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Old 19-01-2015, 02:39
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Earlier in the day on here the narrative seemed to be that Perez HOUNDED and GOADED poor Alex into leaving. I reserved judgement until I had seen it and after doing so I can say that Alex's behaviour was ridiculous!

Yes Perez smiled at him and blew him a kiss - but talk about a bloody overreaction - the guy just couldn't handle himself and the whole breathing on his food and beating his chest thing was very silly indeed.

He clowned himself, not Perez and he knew it which is why he didn't want to be any more foolish and left.
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Old 19-01-2015, 02:48
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I feel bad for him. These celebs reeaaallly need to know what they're doing when they go on these shows. I hope he doesn't take it seriously and goes home happy.
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Old 19-01-2015, 02:50
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All I know is that the house is in dire need of a new strong male figure. I think it's time Ken was given another shot.
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Old 19-01-2015, 02:59
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I feel bad for him. These celebs reeaaallly need to know what they're doing when they go on these shows. I hope he doesn't take it seriously and goes home happy.
Why ?

He was an aggressive, homophobic, sullen, bore

He used inexcusable language and made highly inappropriate gestures to a gay man ( clutching his crotch )

What really IS ridiculous is the pretence from other housemates about how much they loved him
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:07
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Why ?

He was an aggressive, homophobic, sullen, bore

He used inexcusable language and made highly inappropriate gestures to a gay man ( clutching his crotch )

What really IS ridiculous is the pretence from other housemates about how much they loved him
Ok fine. I didn't see all of his behaviour tbh. I don't like to comment.
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:09
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Earlier in the day on here the narrative seemed to be that Perez HOUNDED and GOADED poor Alex into leaving. I reserved judgement until I had seen it and after doing so I can say that Alex's behaviour was ridiculous!

Yes Perez smiled at him and blew him a kiss - but talk about a bloody overreaction - the guy just couldn't handle himself and the whole breathing on his food and beating his chest thing was very silly indeed.

He clowned himself, not Perez and he knew it which is why he didn't want to be any more foolish and left.
i think the homophobe came to the surface and alexander just couldnt take it anymore. I mean seriously, even IF perez was leaning over and coughing into the food, did alex think he was going to catch HIV or somethinhg?? its such a weird thing to go off about.

someone smelling/ standing near food
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:10
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I feel bad for him. These celebs reeaaallly need to know what they're doing when they go on these shows. I hope he doesn't take it seriously and goes home happy.
if you do a bit of research, you'll see alexander has done a few reality type shows already. the difference is, the 24/7 feeds in which everything is caught
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:11
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He said that "NOBODY taunts me EVER". It seems what happened on Thursday with Perez drove him into an apoplectic rage from which he was unable to calm down until his exit (which doesn't necessarily reflect well on him).
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:12
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i think the homophobe came to the surface and alexander just couldnt take it anymore. I mean seriously, even IF perez was leaning over and coughing into the food, did alex think he was going to catch HIV or somethinhg?? its such a weird thing to go off about.

someone smelling/ standing near food
It's cos Perez was ill!
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:17
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i think the homophobe came to the surface and alexander just couldnt take it anymore. I mean seriously, even IF perez was leaning over and coughing into the food, did alex think he was going to catch HIV or somethinhg?? its such a weird thing to go off about.

someone smelling/ standing near food
No coughing ... just standing there

Alicia said as much, and Michelle ( that great champion of the gay community ) said "No" ... she had seen him and he was BREATHING on the food

Alicia responded, bemused, "But if I was just standing there, I'd be breathing on the food too"

Michelle was silent at that point ( shame on her )

Alex being angry about Perez 'breathing' on his food was, in my opinion, a manifestation of his ignorant homophobia ( the additional 'bird flu' comment made that as clear as day )
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:20
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here is a copy/paste of EnricoIV's excellent transcription of the dialogue and some insightful comments that was posted on a different thread:

Okay. I can't believe I just did this, but this is the text of Alexander's rant over the dinner:

[Nadia, Perez, Cami and Alicia are all standing around the cooktop. Katie P. and Alex are at the table.]
KP: Been a good day?
A: Nah, it's a shitty day. But I'm getting through.
KP: Why? Not shit again.
A: Nah, it's not shit again.
KP: Okay. I rest my case.
A: But I won't be eating any of that shit over there because I don't want Perez breathing all over my food and shit like that. I definitely certainly don't want any of his bird flu.
N: Come on, let's not. Let's not. Let's not argue. Come on.
A: Nadia, you're not the peace keeper for me. You keep your own peace.
N: I won't say anything.
A: Okay. You do your own thing.
N: Yeay, you're right. You're right. I shouldn't.
A: You shouldn't.
A: I don't want him breathing over my food. I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that so I'm not going to eat it.
C: [?]. You don't want him breathing on your food?
A: Yeah, I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that. What about that you don't understand.
[Alexander starts pacing, and breathing audibly.]
A: So you guys enjoy. Take your chances where you may.
[Perez leaves the kitchen area and goes towards the diary room stairs.]
A: Get in your ass so [?]. I will get in your ass so [?].
[Alexander starts dancing in Rocky fashion with his arms raised.]
A: What. What. [?] Bam. Boom.
[He turns toward where Perez went (though he's not seen on screen)]
A: Get some son. [grabbing his crotch] You want some son? Get some.
[Kav enters from the garden.]
A: Hey baby.
K: Hey.
[Alexander goes into the garden.]
A: F*** you. F*** you. F*** you.
[Kav returns to the garden.]
K: What's going on man?
A: Nothing. Perez.
K. F***, man.
A: F*** that bitch.
A: Don't want him breathing on my f***king food. Simple as that. Ain't no secret how I feel about him. I don't want to eat food with him breathing on my food. Simple as that. Is there anything derogatory or wrong with that? I don't want it.
A: Since Katie came in the house he's pretending like now all of a sudden he's the nicest guy. I'm so. Why couldn't you let us have that Perez all the time. Why did you have to do what you did.

There was more of him going on to Kav in the garden afterwards.

Really when I slowed it down and analyzed it all, It is a bit disturbing. Nothing was really inciting violence, but a lot of what he was going on about had sexual overtones. And all vaguely homophobic, in my opinion. I guess we can only be thankful that he said Bird flu and not AIDS ... because I wouldn't be at all surprised if that wasn't what he was thinking. Because the discussion afterwards with Kav, he's defending himself and saying nothing he said was derogatory. So he was thinking about it.

Or maybe I'm overthinking.
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Old 19-01-2015, 03:24
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here is a copy/paste of EnricoIV's excellent transcription of the dialogue and some insightful comments that was posted on a different thread:

Okay. I can't believe I just did this, but this is the text of Alexander's rant over the dinner:

[Nadia, Perez, Cami and Alicia are all standing around the cooktop. Katie P. and Alex are at the table.]
KP: Been a good day?
A: Nah, it's a shitty day. But I'm getting through.
KP: Why? Not shit again.
A: Nah, it's not shit again.
KP: Okay. I rest my case.
A: But I won't be eating any of that shit over there because I don't want Perez breathing all over my food and shit like that. I definitely certainly don't want any of his bird flu.
N: Come on, let's not. Let's not. Let's not argue. Come on.
A: Nadia, you're not the peace keeper for me. You keep your own peace.
N: I won't say anything.
A: Okay. You do your own thing.
N: Yeay, you're right. You're right. I shouldn't.
A: You shouldn't.
A: I don't want him breathing over my food. I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that so I'm not going to eat it.
C: [?]. You don't want him breathing on your food?
A: Yeah, I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that. What about that you don't understand.
[Alexander starts pacing, and breathing audibly.]
A: So you guys enjoy. Take your chances where you may.
[Perez leaves the kitchen area and goes towards the diary room stairs.]
A: Get in your ass so [?]. I will get in your ass so [?].
[Alexander starts dancing in Rocky fashion with his arms raised.]
A: What. What. [?] Bam. Boom.
[He turns toward where Perez went (though he's not seen on screen)]
A: Get some son. [grabbing his crotch] You want some son? Get some.
[Kav enters from the garden.]
A: Hey baby.
K: Hey.
[Alexander goes into the garden.]
A: F*** you. F*** you. F*** you.
[Kav returns to the garden.]
K: What's going on man?
A: Nothing. Perez.
K. F***, man.
A: F*** that bitch.
A: Don't want him breathing on my f***king food. Simple as that. Ain't no secret how I feel about him. I don't want to eat food with him breathing on my food. Simple as that. Is there anything derogatory or wrong with that? I don't want it.
A: Since Katie came in the house he's pretending like now all of a sudden he's the nicest guy. I'm so. Why couldn't you let us have that Perez all the time. Why did you have to do what you did.

There was more of him going on to Kav in the garden afterwards.

Really when I slowed it down and analyzed it all, It is a bit disturbing. Nothing was really inciting violence, but a lot of what he was going on about had sexual overtones. And all vaguely homophobic, in my opinion. I guess we can only be thankful that he said Bird flu and not AIDS ... because I wouldn't be at all surprised if that wasn't what he was thinking. Because the discussion afterwards with Kav, he's defending himself and saying nothing he said was derogatory. So he was thinking about it.

Or maybe I'm overthinking.
Interesting that Alexander left the house less than an hour after this. Was he kicked out in fact?
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Old 19-01-2015, 06:32
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Strange how we didn't see him leaving
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Old 19-01-2015, 06:55
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Why ?

He was an aggressive, homophobic, sullen, bore

He used inexcusable language and made highly inappropriate gestures to a gay man ( clutching his crotch )

What really IS ridiculous is the pretence from other housemates about how much they loved him
Well said...
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Old 19-01-2015, 07:08
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here is a copy/paste of EnricoIV's excellent transcription of the dialogue and some insightful comments that was posted on a different thread:

Okay. I can't believe I just did this, but this is the text of Alexander's rant over the dinner:

[Nadia, Perez, Cami and Alicia are all standing around the cooktop. Katie P. and Alex are at the table.]
KP: Been a good day?
A: Nah, it's a shitty day. But I'm getting through.
KP: Why? Not shit again.
A: Nah, it's not shit again.
KP: Okay. I rest my case.
A: But I won't be eating any of that shit over there because I don't want Perez breathing all over my food and shit like that. I definitely certainly don't want any of his bird flu.
N: Come on, let's not. Let's not. Let's not argue. Come on.
A: Nadia, you're not the peace keeper for me. You keep your own peace.
N: I won't say anything.
A: Okay. You do your own thing.
N: Yeay, you're right. You're right. I shouldn't.
A: You shouldn't.
A: I don't want him breathing over my food. I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that so I'm not going to eat it.
C: [?]. You don't want him breathing on your food?
A: Yeah, I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that. What about that you don't understand.
[Alexander starts pacing, and breathing audibly.]
A: So you guys enjoy. Take your chances where you may.
[Perez leaves the kitchen area and goes towards the diary room stairs.]
A: Get in your ass so [?]. I will get in your ass so [?].[Alexander starts dancing in Rocky fashion with his arms raised.]
A: What. What. [?] Bam. Boom.
[He turns toward where Perez went (though he's not seen on screen)]
A: Get some son. [grabbing his crotch] You want some son? Get some.
[Kav enters from the garden.]
A: Hey baby.
K: Hey.
[Alexander goes into the garden.]
A: F*** you. F*** you. F*** you.
[Kav returns to the garden.]


Or maybe I'm overthinking.
alexander says I will get into your ass so Ne(stops himself) I will get into your ass so easy.

i would LOVE to know what the N word alexander was going to say LOL go relisten for yourself.
its around 19 mins in on the daily show
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Old 19-01-2015, 07:48
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here is a copy/paste of EnricoIV's excellent transcription of the dialogue and some insightful comments that was posted on a different thread:

Okay. I can't believe I just did this, but this is the text of Alexander's rant over the dinner:

[Nadia, Perez, Cami and Alicia are all standing around the cooktop. Katie P. and Alex are at the table.]
KP: Been a good day?
A: Nah, it's a shitty day. But I'm getting through.
KP: Why? Not shit again.
A: Nah, it's not shit again.
KP: Okay. I rest my case.
A: But I won't be eating any of that shit over there because I don't want Perez breathing all over my food and shit like that. I definitely certainly don't want any of his bird flu.
N: Come on, let's not. Let's not. Let's not argue. Come on.
A: Nadia, you're not the peace keeper for me. You keep your own peace.
N: I won't say anything.
A: Okay. You do your own thing.
N: Yeay, you're right. You're right. I shouldn't.
A: You shouldn't.
A: I don't want him breathing over my food. I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that so I'm not going to eat it.
C: [?]. You don't want him breathing on your food?
A: Yeah, I don't want him breathing on my food. It's as simple as that. What about that you don't understand.
[Alexander starts pacing, and breathing audibly.]
A: So you guys enjoy. Take your chances where you may.
[Perez leaves the kitchen area and goes towards the diary room stairs.]
A: Get in your ass so [?]. I will get in your ass so [?].
[Alexander starts dancing in Rocky fashion with his arms raised.]
A: What. What. [?] Bam. Boom.
[He turns toward where Perez went (though he's not seen on screen)]
A: Get some son. [grabbing his crotch] You want some son? Get some.
[Kav enters from the garden.]
A: Hey baby.
K: Hey.
[Alexander goes into the garden.]
A: F*** you. F*** you. F*** you.
[Kav returns to the garden.]
K: What's going on man?
A: Nothing. Perez.
K. F***, man.
A: F*** that bitch.
A: Don't want him breathing on my f***king food. Simple as that. Ain't no secret how I feel about him. I don't want to eat food with him breathing on my food. Simple as that. Is there anything derogatory or wrong with that? I don't want it.
A: Since Katie came in the house he's pretending like now all of a sudden he's the nicest guy. I'm so. Why couldn't you let us have that Perez all the time. Why did you have to do what you did.

There was more of him going on to Kav in the garden afterwards.

Really when I slowed it down and analyzed it all, It is a bit disturbing. Nothing was really inciting violence, but a lot of what he was going on about had sexual overtones. And all vaguely homophobic, in my opinion. I guess we can only be thankful that he said Bird flu and not AIDS ... because I wouldn't be at all surprised if that wasn't what he was thinking. Because the discussion afterwards with Kav, he's defending himself and saying nothing he said was derogatory. So he was thinking about it.

Or maybe I'm overthinking.
Reading it back like that, I think you may be right. I might rewatch some earlier days in the house over the next couple of days and see if I can pick anything up from that. I don't recall him having an issue with Perez in the first few days so assumed he just hated Perez for the way he was acting. Did Alex know Kavana is gay?
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:01
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I like Alexander but think his old ways in gangs came to the fore with his anger at Perez.. when he should have been saying and doing things over a week ago and not leaving it to fester like this....
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:21
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Unfortunately Alex was just getting more and more wound up. Another one that has bitten with Perez and his wind ups. Its a real shame that he probably wont get his fee and that people wasted their money voting for him and Chloe could have stayed. Perez shreiking that he feared for his safety every 5 minutes and the fact that Alex already had had a warning, I think he was worried about getting kicked out as well and jumped first.
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:35
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Alex had to go if he didn't I think he would have kicked off big time
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:38
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I think it was incredibly sad to see the man so upset and all at the hands of that grotesque gargoyle Perez Hilton. I'm glad Alex is gone and doesn't have to endure any more goading, baiting or taunts from that creep.
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:47
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There has been a flu going round that house a doc was called in last week and you heard Michelle hoarse a couple of days ago. Perez deliberately coughed over Alexander and woke him and continued goading him all day resulting in the faggot comment for which Alexander was warned. Perez however got off scot free despite his despicable harassment so I can see why Alexander was still angry. In the real world Perez would have got a punch and that would have been the end of it but in the house Perez is using his sexuality as a get out of jail free card and a stick to beat people with (if a straight man had provoked a woman the way he provoked Alex he would have been warned for sure) and with his ' I am in fear for my safety' nonsense. This is clearly his game plan because he said it about Jeremy and that really had nothing to do with him.
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:49
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There has been a flu going round that house a doc was called in last week and you heard Michelle hoarse a couple of days ago. Perez deliberately coughed over Alexander and woke him and continued goading him all day resulting in the faggot comment for which Alexander was warned. Perez however got off scot free despite his despicable harassment so I can see why Alexander was still angry. In the real world Perez would have got a punch and that would have been the end of it but in the house Perez is using his sexuality as a get out of jail free card and a stick to beat people with (if a straight man had provoked a woman the way he provoked Alex he would have been warned for sure) and with his ' I am in fear for my safety' nonsense. This is clearly his game plan because he said it about Jeremy and that really had nothing to do with him.
Good post.
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:51
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I think it was incredibly sad to see the man so upset and all at the hands of that grotesque gargoyle Perez Hilton. I'm glad Alex is gone and doesn't have to endure any more goading, baiting or taunts from that creep.
I think sad we saw a man who couldn't control himself and just rise above the situation. Be a grown up about it all.
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:52
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Earlier in the day on here the narrative seemed to be that Perez HOUNDED and GOADED poor Alex into leaving. I reserved judgement until I had seen it and after doing so I can say that Alex's behaviour was ridiculous!

Yes Perez smiled at him and blew him a kiss - but talk about a bloody overreaction - the guy just couldn't handle himself and the whole breathing on his food and beating his chest thing was very silly indeed.

He clowned himself, not Perez and he knew it which is why he didn't want to be any more foolish and left.
Don't forget we don't see everything that goes on. They never showed Perez coughing over Alex in the night on the H/L's. You only saw it if you could watch on-line.

I think more went on that we did not see imo.
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:53
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Alex has over the course of time been goaded into this by Perez.
We're all human and we all have a breaking point. Perez just needs to leave now, poisonous man.
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