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Nadia is not on the wrong horse.
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riverside 57
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“What don't people understand about that? ”

It's not that we don't understand anything about it, but a lot of us can see that Nadia believes that Katie Hopkins is the devil incarnate and that the public couldn't possibly see her as anything else, even against Perez. I think that's it, simply. Nadia just wants to be seen as the "good person" and in her tunnel visioned view of it all, that is not possible to achieve if she is seen to agree with anything that Katie Hopkins says, does or thinks.
Rhumbatugger
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“It's not that we don't understand anything about it, but a lot of us can see that Nadia believes that Katie Hopkins is the devil incarnate and that the public couldn't possibly see her as anything else, even against Perez. I think that's it, simply. Nadia just wants to be seen as the "good person" and in her tunnel visioned view of it all, that is not possible to achieve if she is seen to agree with anything that Katie Hopkins says, does or thinks.”

Mmm, I tend to agree.

Mind Hopkins is easy to loathe at the moment. She needs to back off.
anne_666
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“It's not that we don't understand anything about it, but a lot of us can see that Nadia believes that Katie Hopkins is the devil incarnate and that the public couldn't possibly see her as anything else, even against Perez. I think that's it, simply. Nadia just wants to be seen as the "good person" and in her tunnel visioned view of it all, that is not possible to achieve if she is seen to agree with anything that Katie Hopkins says, does or thinks.”

What that she knows Hopkins is playing this true to form and she should submit to her immature dominance over the majority who she's silenced and her need for a cat fight? She tells the odious Perez exactly what she thinks of him and she's the only one in there who can handle him.
riverside 57
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Mmm, I tend to agree.

Mind Hopkins is easy to loathe at the moment. She needs to back off.”

I agree with you, she was going too far in tonight's show, if she wants to remain credible she needs to pipe down a bit. She has done well in there so far, I don't despise her half as much as I did before she entered the house, and at times have found myself quite amused by her rantings and actually agreeing with her opinions if not the manner in which she conveys them. She is actually appearing human, and I really hope she doesn't lose it now with goading Perez the Pillock too much
Joni M
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“She CAN'T go back on it, far too obvious.

And her object isn't to be 'pro Perez' but 'pro underdog' and 'wonderful kind person'.

The problem she can't see is that she IS SUPPORTING Perez, who is extremely unpleasant to other housemates that she doesn't support, and it makes her look fake or stupid.”

Do you think she is though Rhumba? I think she's just trying to have a laugh and that is hard to find in that house.

The problem is, there are NO jokers cos they've all had the life zapped out of them.... it's like a bloody morgue in there.
Cheggars should be the most popular guy in there by his easy attitude, but he's hardly Mr Popular, maybe it's one of those times that you cling to what you can as there ain't owt good around the corner.
Joni M
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“It's not that we don't understand anything about it, but a lot of us can see that Nadia believes that Katie Hopkins is the devil incarnate and that the public couldn't possibly see her as anything else, even against Perez. I think that's it, simply. Nadia just wants to be seen as the "good person" and in her tunnel visioned view of it all, that is not possible to achieve if she is seen to agree with anything that Katie Hopkins says, does or thinks.”

That's possibly how I think too. I can't be objective about Hopkins, that's where I'm going wrong on the forum
Rhumbatugger
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Joni M:
“Do you think she is though Rhumba? I think she's just trying to have a laugh and that is hard to find in that house.

The problem is, there are NO jokers cos they've all had the life zapped out of them.... it's like a bloody morgue in there.
Cheggars should be the most popular guy in there by his easy attitude, but he's hardly Mr Popular, maybe it's one of those times that you cling to what you can as there ain't owt good around the corner.”

Yes she is, as far as I can see, I haven't been watching long though.

Why doesn't she hang around with Cheggers? Why doesn't she make an effort with the men?

I'm not convinced by Nadia at all at the moment.
riverside 57
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Joni M:
“That's possibly how I think too. I can't be objective about Hopkins, that's where I'm going wrong on the forum ”



The best way is to stay as objective about them all as is humanly possible, but I am finding it impossible with Perez Hilton. I knew very little about him before, but I positively cannot abide him now, and I actually feel very sorry for his poor little kid! What a role model
Joni M
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Yes she is, as far as I can see, I haven't been watching long though.

Why doesn't she hang around with Cheggers? Why doesn't she make an effort with the men?

I'm not convinced by Nadia at all at the moment.”

I have to admit, I don't know either. That would be the most obvious thing, I actually put that into my post and erased it as couldn't make head nor tail of why she doesn't.

There's so much drama though and we only get about 38 mins of footage per night we see so very little.
Darcyprincess
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“I am sure she doesn't think she is alone - like always, she thinks she is in the right and the others are wrong. She only has Perez, Alicia and Patsy with her and Patsy nominated her ROFL”

I think that you and many others have missed the point WHY Patsy nominated Nadia!!!! Because she can see how miserable it is making Nadia, being in a house with such nasty people and hearing Nadia say that she was going to walk out! She thinks she is doing Nadia a big favour, so she can go back to her family! Nadia is not in the house to win but for the money for her extension!!!! I don't think Nadia thinks she is right but dislikes bullying and will not follow the sheep. Nadia is a kind, decent person, if nothing else! Hopkins is the schoolgirl bully and really pathetic. Like I have said,in another thread I am just waiting for the Pricey to show Hopkins up for the nasty, outspoken bully she really is and then we will really see the sparks fly!
Rhumbatugger
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I think that you and many others have missed the point WHY Patsy nominated Nadia!!!! Because she can see how miserable it is making Nadia, being in a house with such nasty people and hearing Nadia say that she was going to walk out! She thinks she is doing Nadia a big favour, so she can go back to her family! Nadia is not in the house to win but for the money for her extension!!!! I don't think Nadia thinks she is right but dislikes bullying and will not follow the sheep. Nadia is a kind, decent person, if nothing else! Hopkins is the schoolgirl bully and really pathetic. Like I have said,in another thread I am just waiting for the Pricey to show Hopkins up for the nasty, outspoken bully she really is and then we will really see the sparks fly!”

Then Nadia is a fool. Perez COURTS all this, this is what he wants, all she's doing is enabling him and looking either a fool or after some medal for being so 'kind'.

Katie isn't any worse than Perez, she only hates the one, why?
Darcyprincess
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“What that she knows Hopkins is playing this true to form and she should submit to her immature dominance over the majority who she's silenced and her need for a cat fight? She tells the odious Perez exactly what she thinks of him and she's the only one in there who can handle him.”

Exactly this Anne, it's not like Nadia takes Perezs' nonsense is it? She tells him when things are not acceptable and when he is in the wrong. I admire Nadia for standing out alone from the group other than Alicia and not bowing down to Hopkins manipulation and nastiness!
Chit_Chat15
18-01-2015
Yes, Perez is a tool, but guess what, he also makes her laugh! She obviously values that as a quality in someone and jesus she needs laughter in that house. And yes, if it pisses off Katie then I'm all for it too. At least Perez makes her laugh, on good days, he's just like an excited puppy and hey, maybe, just maybe, she needs a bit of that.
Joni M
18-01-2015
I do respect Nadia and Alicia for not being one of the Sheeple.
Darcyprincess
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Then Nadia is a fool. Perez COURTS all this, this is what he wants, all she's doing is enabling him and looking either a fool or after some medal for being so 'kind'.

Katie isn't any worse than Perez, she only hates the one, why?”

Nadia is no fool, Hopkins is no different to Perez, she courts the same attention as him but just so much nastier with it. Perez likes centre stage and full of himself but is nowhere as mean and vicious as Hopkins! I can assure you that Hopkins hates more than the one in that house. Didn't you hear the nasty things she said in the diary room about most of the housemates on the first night, but is now licking their backsides? Hopkins is a two faced bully and Nadia is the only person that she has not fooled!
Rhumbatugger
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Joni M:
“I do respect Nadia and Alicia for not being one of the Sheeple.”

Why are the rest sheeple? Cheggers really tried with Perez, even Kav is now getting testy and expressed why in the diary room.

I don't know that they are 'following' Katie and the coven, they may loathe Perez all on their own account.
Rhumbatugger
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Nadia is no fool, Hopkins is no different to Perez, she courts the same attention as him but just so much nastier with it. Perez likes centre stage and full of himself but is nowhere as mean and vicious as Hopkins! I can assure you that Hopkins hates more than the one in that house. Didn't you hear the nasty things she said in the diary room about most of the housemates on the first night, but is now licking their backsides? Hopkins is a two faced bully and Nadia is the only person that she has not fooled!”

Hopkins is predictable and easy to suss. Perez is far more devious, vicious and manipulative.

Hopkins types are ten a bloody penny.

Nadia just hates Hopkins more for other reasons, and/or is too blind/stupid to see what Perez is doing. Or she does and she thinks people will like her for defending him anyway - against Hopkins.
Joni M
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Why are the rest sheeple? Cheggers really tried with Perez, even Kav is now getting testy and expressed why in the diary room.

I don't know that they are 'following' Katie and the coven, they may loathe Perez all on their own account.”

And Hopkins shut him down so she could parade her own Battle Royale against him.
riverside 57
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Why are the rest sheeple? Cheggers really tried with Perez, even Kav is now getting testy and expressed why in the diary room.

I don't know that they are 'following' Katie and the coven, they may loathe Perez all on their own account.”

Exactly, it really spoke volumes to me when Cheggers told Perez to basically p*ss off, Cheggers has to be the least offensive one in there apart from Alicia. Perez would test the patience of a saint, and it just baffles me how anyone finds the things he says and does amusing in the slightest
Rhumbatugger
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Joni M:
“And Hopkins shut him down so she could parade her own Battle Royale against him.”

So? I don't like Hopkins particularly either.

Cheggers was pissed off with Perez before that happened, he wasn't listening to a word.

And Cheggers knew it. And knew it was no good trying to 'help' him, Perez was on his own gig, and didn't give a shit about upsetting people.

Cheggers has him sussed now. He WANTS to upset people, it's part of his plan.
patsylimerick
19-01-2015
All i csn really say about Nadis is thst, in tgst situstion, refusibg to join in the ostrscisation of snyone - no matter how much of a gobshoite they are - is absolutely admirable. It's the very opposite of cowardly. I dont particularly warm to nadia and I can't stand perez, but katie h is possibly the most belligerent bully I ever witnessed on BB.
Joni M
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“So? I don't like Hopkins particularly either.

Cheggers was pissed off with Perez before that happened, he wasn't listening to a word.

And Cheggers knew it. And knew it was no good trying to 'help' him, Perez was on his own gig, and didn't give a shit about upsetting people.

Cheggers has him sussed now. He WANTS to upset people, it's part of his plan.”

But the point is, NONE of them are able to shut Perez down unless Hopkins agrees it is the right way.

They've all had a go at him, especially Nadia, but Hopkins seems to be the one that wants to claim his banishment.
holidaynumpty
19-01-2015
Is Nadia looking for an american gig.
Maybe she thinks that having Perez in her corner may help...a case of having him with me rather than against me...given Perez's track record.
Vesna
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlet O'Hara:
“I agree. She heard the chants to get Perez out but has stood by him. That takes some cajones and puts paid to any idea that she's playing to win.”

It doesn't take balls to continue a vendetta.

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Mmm, I tend to agree.

Mind Hopkins is easy to loathe at the moment. She needs to back off.”

They both are. IMNSHO.

Originally Posted by Joni M:
“That's possibly how I think too. I can't be objective about Hopkins, that's where I'm going wrong on the forum ”

I can be objective about both in the house but I can't overlook what I know about either. Perez is far more virulent than Katie is. He's had far more practice at it.

Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Nadia is no fool, Hopkins is no different to Perez, she courts the same attention as him but just so much nastier with it. Perez likes centre stage and full of himself but is nowhere as mean and vicious as Hopkins! I can assure you that Hopkins hates more than the one in that house. Didn't you hear the nasty things she said in the diary room about most of the housemates on the first night, but is now licking their backsides? Hopkins is a two faced bully and Nadia is the only person that she has not fooled!”

She is a fool as she's being a massive hypocrite. She's backing up Perez because he's targeted Hopkins. Perez is even more vicious and nastier than Hopkins. It's his claim to fame.

Originally Posted by Joni M:
“And Hopkins shut him down so she could parade her own Battle Royale against him.”

She didn't though, he told her no he wouldn't do what she wanted. Perez has just pushed it too far for Cheggars to accept now. Shame is Nadia hasn't seen the light. As long as she's Perez's rock she's a hypocrite. They are both dementors.
Joni M
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“All I can really say about Nadia is that, in this situation, refusing to join in the ostrasization of anyone - no matter how much of a gobshoite they are - is absolutely admirable. It's the very opposite of cowardly. I dont particularly warm to nadia and I can't stand perez, but katie h is possibly the most belligerent bully I ever witnessed on BB.”

Are you posting from your phone Patsy?
I do those spelling things due to arthritis and can't manage the effin' qwerty key board properly.

I have to agree.
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