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scout2006
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“I just think BB handled this so disgracefully. Perez Hilton should have been called to the DR and given a warning about his provocative & contentious behaviour. He wasn't, he was allowed free reign to belittle and goad another housemate until they snapped.

I would surmise that Alexander did get his fee or some portion of it. He deseves every penny of it imo.”

So BB should have called Perez to the DR and given him a warning for provocative & contentious breathing, as that was the behaviour Alexander complained about that day. Okay then
Styker
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“So BB should have called Perez to the DR and given him a warning for provocative & contentious breathing, as that was the behaviour Alexander complained about that day. Okay then ”

Perez standing up next to housemates beds early in the morning coughing loudly waking them up escaped your attention did it? He didn't seem to stop and or apologise when they remonstrated with him either! I think its obvious he deliberatly did it to wake them up, wind them up and therefore I saw that as harassment. BB should have warned him for that!

Also Cheggars nominated Perez in the first nominations because Perez kept on sitting on food surfaces and I can't remember if Cheggars said he put his fingers into the food as well but Alexander was not the only one to be bothered on those kind of grounds.
diesels hummin
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“So BB should have called Perez to the DR and given him a warning for provocative & contentious breathing, as that was the behaviour Alexander complained about that day. Okay then ”

I would have done him for provocative and contentious coughing by his bed in the middle of the night when he was trying to get some sleep
scout2006
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Perez standing up next to housemates beds early in the morning coughing loudly waking them up escaped your attention did it? He didn't seem to stop and or apologise when they remonstrated with him either! I think its obvious he deliberatly did it to wake them up, wind them up and therefore I saw that as harassment. BB should have warned him for that!

Also Cheggars nominated Perez in the first nominations because Perez kept on sitting on food surfaces and I can't remember if Cheggars said he put his fingers into the food as well but Alexander was not the only one to be bothered on those kind of grounds.”

It was far too late to give Perez a warning for coughing in the bedroom (which I thought was selfish and juvenile btw) or the smiling and blowing kisses because too much time had passed. If they were going to give him a warning for those incidents they should have done it shortly afterwards, not days afterwards.

When Alex lost his rag on Saturday it was because Perez was supposedly breathing on his food/ Do you seriously believe that warranted a warning?
SpyInsider
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“I'm sure Jeremy and Ken got part payment so Alex should .”

Agreed. He should get some of it.
scout2006
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by diesels hummin:
“I would have done him for provocative and contentious coughing by his bed in the middle of the night when he was trying to get some sleep”

I agree with you, he should have been spoken to about that. Unfortunately it doesn't seem that he was.
Styker
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“It was far too late to give Perez a warning for coughing in the bedroom (which I thought was selfish and juvenile btw) or the smiling and blowing kisses because too much time had passed. If they were going to give him a warning for those incidents they should have done it shortly afterwards, not days afterwards.

When Alex lost his rag on Saturday it was because Perez was supposedly breathing on his food/ Do you seriously believe that warranted a warning?”

Well yes, thats what we are saying, that BB should have warned him for the coughing on the day. Is Perez already on one warning anyway? If he is, the second one could have been his final chance and made him back off to the extent that Alex wouldn't of got so worked up and left.
Veri
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I thought that if they stayed a certain length of time they were able to negotiate for some of their fee.

ETA - I don't know why people are looking for a conspiracy and claiming it was what Perez demanded. The explanation is pretty much as I thought - the man had extreme anger issues. FGS - even in the statement it talks about how he would have wanted to fight it out if he'd been younger - there is talk of 'hitting' Perez.

It was clear that he was a hairs breadth away from losing it in there.”

But it WAS what Perez was in effect demanding with his talk of fearing for his safety (the same card he played against Jeremy). No "conspiracy" is needed for that part.

Also, to the extent that Alexander was "a hairs breadth away from losing it in there", it was because Perez was continuing to try to provoke him.
Veri
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Well yes, thats what we are saying, that BB should have warned him for the coughing on the day. Is Perez already on one warning anyway? If he is, the second one could have been his final chance and made him back off to the extent that Alex wouldn't of got so worked up and left.”

I don't think so, not a formal warning anyway. And it even looks like BB, far from doing anything against Perez, is contriving a twist this week that will keep him in.
moonlily
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Whatever happened, it was so unnecessary. Why BB allowd Perez Hilton to goad, bait and attempt to humiliate Alexander without censure is beyond me.

For ALexanders sanity and dignity I am actually now glad he choose to leave.”

Me too, I can't imagine what it must be like living in that house with Perez Hilton, he is very sinister. Yet he doesn't appear to warned for his bad behaviour, BB seem to relish it .
Penny Crayon
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Why didn't they show us what he said in the Diary Room though and what they said back to him?!

I smell a rat in why they didn't show us what happened in the diary room and I suspect they kicked him out but might have come to a deal that he can keep his money by making out that he done the messege to the housemmates and to the press.”

I would think Alex was fuming and probably lost it - I imagine they asked him to calm down etc. etc as they do. I'm sure it really wouldn't have done the 'big mans' reputation much good at all.

There is no doubt at all that Perez was/is a complete arse and he goaded Alex - how Alex coped with it and subsequently reacted was down to him. It was very telling in the statement that it mentioned - sorting it out man to man and hitting.

They are simply protecting his reputation.
mysty211
19-01-2015
I'd say Alexander walked and since Chloe was saying how Alexander wanted to leave to see his family how he missed them so much so he probably didn't want to bother staying there any longer especially with Perez provoking him like that with nowhere to go. He was a great housemate wished he'd have stayed it's for the best he left if he was close to lashing out at Perez. I hope he got some of his fee he deserves it .
Styker
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I don't think so, not a formal warning anyway. And it even looks like BB, far from doing anything against Perez, is contriving a twist this week that will keep him in. ”

They will probably allow him as the person with most nominations to choose who to evict or something!
NaughtyNan
19-01-2015
I think the reason Alex left was because he knew he won't be able to hold his tongue and to avoid further warning and risk not getting his fee. So he left and got his fee plus he didn't want to be in there from as early as first few days. Nothing to do with Prez as if he wanted he could just ignore him.
Artemis1
19-01-2015
I think that the reason they did not show the big man leaving was simple.

Alex was angry he wanted to leave--- big brother as he always does asked him to think about it and come back to him.
Alex was adamant.
One word led to another and bb had to open the doors and let him go.
They usually don't let people go immediately but get security to escort them off the premises.
Stellen11
19-01-2015
Why not just show us if his reasons were so inoffensive. Something has gone on.
Penny Crayon
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Stellen11:
“Why not just show us if his reasons were so inoffensive. Something has gone on.”

Why do you assume he was inoffensive? I think he probably lost it big time in the DR - they are protecting his reputation.
Deb Arkle
19-01-2015
I think Penny's got it right - IMO Alex was very close to losing it completely in the house, and he knew he'd either get violent or verbally abusive.

I'm finding it fascinating TBH, so many are wanting Perez to leave, but he's playing it very cleverly - he's not come close to breaking any rules IIRC, it's not against BB rules to be as offensive as you can be. He's taunting & goading to make everyone else break the rules/look like bullies!
amyawake
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“darn it, signed on at 3am just to answer this post, it got me steamed.

ummm we never SAW perez blowing kisses or Goading alexander. All we saw was some coughing ONE morning. later what we DID see was nadia stirring pots on the stove while Perez stood over on teh opposite side of the island ..yes, just standing. NOT bending over, NOT breathing into the food, just standing there.

it wasnt alex's food, perez didnt bend forward contaminating the food NOR does he have bird flu as alex suggested.

however, we did hear from keith that Alex is hacking up phlegm and leaving the soggy bits of scummy tissue all over the house.


So whats worse?? contaminated tissue or someone simply STANDING in the kitchen??

glad the old coot is gone”

Well my point was that Perez only gets away with bullying (e.g. the coughing farce) because he is in the safety of the BB house.....are you suggesting he might do that in a real life set up to Alex??? Never in a million years!
amyawake
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Why didn't they show us what he said in the Diary Room though and what they said back to him?!

I smell a rat in why they didn't show us what happened in the diary room and I suspect they kicked him out but might have come to a deal that he can keep his money by making out that he done the messege to the housemmates and to the press.”

Yes that is all highly suspect.
lkhere
19-01-2015
Personally think Alex left before he punched Perez, who had been targeting Alex since that morning Alex told him to stop sh*t-stirring as soon as he got out of bed..
Perez knows damn fine what he is doing by following people around, smirking to annoy people, acting like a d**k to get camera attention on him (which is just pissing HMs off now), every conversation was being taken over by Perez but when people moved he would just follow them...

As regards to Perez's constant dripping tap goading, bearing in mind this guy knows how to skirt along the boundaries of what is within the rules of the house, he has done the following to Alex:
- Starting drip feeding to others he felt unsafe round him
- Coughing on purpose near his bed
- Admitting to the house the next day that he did this on purpose which is what upset the HMs and caused the next point
- Whilst Alex was trying to get away from Perez after admitting the above, Perez decides to join the group and starts being suggestive with that bloody bunny, smirking and blowing kisses at Alex just to provoke him further. Unfortunately it worked and Alex came out with the f word; but lets put it out there Perez had no problem using this against Will iam's manager recently & justified it
- What Alex's outburst did highlight is some homophobia which he had kept to himself but Perez did latch on this further by prancing around Alex when he could as he knew this would wind Alex up further, against smirking around him - the breathing thing was probably the best Alex cd come up with due to the coughing thing (but rubbish excuse anyway)
- I will say that conversation about a HM still drug using was about Alex

Basically Perez is trying to push their buttons, Katie is not doing herself any favours at the moment as she is playing into his hand (even though it would be lovely for someone to give him a taste of his own medicine)

The man is a self obsessed idiot who is just trying to create conflict which will mean some juicy column inches for his blog...he really better not win!!
zabe
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by NaughtyNan:
“I think the reason Alex left was because he knew he won't be able to hold his tongue and to avoid further warning and risk not getting his fee. So he left and got his fee plus he didn't want to be in there from as early as first few days. Nothing to do with Prez as if he wanted he could just ignore him.”

"None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see."
Darcyprincess
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“I agree with everything you have said, only thing I find sad is that Perez Hilton has people that think what he did was acceptable.”

I don't think that the way Hilton or Hopkins is acting is acceptable, they are both awful, disgusting people. I think that both of them should have had warnings for their disgusting behaviour!
mmpfb
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by erin_p:
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“Perez was taunting him. He was baiting him and trying to get a reaction so he would be chucked out.””

Perez was doing f*** all that day apart from wearing a dress. Alex seemed unable to let it go and stood glaring and winding himself up without any further help from Perez.

Originally Posted by erin_p:
“The source explained to the tabloid: “If someone behaved like that outside the house, especially when Alex was younger, they would have settled it man to man. It was getting to the stage where Alex was going to react.”

Macho bullshit.

Originally Posted by erin_p:
““He is in his 60s now, he’s a responsible adult and he knows how to behave. He can’t be on telly hitting someone, no matter how much they may deserve it.””

Subtext: Wearing a dress or being overtly theatrical/camp = deserving of being hit. Again, macho bullshit.

I liked Alexander in the house to an extent but his faggot outburst and subsequent inability to just chill out and get on with betrayed a bubbling brook of homophobia under the gentle giant facade. It lost him a lot of respect from me. His failure to ignore a man in a dress was his issue, not Perez's.
sammyvan
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“I agree with everything you have said, only thing I find sad is that Perez Hilton has people that think what he did was acceptable.”

I too am finding it difficult to understand that anyone could find Perez amusing, entertaining and behaving acceptably? Nothing he has done relates to normal behavior, he intentionally irritates his fellow housemates [ what he did to Alex was beyond disgraceful ] he taunts and mocks while behaving like a depraved being. What is entertaining about that? Why is he being allowed to continue - without any warnings [ that we have seen ] from BB producers?
I just cannot understand why anyone would vote to save him - the series can only be saved if he is voted out asap. If not, then IMO the future of BB is in doubt.
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