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Old 19-01-2015, 21:06
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Not knowing much about hopkins private life i never knew about her affair with a married man until perez taunted her about it. But for someone so judgemental and moralising it has made her so much more loathesome in my eyes.
She was involved in 3 families breaking up and seven children suffering

A nice woman she most certainly is not...
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Old 19-01-2015, 21:11
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and that article is from 2007. She is still with her husband - some people will drag up anything to try and discredit Katie. People change and I believe she has.
Do you think she's changed for the better
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Old 19-01-2015, 21:14
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There's a huge difference between 'breaking a heart' in the girlfriend/boyfriend situation and having affairs with married men where children are involved. It causes so much pain and heartbreak that some children never get over it. The husbands must take the most responsibility but she is not blameless. If she had done it once I could be forgiven for thinking she didn't know he was married. To do it more than once makes her a cold, nasty woman, especially when she rants on about not regretting it.
Although I loath to defend Hopkins I do think ultimately the man or women who made the commitment to marriage is to blame. No one is that weak that they cannot turn down an advance. I do think her whole attitude about it stinks, but you don't force someone to have an affair.
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Old 19-01-2015, 21:16
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and that article is from 2007. She is still with her husband - some people will drag up anything to try and discredit Katie. People change and I believe she has.
Try telling that to the 3 women and 7 children she made suffer because of her reprehensible behaviour.

Are you seriously saying that what was done in the past is okay because it is now history
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Old 19-01-2015, 21:20
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Everyone changes and evolves, I just don't buy into Hopkins and her self righteous crap. She goes with what the media is dissecting, and throws her viewpoint on it.

I know more people fiddling Taxes than benefits
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Old 20-01-2015, 01:26
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KH has said that she would never cheat on her husband as too many little hearts could be broken , did she ever consider the Little Hearts she broke over her affairs with married men in the past.... as long as their not her Little Hearts it doesnt matter.. hard horrible woman. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ells-pain.html
That's the first I've heard of Hopkins' personal life

What kind of woman does that ... again ... and again ... and again

There must be a psychological term that encompasses that kind of relentless destructiveness
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Old 20-01-2015, 01:38
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That's the first I've heard of Hopkins' personal life

What kind of woman does that ... again ... and again ... and again

There must be a psychological term that encompasses that kind of relentless destructiveness


Erotomania.
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Old 20-01-2015, 01:39
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Sociopaths don't do guilt. Emotional pain is for losers, winners just take what they want and don't count the cost to others.

Or some such self justification.
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Old 20-01-2015, 01:56
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They included millionaire businessman Damian McKinney, her former boss, whose 19-year marriage was destroyed by their affair. McKinney left his wife Tina and their three children to be with Katie.

McKinney married Katie in 2004, shortly after the birth of their first daughter. But he left her a year later after the birth of their second daughter.

Single once more, Katie started a relationship with another married man, a former work colleague. His three-year marriage collapsed shortly afterwards, but Katie maintains he was already separated from his wife when they started to date.

While The Apprentice was being aired she began another affair with married Mark Cross.

He left his wife, Ruth, to live with Katie and the couple's first child, Max, was born last year.

Today, Katie admits that she is for the first time counting the financial cost of those wrecked marriages.

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Why does she go for married men when it causes so much heartache ?
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Old 20-01-2015, 02:25
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Why does she go for married men when it causes so much heartache ?
From 'Psychology Today' journal : ( By Frank Pittman, published May 01, 1993 )

Spider Woman

There are women who, by nature, romantics, don't want to escape their own life and die for love. Instead they'd rather have some guy wreck his life for them. These women have been betrayed by unfaithful men and the wound is so raw they are out for revenge. A woman who angrily pursues married men is 'a spider woman' - she requires human sacrifice to restore her sense of power.
When she is sucking the blood from other people's marriages she feels some relief from the pain. She simply requires that a man love her enough to sacrifice his life for her. She may be particularly attracted to happy marriages, clearly envious of the woman whose husband is faithful and loving to her. Sometimes it isn't clear whether she wants to replace the happy wife or just make her miserable


Judy James ... eat your heart out
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Old 20-01-2015, 03:09
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Although I loath to defend Hopkins I do think ultimately the man or women who made the commitment to marriage is to blame. No one is that weak that they cannot turn down an advance. I do think her whole attitude about it stinks, but you don't force someone to have an affair.
But it also takes two people to have an affair. And both are equally culpable. She knew they were married at the time. Not knowing would be the only way one of the pair would not be at fault.
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Old 20-01-2015, 03:23
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But it also takes two people to have an affair. And both are equally culpable. She knew they were married at the time. Not knowing would be the only way one of the pair would not be at fault.
The real point here is the 'serial' nature of Hopkins deceit

A woman who, perhaps, unwittingly falls into an affair with a married you might have some understanding of

A woman who breaks up two marriages/families by having affairs and it starts to look seriously iffy

A woman who breaks up three marriages/families and you're looking at a woman with an agenda

... and it's an agenda that stinks
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Old 20-01-2015, 06:11
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But it also takes two people to have an affair. And both are equally culpable. She knew they were married at the time. Not knowing would be the only way one of the pair would not be at fault.
Only one of them made a vow though.

I am not saying Hopkins isn't immoral or cruel in her actions, (I find her attitude pretty despicable) but I don't consider her to blame for breaking up the marriage. If the men in question had any sort of loyalty or decency then no women should turn their head. It's down to them to uphold their marriage vows in my opinion.
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Old 20-01-2015, 06:19
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Only one of them made a vow though.
Actually it was three of them who made a vow

All of them broken

The common denominator ?

.... Katie Hopkins
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Old 20-01-2015, 09:16
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Actually it was three of them who made a vow

All of them broken

The common denominator ?

.... Katie Hopkins
Throw seven children into the mix of those broken marriages..don't know how she sleeps at night.
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Old 20-01-2015, 09:38
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Shes a callous cow who doesnt care about other peoples children and how they coped after the breakups.
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Old 20-01-2015, 09:48
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This thread is hilarious, Katie wasn't the first woman to participate in infidelity and she certainly won't be the last! Either in Big Brother or in the real world.

How many people have killed themselves as a direct result of Katies behaviour? I'd guess one less than Nadia.
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Old 20-01-2015, 10:07
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How many people have killed themselves as a direct result of Katies behaviour? I'd guess one less than Nadia.
That is an awful thing to say. Suicide is a tragic thing to happen, but she didn't kill him. She ended their marriage. People ARE allowed to do that you know. She began seeing someone AFTER she ended their marriage, which was the decent thing to do. To blame her for him being able to cope is unfair. What is she supposed to do...even if she had some inkling that he was THAT fragile, spend the rest of her life miserable "just in case"?
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Old 20-01-2015, 10:18
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There's a huge difference between 'breaking a heart' in the girlfriend/boyfriend situation and having affairs with married men where children are involved. It causes so much pain and heartbreak that some children never get over it. The husbands must take the most responsibility but she is not blameless. If she had done it once I could be forgiven for thinking she didn't know he was married. To do it more than once makes her a cold, nasty woman, especially when she rants on about not regretting it.


It is unfair to judgr Katie's behaviour outside the house unless you subject the other HMs to the same scrutiny. I doubt that Katie is the only offender in there.
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Old 20-01-2015, 10:25
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It is unfair to judgr Katie's behaviour outside the house unless you subject the other HMs to the same scrutiny. I doubt that Katie is the only offender in there.
I doubt Katie is the only offender in there but the topic is Katie.
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Old 20-01-2015, 10:46
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That is an awful thing to say. Suicide is a tragic thing to happen, but she didn't kill him. She ended their marriage. People ARE allowed to do that you know. She began seeing someone AFTER she ended their marriage, which was the decent thing to do. To blame her for him being able to cope is unfair. What is she supposed to do...even if she had some inkling that he was THAT fragile, spend the rest of her life miserable "just in case"?

The point is that peoples choices are always going to affect other people, Was this mans suicide a direct result of Nadia's actions? Yes.

Does this mean Nadia is responsible for his Suicide - No, he is ultimately responsible for himself.

In the same way, Was these Kids & their Mum's heartbreak a direct result of Katie's actions? Possibly, At worst 50% in every case. If these fathers were happy to let themselves be 'dragged off kicking and screaming' by seductress Katie, then it was only a matter of time before they allowed themselves to be dragged off by anyone else.

If anyone thinks the removal of KH from these marriages would have resulted in anything less than a temporary reprieve, then I feel you are deluding yourselves.
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Old 20-01-2015, 10:58
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The point is that peoples choices are always going to affect other people, Was this mans suicide a direct result of Nadia's actions? Yes.

Does this mean Nadia is responsible for his Suicide - No, he is ultimately responsible for himself.

In the same way, Was these Kids & their Mum's heartbreak a direct result of Katie's actions? Possibly, At worst 50% in every case. If these fathers were happy to let themselves be 'dragged off kicking and screaming' by seductress Katie, then it was only a matter of time before they allowed themselves to be dragged off by anyone else.

If anyone thinks the removal of KH from these marriages would have resulted in anything less than a temporary reprieve, then I feel you are deluding yourselves.
I disagree, Marriages break down all the time and usually for a multitude of reasons. Who knows why Nadia's did not survive.It is silly to put the blame on either side for the split when nobody knows the in's and out's. At least Nadia did not embark on an affair while she was with her hubby. The consequences of the split are heartbreaking but then there could have been many reasons as to why he took his life and the split could likely be only a part of it. Nobody will ever know though will they.

As for Hopkins......well its not so much for me her contribution to home wrecking (though 3 times does show a certain carelessness and lack of morals) but her attitude towards it, the fact she shows and speaks of no care or remorse for those women and children whom she hurt and her comments with regard to the hurt her own children might suffer should she now stray. where is the empathy for other children which she helped put in that position.
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Old 20-01-2015, 11:01
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Doesnt it look as if Hopkins only went for married men as it put her in more control to take over by being able to win over another woman... or maybe single ones didnt fancy the cow.
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Old 20-01-2015, 22:54
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The point is that peoples choices are always going to affect other people, Was this mans suicide a direct result of Nadia's actions? Yes.

Does this mean Nadia is responsible for his Suicide - No, he is ultimately responsible for himself.

In the same way, Was these Kids & their Mum's heartbreak a direct result of Katie's actions? Possibly, At worst 50% in every case. If these fathers were happy to let themselves be 'dragged off kicking and screaming' by seductress Katie, then it was only a matter of time before they allowed themselves to be dragged off by anyone else.

If anyone thinks the removal of KH from these marriages would have resulted in anything less than a temporary reprieve, then I feel you are deluding yourselves.
The question that interests me is what is there about Katie Hopkins that leads her to repeatedly go after men who are already married ?
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Old 20-01-2015, 22:56
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The question that interests me is what is there about Katie Hopkins that leads her to repeatedly go after men who are already married ?
More of a challenge for her I think. In fact I think she admitted something of the kind about one of them at least.
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