2015, 02:11
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I took it as homophobia too. This "bird flu" for example...
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Old 19-01-2015, 02:13
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It was an extremely childish thing to say but then Perez was taunting him the day before so tit for tat I guess.

The funniest thing was how Michelle was backing up the statement with seriousness in her conversation with Alicia.
That's why I laughed - Alicia in her response was more rational and sensible in conversation with Michelle. Then they say Alicia's dim. Her IQ may not be Mensa level but she certainly beats them hands down with her EQ.
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Old 19-01-2015, 02:24
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Alexander meant he didn't want to eat something that been infected with Perez's gayness. I think it was homophobia that tipped him over the edge. As soon as Perez put on a dress, Alex was annoyed.
This actually occurred to me too

I got the very uncomfortable feeling that Alex was refusing to eat food that 'the ass faggot' had breathed on

*shivers*

I'm really glad he's gone
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:28
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This actually occurred to me too

I got the very uncomfortable feeling that Alex was refusing to eat food that 'the ass faggot' had breathed on

*shivers*

I'm really glad he's gone
I agree with you.

here is a copy/paste of EnricoIV's excellent transcription of the dialogue and some insightful comments that was posted on a different thread:

Okay. I can't believe I just did this, but this is the text of Alexander's rant over the dinner:

[Nadia, Perez, Cami and Alicia are all standing around the cooktop. Katie P. and Alex are at the table.]
KP: Been a good day?
A: Nah, it's a shitty day. But I'm getting through.
KP: Why? Not shit again.
A: Nah, it's not shit again.
KP: Okay. I rest my case.
A: But I won't be eating any of that shit over there because I don't want Perez breathing all over my food and shit like that. I definitely certainly don't want any of his bird flu.
N: Come on, let's not. Let's not. Let's not argue. Come on.
A: Nadia, you're not the peace keeper for me. You keep your own peace.
N: I won't say anything.
A: Okay. You do your own thing.
N: Yeay, you're right. You're right. I shouldn't.
A: You shouldn't.
A: I don't want him breathing over my food. I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that so I'm not going to eat it.
C: [?]. You don't want him breathing on your food?
A: Yeah, I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that. What about that you don't understand.
[Alexander starts pacing, and breathing audibly.]
A: So you guys enjoy. Take your chances where you may.
[Perez leaves the kitchen area and goes towards the diary room stairs.]
A: Get in your ass so [?]. I will get in your ass so [?].
[Alexander starts dancing in Rocky fashion with his arms raised.]
A: What. What. [?] Bam. Boom.
[He turns toward where Perez went (though he's not seen on screen)]
A: Get some son. [grabbing his crotch] You want some son? Get some.
[Kav enters from the garden.]
A: Hey baby.
K: Hey.
[Alexander goes into the garden.]
A: F*** you. F*** you. F*** you.
[Kav returns to the garden.]
K: What's going on man?
A: Nothing. Perez.
K. F***, man.
A: F*** that bitch.
A: Don't want him breathing on my f***king food. Simple as that. Ain't no secret how I feel about him. I don't want to eat food with him breathing on my food. Simple as that. Is there anything derogatory or wrong with that? I don't want it.
A: Since Katie came in the house he's pretending like now all of a sudden he's the nicest guy. I'm so. Why couldn't you let us have that Perez all the time. Why did you have to do what you did.

There was more of him going on to Kav in the garden afterwards.

Really when I slowed it down and analyzed it all, It is a bit disturbing. Nothing was really inciting violence, but a lot of what he was going on about had sexual overtones. And all vaguely homophobic, in my opinion. I guess we can only be thankful that he said Bird flu and not AIDS ... because I wouldn't be at all surprised if that wasn't what he was thinking. Because the discussion afterwards with Kav, he's defending himself and saying nothing he said was derogatory. So he was thinking about it.

Or maybe I'm overthinking.
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:35
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Of course not. They're just making up stuff to try and tarnish his reputation further (as if they need to).

Before he walked even Alex said Perez had been much better today.
I think that was part of what had him so angry. That Perez wasn't doing something that he could hate on him for. It's hard to hold on to that righteous indignation without any ammunition.
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:38
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He deserved to be bullied. He deserves every little thing he's getting in that house and more. I'm loving that he's totally ruined what little image he had left.

This is a guy who got off on tormenting young girl for YEARS, and made millions doing it.

Karma is a bitch, Perez.
Oh, which one of your idols did he have the temerity to mock?
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:55
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I think that was part of what had him so angry. That Perez wasn't doing something that he could hate on him for. It's hard to hold on to that righteous indignation without any ammunition.
Quite right

... and thank you for the transcript of the entire ( unedifying ) episode Enrico, much appreciated . Vicky was kind enough to copy and paste your efforts onto other threads where it has been most helpful
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Old 19-01-2015, 04:06
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I wouldn't want the freak breathing on my food either, in fact, i wouldn't want to even be in the same room as the waste of space scumbag.
Do you think you're taking it just a little bit too seriously?
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Old 19-01-2015, 04:17
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Oh, which one of your idols did he have the temerity to mock?
Nice try, but as a gay man i find anyone who gets off on publicly outing other gay men still in the closet repulsive.

Do you think you're taking it just a little bit too seriously?
Nah, it's all relative isn't it. I've despised the scumbag for years
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Old 19-01-2015, 04:28
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It seemed as though Alex was spoiling for a fight with Perez and he was desperate for Perez to react to what he was saying, when he didn't I think that wound him up even more. Perez will push people's buttons until they break and he broke Alexander, that's why he was so happy at the end of the show, because in his mind he is winning.
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Old 19-01-2015, 05:28
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Or maybe I'm overthinking.
Um yes. Yes you are. Massively.
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Old 19-01-2015, 05:40
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They will be saying Perez has nits on tomorrows show.
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