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worked as a supervisor for years, have had to use skills to read people for honesty. I think emotion is colouring many people's opinions here, not neccessarily AGE or lack of experience.
as for IQ, some people have street smarts and others are naive. Neither really counts when it comes to Big Brother and OPINION i read michelle as a hardcore FAKE. she has her little speeches she bolsters the others, riles them up and sets em loose....sitting back waiting for the chance to play 'the voice of reason'. while I appreciate her attempts at gameplay, i think she's backed the wrong horse. Chloe and cami were the meangirls and i think the old bird was trying too hard to join into the young crowd. its kinda sad. I still think she's making sure Cami is going to go before she does. ITs about making sure other people are your human shield thus giving you a better chance at staying. I didn't know what group she was talking about when she said 'we', as in a group she belonged to, so I was a bit confused. It was only later in her speech that she mentioned that she was talking about gay rights and I could hardly believe what I was hearing. |
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I agree, plus she must know far more about the gay community's concerns and needs than many straight viewers. Also, I think she's doing Alicia a favour; Alicia does need to toughen up and esteem up ... she was being used by Perez. I like that Michelle cares enough to try to help her. Overall, watching her lose it with the stress of being around Perez, I think she's done very well indeed.
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I agree, plus she must know far more about the gay community's concerns and needs than many straight viewers. Also, I think she's doing Alicia a favour; Alicia does need to toughen up and esteem up ... she was being used by Perez. I like that Michelle cares enough to try to help her. Overall, watching her lose it with the stress of being around Perez, I think she's done very well indeed.
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Of for God's sake....what is it Michelle Visage's business how Alicia Duvall conducts herself in the house. WHo made her the guardian of Alicia's behaviour. Preposterous
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It's quite ironic considering how her mate Katie P makes out that Nadia tries to control other people's behaviour and tells them the correct way in which they should behave.
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She's still my favourite.
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worked as a supervisor for years, have had to use skills to read people for honesty. I think emotion is colouring many people's opinions here, not neccessarily AGE or lack of experience.
as for IQ, some people have street smarts and others are naive. Neither really counts when it comes to Big Brother and OPINION i read michelle as a hardcore FAKE. she has her little speeches she bolsters the others, riles them up and sets em loose....sitting back waiting for the chance to play 'the voice of reason'. while I appreciate her attempts at gameplay, i think she's backed the wrong horse. Chloe and cami were the meangirls and i think the old bird was trying too hard to join into the young crowd. its kinda sad. I still think she's making sure Cami is going to go before she does. ITs about making sure other people are your human shield thus giving you a better chance at staying. |
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worked as a supervisor for years, have had to use skills to read people for honesty. I think emotion is colouring many people's opinions here, not neccessarily AGE or lack of experience.
as for IQ, some people have street smarts and others are naive. Neither really counts when it comes to Big Brother and OPINION i read michelle as a hardcore FAKE. she has her little speeches she bolsters the others, riles them up and sets em loose....sitting back waiting for the chance to play 'the voice of reason'. while I appreciate her attempts at gameplay, i think she's backed the wrong horse. Chloe and cami were the meangirls and i think the old bird was trying too hard to join into the young crowd. its kinda sad. I still think she's making sure Cami is going to go before she does. ITs about making sure other people are your human shield thus giving you a better chance at staying. |
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I agree with you. It became so transparent when she put on the tears in her first speech about gay rights.
I didn't know what group she was talking about when she said 'we', as in a group she belonged to, so I was a bit confused. It was only later in her speech that she mentioned that she was talking about gay rights and I could hardly believe what I was hearing. |
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She likes Katie, enough said.
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Of for God's sake....what is it Michelle Visage's business how Alicia Duvall conducts herself in the house. WHo made her the guardian of Alicia's behaviour. Preposterous
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The whole 'I am the official spokesperson for the whole gay community and we do not want Perez because he is too camp' thing is so see through
No thank you. She is not my ambassador/ representative. |
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I thought I would like her. I wanted to like her. But I'm sick of her pious attitude tbh.
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Not really gone off her,and I'm not sure why anyone else would... most of things people are pointing out she has been doing since day one.. Maybe she's just friendly with the 'wrong' housemates...for some posters
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I'm really disappointed in Michelle. I thought in the early days she would be "her own person" and not be dragged along by group mentality. Her affiliation with Katie and the mean girls has not done her any favours with the public. In all this mess in the house Alicia is actually coming over as the female who will speak her mind directly without any real backing behind her. She will challenge mean girls directly - unlike Nadia or Patsy - who just whisper in the corner.
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Not gone off her at all, in fact I like her more. Best housemate this series by a mile.
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Not gone off her at all, in fact I like her more. Best housemate this series by a mile.
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worked as a supervisor for years, have had to use skills to read people for honesty. I think emotion is colouring many people's opinions here, not neccessarily AGE or lack of experience.
as for IQ, some people have street smarts and others are naive. Neither really counts when it comes to Big Brother and OPINION i read michelle as a hardcore FAKE. she has her little speeches she bolsters the others, riles them up and sets em loose....sitting back waiting for the chance to play 'the voice of reason'. while I appreciate her attempts at gameplay, i think she's backed the wrong horse. Chloe and cami were the meangirls and i think the old bird was trying too hard to join into the young crowd. its kinda sad. I still think she's making sure Cami is going to go before she does. ITs about making sure other people are your human shield thus giving you a better chance at staying. She does appear to have quite ferocious fans who I imagine tear up with anger at any criticism of her..............I did not know who she was prior to entering the house but it appears she has some kind of idol status, which she thoroughly enjoys and wants to expand ... I quite liked her the first few days, but I find her hard nosed and ruthless for her own ends and a massive hypocrite who will readily tell porkies to stay in the 'strong' pack ......she is far too quick to get on the soap box and the OTT crying just ridiculous.. it is becoming tedious......her actual behaviour in the house pretty much goes against all that she spouts, others talk of HM's being 'enablers' and that is her to a T, she does not address downright poor behaviour to a perceived 'weak' member of the house, but encourages it, enjoys it and loads the gun and watches it kick off..of course always ready to calm and stoke the hair of her 'strong' girls...........I find nothing admirable about an individual that wants to act martyr to a cause and yet indulges in pretty skanky behaviour to any one she considers less than worthy of being treated with common decency and respect regardless of if they like them as a person..........she doesn't like generalisations and poor treatment of a particular group/person and yet does not practice what she (often) preaches...which makes her appear all the more insincere. She enjoys the pedestal she is on and just wants to widen the net here and I think in that respect she will have gained new fans so job done. |
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Excellent post.
She does appear to have quite ferocious fans who I imagine tear up with anger at any criticism of her..............I did not know who she was prior to entering the house but it appears she has some kind of idol status, which she thoroughly enjoys and wants to expand ... I quite liked her the first few days, but I find her hard nosed and ruthless for her own ends and a massive hypocrite who will readily tell porkies to stay in the 'strong' pack ......she is far too quick to get on the soap box and the OTT crying just ridiculous.. it is becoming tedious......her actual behaviour in the house pretty much goes against all that she spouts, others talk of HM's being 'enablers' and that is her to a T, she does not address downright poor behaviour to a perceived 'weak' member of the house, but encourages it, enjoys it and loads the gun and watches it kick off..of course always ready to calm and stoke the hair of her 'strong' girls...........I find nothing admirable about an individual that wants to act martyr to a cause and yet indulges in pretty skanky behaviour to any one she considers less than worthy of being treated with common decency and respect regardless of if they like them as a person..........she doesn't like generalisations and poor treatment of a particular group/person and yet does not practice what she (often) preaches...which makes her appear all the more insincere. She enjoys the pedestal she is on and just wants to widen the net here and I think in that respect she will have gained new fans so job done. |
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I feel pretty similar
I thought I was going to love her after my teenage son kept telling me how amazing she was but I feel disappointed that she's aligned herself so strongly with Katie Hopkins If Mario left then it may change things. As it is Michelle and Hopkins have something in common. |
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Excellent post.
She does appear to have quite ferocious fans who I imagine tear up with anger at any criticism of her..............I did not know who she was prior to entering the house but it appears she has some kind of idol status, which she thoroughly enjoys and wants to expand ... I quite liked her the first few days, but I find her hard nosed and ruthless for her own ends and a massive hypocrite who will readily tell porkies to stay in the 'strong' pack ......she is far too quick to get on the soap box and the OTT crying just ridiculous.. it is becoming tedious......her actual behaviour in the house pretty much goes against all that she spouts, others talk of HM's being 'enablers' and that is her to a T, she does not address downright poor behaviour to a perceived 'weak' member of the house, but encourages it, enjoys it and loads the gun and watches it kick off..of course always ready to calm and stoke the hair of her 'strong' girls...........I find nothing admirable about an individual that wants to act martyr to a cause and yet indulges in pretty skanky behaviour to any one she considers less than worthy of being treated with common decency and respect regardless of if they like them as a person..........she doesn't like generalisations and poor treatment of a particular group/person and yet does not practice what she (often) preaches...which makes her appear all the more insincere. She enjoys the pedestal she is on and just wants to widen the net here and I think in that respect she will have gained new fans so job done. Describes herself as standing up for outcasts and minorities, yet referred to Alicia as "Dingbat" and is happy to engage in pack attacks of someone she describes as "weak" and has "one brain cell", not quite the champion of the outcast there then..... The hypocritical whipping up of Cami and Chloe to attack Alicia for taking a banana when she and Katie had carefully stolen and hidden food earlier, a case of do as i say and not as i do? The champion of LGBT rights but doesn't attack the HM who calls a gay man a "faggot" but instead berates the gay man for being the wrong sort of gay. Anyone who repeatedly tells me they are one thing when their actions belie their propaganda is an unreliable narrator. |
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To be fair. Where can she go? She don't like Mario so she can't go to Nadia or Patsy? Who else? Calum? He hangs around Cami Li who Hopkins follows around.she don't have much choice.
If Mario left then it may change things. As it is Michelle and Hopkins have something in common. |
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I'm really disappointed in her TBH. I thought she was great the first few days - she seems to have a really nasty streak in her.
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I actually glad you have a fave, I can't stand most of them..and yet I still tune in
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It's interesting the difference between how she describes herself and how her actions describe her.
Describes herself as standing up for outcasts and minorities, yet referred to Alicia as "Dingbat" and is happy to engage in pack attacks of someone she describes as "weak" and has "one brain cell", not quite the champion of the outcast there then..... The hypocritical whipping up of Cami and Chloe to attack Alicia for taking a banana when she and Katie had carefully stolen and hidden food earlier, a case of do as i say and not as i do? The champion of LGBT rights but doesn't attack the HM who calls a gay man a "faggot" but instead berates the gay man for being the wrong sort of gay. Anyone who repeatedly tells me they are one thing when their actions belie their propaganda is an unreliable narrator.
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