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Nadia's own game plan destroyed...by herself
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Pete_Lashmar
19-01-2015
So, Nadia went into the BB house, with an absolute hatred of Katy Hopkins and all that she stands for.

After a very short while she realises that Perez & Katie hate each other - they are not going to get on at all - but she finds Perez entertaining, as do quite a few of the housemates and thinking that the viewers will too decides to befriend Perez.

But Perez becomes more and more the gameplayer and as he does, the housemates that had befriended him start to give him some distance - and as his antics gets worse realise that Katie was right from the off.

But Nadia, thinking Perez was her way of getting to Katie (because she's a coward and can't do it herself) is left with Perez and is now stuck in the position of defending him.
DiamondDoll
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“So, Nadia went into the BB house, with an absolute hatred of Katy Hopkins and all that she stands for.

After a very short while she realises that Perez & Katie hate each other - they are not going to get on at all - but she finds Perez entertaining, as do quite a few of the housemates and thinking that the viewers will too decides to befriend Perez.

But Perez becomes more and more the gameplayer and as he does, the housemates that had befriended him start to give him some distance - and as his antics gets worse realise that Katie was right from the off.

But Nadia, thinking Perez was her way of getting to Katie (because she's a coward and can't do it herself) is left with Perez and is now stuck in the position of defending him.”

I agree with your post, particularly the part I've emboldened.
aggielane
19-01-2015
You have to wonder if Katie H hadn't gone in the house if Nadia would be as annoyed by Perez as everybody else is
Patricia_Khan
19-01-2015
How clever of you.
amyawake
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“So, Nadia went into the BB house, with an absolute hatred of Katy Hopkins and all that she stands for.

After a very short while she realises that Perez & Katie hate each other - they are not going to get on at all - but she finds Perez entertaining, as do quite a few of the housemates and thinking that the viewers will too decides to befriend Perez.

But Perez becomes more and more the gameplayer and as he does, the housemates that had befriended him start to give him some distance - and as his antics gets worse realise that Katie was right from the off.

But Nadia, thinking Perez was her way of getting to Katie (because she's a coward and can't do it herself) is left with Perez and is now stuck in the position of defending him.”

Er...coward? She dislikes conflict and tries to dispel it...but, more relevantly, she told Hopkins on the first day that they were totally different. That's what I call laying your cards on the table right there. She doesn't want to stoop to Hopkins level and have a bitch session...do you recall last night when she said she wasn't going to give her blood? There's the reason.

However, I agree that she is somewhat stuck with Perez now though....maybe just till Friday. (Hoping he will get booted).
meglosmurmurs
19-01-2015
It'll be destroyed if she gets evicted because of it.

She's still there and could still win, stranger things have happened. Be afraid!
Scarlett Berry
19-01-2015
What a load of old tripe. I don't like Nadia but the fiction that is being written about her is beyond parody....pure fabricated conjecture.
amyawake
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“It'll be destroyed if she gets evicted because of it.

She's still there and could still win, stranger things have happened. Be afraid!”

Yes agree...if Perez leaves this Friday, she still has time to shine.
amyawake
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“What a load of old tripe. I don't like Nadia but the fiction that is being written about her is beyond parody....pure fabricated conjecture.”

Yes indeed...it is excessive - so much so that a thread bitching about her had to be closed!
cantos
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by aggielane:
“You have to wonder if Katie H hadn't gone in the house if Nadia would be as annoyed by Perez as everybody else is”

I think if Katie Hopkins had not been in the house then Nadia would not have allied herself to Perez.

By having such a chip on her shoulder about Katie before she went in she had to join forces with Perez who then turns out to be more obnoxious than Katie H.
Scarlett Berry
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Yes indeed...it is excessive - so much so that a thread bitching about her had to be closed!”

Really. Wow...
Dr Z
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“So, Nadia went into the BB house, with an absolute hatred of Katy Hopkins and all that she stands for.

After a very short while she realises that Perez & Katie hate each other - they are not going to get on at all - but she finds Perez entertaining, as do quite a few of the housemates and thinking that the viewers will too decides to befriend Perez.

But Perez becomes more and more the gameplayer and as he does, the housemates that had befriended him start to give him some distance - and as his antics gets worse realise that Katie was right from the off.

But Nadia, thinking Perez was her way of getting to Katie (because she's a coward and can't do it herself) is left with Perez and is now stuck in the position of defending him.”

Spot on! Although I think that even her despising of KH in the first place was to get the populist vote.
Pete_Lashmar
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“Spot on! Although I think that even her despising of KH in the first place was to get the populist vote.”

I don't disagree, as someone who is happy to tell the world how much of a BB fan she is, she thinks she can read what the viewers like and hate - but has made a huge miscalculation here.
danny_gamer
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“So, Nadia went into the BB house, with an absolute hatred of Katy Hopkins and all that she stands for.

After a very short while she realises that Perez & Katie hate each other - they are not going to get on at all - but she finds Perez entertaining, as do quite a few of the housemates and thinking that the viewers will too decides to befriend Perez.

But Perez becomes more and more the gameplayer and as he does, the housemates that had befriended him start to give him some distance - and as his antics gets worse realise that Katie was right from the off.

But Nadia, thinking Perez was her way of getting to Katie (because she's a coward and can't do it herself) is left with Perez and is now stuck in the position of defending him.”

Agree with this completely. Good post.
Jules_Thornley
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Er...coward? She dislikes conflict and tries to dispel it...but, more relevantly, she told Hopkins on the first day that they were totally different. That's what I call laying your cards on the table right there. She doesn't want to stoop to Hopkins level and have a bitch session...do you recall last night when she said she wasn't going to give her blood? There's the reason.

However, I agree that she is somewhat stuck with Perez now though....maybe just till Friday. (Hoping he will get booted).”

She thrives on conflict. It's a chance for her to have some relevance and showcase her 'peace-keeping' skills..
gulliverfoyle
19-01-2015
as a smug lefty liberal she couldnt choose to ally with Katie H so went for Perez

she backed the wrong horse
milliejo
19-01-2015
Patsy is sticking by Nadia and Perez, but she gets none of the stick....Katie is bullying in a playground way, with her gang. She always wanted to get to Nadia. I have no idea if Nadia would have sided with Perez without Katie in the house. I do think that Nadia would always allied herself with anyone but Katie.

Nadia has a regular tv job, she has never been a publicity seeker, so she has nothing to gain other then the money. Katie on the other hand has become unemployable on TV and if she wasn't in the house, would have damaged her career further with tweets on terrorism. Philip Scofield threw her under a bus a few weeks ago...she was so vile.

Perez is annoying but he is never going to work on British TV and will return to LA...all while Katie is being shown as someone with a bad temper and a playground mentality, in a gang....That is also a mistake because she has allied herself with people that are irrelevent in this country.
amyawake
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“She thrives on conflict. It's a chance for her to have some relevance and showcase her 'peace-keeping' skills..”

No you are so wrong. One of the Loose Women (who knows her well) has said she dislikes conflict, HENCE why she tries to calm things down!!! If she loved conflict she would have risen to Hopkin's bait last night. Instead Nadia managed to abstain and say that she would not give her the blood...remember?
S_J1
19-01-2015
I do think Perez is using her as part of his master plan. I think she was more powerful than she is and the strain of it all is beginning to get to her. She blames Katie for all yet her choice was to do/say what she is. Like attracts like, so there must be a bit of Perez in her for her to be attracted to his personality.

I think Perez needs to get away from her, she does encourage him with her praise of how funny he is, he craves things like this, To me it looks like this has aged her and drained her. She has a choice to make now, so its up to her. She needs to change tactics.
droogiefret
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“What a load of old tripe. I don't like Nadia but the fiction that is being written about her is beyond parody....pure fabricated conjecture.”

The typical argument seems to go:

Nadia went in with a game plan to bring down Katie - isn't doing it and therefore is a coward, hypocrite, two faced etc etc

But this 'game plan' only exists in the minds of people who don't like her. I've not heard Nadia say anything about trying to bring down Katie - I have heard her say she is doing her best not to get drawn into a confrontation that can only increase Katie's brand.

I actually think the slanging match is inevitable - but not because Nadia has a game plan - it will happen because Katie will bait bait bait until she gets the fishwife slanging match she longs for.
MACTOWIN
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“So, Nadia went into the BB house, with an absolute hatred of Katy Hopkins and all that she stands for.

After a very short while she realises that Perez & Katie hate each other - they are not going to get on at all - but she finds Perez entertaining, as do quite a few of the housemates and thinking that the viewers will too decides to befriend Perez.

But Perez becomes more and more the gameplayer and as he does, the housemates that had befriended him start to give him some distance - and as his antics gets worse realise that Katie was right from the off.

But Nadia, thinking Perez was her way of getting to Katie (because she's a coward and can't do it herself) is left with Perez and is now stuck in the position of defending him.”


Agree have been saying similar for days she has ruined her own experience and now she has taking to hiding in Toilets.
Jules_Thornley
19-01-2015
Katie H has only really vented frustration at those encouraging the antics of Perez. I don't think Katie has bullied anyone. Bullies are much more clever and don't usually outright vent their feelings to people's faces. Katie does vent her frustrations to the person that is irking her. She isn't a bully. She makes her voice heard directly even if you don't agree with what she says.

Nadia is a bit more secretive on the other hand..
MACTOWIN
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by droogiefret:
“The typical argument seems to go:

Nadia went in with a game plan to bring down Katie - isn't doing it and therefore is a coward, hypocrite, two faced etc etc

But this 'game plan' only exists in the minds of people who don't like her. I've not heard Nadia say anything about trying to bring down Katie - I have heard her say she is doing her best not to get drawn into a confrontation that can only increase Katie's brand.

I actually think the slanging match is inevitable - but not because Nadia has a game plan - it will happen because Katie will bait bait bait until she gets the fishwife slanging match she longs for.”

How can there be a slanging match when Nadia hides in Toilet. Face facts she is Chicken.
Jules_Thornley
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“No you are so wrong. One of the Loose Women (who knows her well) has said she dislikes conflict, HENCE why she tries to calm things down!!! If she loved conflict she would have risen to Hopkin's bait last night. Instead Nadia managed to abstain and say that she would not give her the blood...remember?”

Perhaps I should rephrase that then.. She loves other people's conflict. It's a chance to showcase her 'peace keeping' skills
She's too eager to be involved to not want confrontation..
Anyway, why else is she on loose women?! Attention seeking, gossip, confrontation.. She loves the debate and making judgements...
Truth Teller
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“So, Nadia went into the BB house, with an absolute hatred of Katy Hopkins and all that she stands for.

After a very short while she realises that Perez & Katie hate each other - they are not going to get on at all - but she finds Perez entertaining, as do quite a few of the housemates and thinking that the viewers will too decides to befriend Perez.

But Perez becomes more and more the gameplayer and as he does, the housemates that had befriended him start to give him some distance - and as his antics gets worse realise that Katie was right from the off.

But Nadia, thinking Perez was her way of getting to Katie (because she's a coward and can't do it herself) is left with Perez and is now stuck in the position of defending him.”

I was just thinking the same thing - though it will only be finally destroyed when she is evicted me thinks......
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