She thinks some sexual energy is going on between the two more from Kavs side...but he won't because Perez is hated. Strange really...and this is coming from an expert on Body Language.
Judy on BOTS analysis of Kav and Perez...
Bit presumptuous of her I thought
She more or less said that Kav was only angry with Perez because he secretly fancies him
... and she got all that from the way Kav was holding that fluffy duster thing
She more or less said that Kav was only angry with Perez because he secretly fancies him
... and she got all that from the way Kav was holding that fluffy duster thing
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Bit presumptuous of her I thought
She more or less said that Kav was only angry with Perez because he secretly fancies him
... and she got all that from the way Kav was holding that fluffy duster thing”
“Bit presumptuous of her I thought
She more or less said that Kav was only angry with Perez because he secretly fancies him
... and she got all that from the way Kav was holding that fluffy duster thing”
He may fancy him. Alcohol issues in the past he has a self destruct button.
Did she explain why he had absolutely NO other reason to be angry with him.
Originally Posted by Scout66:
“The unqualified and non educated Judy talks complete bollocks.”
“The unqualified and non educated Judy talks complete bollocks.”
And that's all there is to it
Originally Posted by EvieJ:
“He may fancy him. Alcohol issues in the past he has a self destruct button.”
“He may fancy him. Alcohol issues in the past he has a self destruct button.”
Also they have been there a little while now - needs must I guess! Mind you I had to laugh when Kav was stroking the truth stick and Judy said what she said. Made me crease up. Some of the stuff she comes out with at times can be spot on. She has predicted todays mood in the house won't last and that bit about food being the motivator to get on was the reason they have makes sense. Sometimes I don't agree with her comments but sometimes they make sense to me. She isn't however a qualified psychologist and calls herself a body language expert.
Originally Posted by EvieJ:
“He may fancy him. Alcohol issues in the past he has a self destruct button.”
“He may fancy him. Alcohol issues in the past he has a self destruct button.”
Does he ?
I know nothing of his past ( or the pasts of any of them come to that )
You think there might be something in the suggestion that the real reason for Kav's anger toward Perez is that he fancies him ?
Originally Posted by jobielad:
“Also they have been there a little while now - needs must I guess! Mind you I had to laugh when Kav was stroking the truth stick and Judy said what she said. Made me crease up. Some of the stuff she comes out with at times can be spot on. She has predicted todays mood in the house won't last and that bit about food being the motivator to get on was the reason they have makes sense. Sometimes I don't agree with her comments but sometimes they make sense to me. She isn't however a qualified psychologist and calls herself a body language expert.”
“Also they have been there a little while now - needs must I guess! Mind you I had to laugh when Kav was stroking the truth stick and Judy said what she said. Made me crease up. Some of the stuff she comes out with at times can be spot on. She has predicted todays mood in the house won't last and that bit about food being the motivator to get on was the reason they have makes sense. Sometimes I don't agree with her comments but sometimes they make sense to me. She isn't however a qualified psychologist and calls herself a body language expert.”
That task was designed to foster group cohesion. The next one may not, as the expert she would be involved in task design wouldn't she. Its not all work experience making the decisions, psychology is VERY much used to enable the script to play out.
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Does he ?
I know nothing of his past ( or the pasts of any of them come to that )
You think there might be something in the suggestion that the real reason for Kav's anger toward Perez is that he fancies him ?”
“Does he ?
I know nothing of his past ( or the pasts of any of them come to that )
You think there might be something in the suggestion that the real reason for Kav's anger toward Perez is that he fancies him ?”
If Perez had been sweetness and light Id say probably. They're all angry with Perez because of the things he's done, why shouldn't Kav be angry for the same reasons even if he does fancy him.
I found Perez quite cute when he was sat next to Kav all innocent when he caught off guard being asked all those questions 
Originally Posted by EvieJ:
“That task was designed to foster group cohesion. The next one may not, as the expert she would be involved in task design wouldn't she. Its not all work experience making the decisions, psychology is VERY much used to enable the script to play out.”
“That task was designed to foster group cohesion. The next one may not, as the expert she would be involved in task design wouldn't she. Its not all work experience making the decisions, psychology is VERY much used to enable the script to play out.”
There has always been controversy around psychologists being involved in BB since episode 5 and unless things have changed they don't seem to involve the psychologists in tasks etc. Here is an article which you may like. If you do a search to see what the British Psychological Society says about Psychologists and BB it makes interesting reading. I am using BB but also include CBB in this. I reckon if psychologists had been deeply involved in the selection process perhaps Jeremy Jackson may not have entered in the first place given his previous alchol/addiction issues as he certainly wasn't in control of his drinking during his stay in the house.
Prof Wilson left after "fight night" this is his article
http://www.theguardian.com/media/200...rother.comment
Originally Posted by Scout66:
“The unqualified and non educated Judy talks complete bollocks.”
“The unqualified and non educated Judy talks complete bollocks.”
True, JJ is at best a crowd pleaser!
Originally Posted by EvieJ:
“He may fancy him. Alcohol issues in the past he has a self destruct button.
”
“He may fancy him. Alcohol issues in the past he has a self destruct button.
”
OK, having dismissed it out of hand, I've now given it some thought
There is something a bit irrational about Kav suddenly becoming very vocal in his anger toward Perez ... yes, yes, I know there's plenty of reasons to be annoyed with him, but there has been something a bit over-the-top about Kav's anger ( Perez hasn't clashed with him personally at all as far as I'm aware )
Then there's Kav's obsession with getting Alicia away from Perez ... what is that about ? I mean it's not as if he and Alicia are particularly close and he is genuinely concerned for her
Seeing as Judy James has 'put it out there' now, could it be that Kav, as the only other gay man in the house, is feeling slighted that Perez has never sought out his friendship or support ?
What do you think ?
Originally Posted by jobielad:
“There has always been controversy around psychologists being involved in BB since episode 5 and unless things have changed they don't seem to involve the psychologists in tasks etc. Here is an article which you may like. If you do a search to see what the British Psychological Society says about Psychologists and BB it makes interesting reading. I am using BB but also include CBB in this. I reckon if psychologists had been deeply involved in the selection process perhaps Jeremy Jackson may not have entered in the first place given his previous alchol/addiction issues as he certainly wasn't in control of his drinking during his stay in the house.
Prof Wilson left after "fight night" this is his article
http://www.theguardian.com/media/200...rother.comment”
“There has always been controversy around psychologists being involved in BB since episode 5 and unless things have changed they don't seem to involve the psychologists in tasks etc. Here is an article which you may like. If you do a search to see what the British Psychological Society says about Psychologists and BB it makes interesting reading. I am using BB but also include CBB in this. I reckon if psychologists had been deeply involved in the selection process perhaps Jeremy Jackson may not have entered in the first place given his previous alchol/addiction issues as he certainly wasn't in control of his drinking during his stay in the house.
Prof Wilson left after "fight night" this is his article
http://www.theguardian.com/media/200...rother.comment”
Thanks I'll have a read when I'm less tired, I will enjoy it I'm sure
I'm sure I remember one of them explaining the design of the house in an attempt to create an atmosphere and encourage certain reactions more recently than 2005. And I also think a similar discussion was had about the tasks. Id be surprised if they haven't advised, even if not on a daily basis. Its a social experiment.
Originally Posted by Marie4eva:
“I found Perez quite cute when he was sat next to Kav all innocent when he caught off guard being asked all those questions”
“I found Perez quite cute when he was sat next to Kav all innocent when he caught off guard being asked all those questions
”
I think there is a bit of a spark there.
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“OK, having dismissed it out of hand, I've now given it some thought
There is something a bit irrational about Kav suddenly becoming very vocal in his anger toward Perez ... yes, yes, I know there's plenty of reasons to be annoyed with him, but there has been something a bit over-the-top about Kav's anger ( Perez hasn't clashed with him personally at all as far as I'm aware )
Then there's Kav's obsession with getting Alicia away from Perez ... what is that about ? I mean it's not as if he and Alicia are particularly close and he is genuinely concerned for her
Seeing as Judy James has 'put it out there' now, could it be that Kav, as the only other gay man in the house, is feeling slighted that Perez has never sought out his friendship or support ?
What do you think ?”
“OK, having dismissed it out of hand, I've now given it some thought
There is something a bit irrational about Kav suddenly becoming very vocal in his anger toward Perez ... yes, yes, I know there's plenty of reasons to be annoyed with him, but there has been something a bit over-the-top about Kav's anger ( Perez hasn't clashed with him personally at all as far as I'm aware )
Then there's Kav's obsession with getting Alicia away from Perez ... what is that about ? I mean it's not as if he and Alicia are particularly close and he is genuinely concerned for her
Seeing as Judy James has 'put it out there' now, could it be that Kav, as the only other gay man in the house, is feeling slighted that Perez has never sought out his friendship or support ?
What do you think ?”
You make sense! Maybe he thought perez would be his gay buddy. It would be awkward to see them have a relationship since they're too opposite but opposites attract!
Originally Posted by EvieJ:
“Thanks I'll have a read when I'm less tired, I will enjoy it I'm sure
I'm sure I remember one of them explaining the design of the house in an attempt to create an atmosphere and encourage certain reactions more recently than 2005. And I also think a similar discussion was had about the tasks. Id be surprised if they haven't advised, even if not on a daily basis. Its a social experiment.”
“Thanks I'll have a read when I'm less tired, I will enjoy it I'm sure
I'm sure I remember one of them explaining the design of the house in an attempt to create an atmosphere and encourage certain reactions more recently than 2005. And I also think a similar discussion was had about the tasks. Id be surprised if they haven't advised, even if not on a daily basis. Its a social experiment.”
This was probably Prof Geoff Beatty who was resident until 2010 on BB but he later was sacked by Manchester University because he breached their policies. I think he is or was in the process of trying to sue them but he doesn't work on BB nowadays. There has always been an issue between the Bristish Psychological Society and BB's ethics with contestants and this also makes interesting reading too if you are in the mood later
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-28869604
Originally Posted by Marie4eva:
“I found Perez quite cute when he was sat next to Kav all innocent when he caught off guard being asked all those questions”
“I found Perez quite cute when he was sat next to Kav all innocent when he caught off guard being asked all those questions
”
It'd would take more than that for me to describe Perz as cute based on his usual behaviour.
But, thinking about it, we've seen very very little interaction between them so far. Is that because it hasn't happened or have BB have edited it out. Saving it for a romance story when they need a break from the mayhem perhaps.
Is that why Judy focused on that particular clip?
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“OK, having dismissed it out of hand, I've now given it some thought
There is something a bit irrational about Kav suddenly becoming very vocal in his anger toward Perez ... yes, yes, I know there's plenty of reasons to be annoyed with him, but there has been something a bit over-the-top about Kav's anger ( Perez hasn't clashed with him personally at all as far as I'm aware )
Then there's Kav's obsession with getting Alicia away from Perez ... what is that about ? I mean it's not as if he and Alicia are particularly close and he is genuinely concerned for her
Seeing as Judy James has 'put it out there' now, could it be that Kav, as the only other gay man in the house, is feeling slighted that Perez has never sought out his friendship or support ?
What do you think ?”
“OK, having dismissed it out of hand, I've now given it some thought
There is something a bit irrational about Kav suddenly becoming very vocal in his anger toward Perez ... yes, yes, I know there's plenty of reasons to be annoyed with him, but there has been something a bit over-the-top about Kav's anger ( Perez hasn't clashed with him personally at all as far as I'm aware )
Then there's Kav's obsession with getting Alicia away from Perez ... what is that about ? I mean it's not as if he and Alicia are particularly close and he is genuinely concerned for her
Seeing as Judy James has 'put it out there' now, could it be that Kav, as the only other gay man in the house, is feeling slighted that Perez has never sought out his friendship or support ?
What do you think ?”
He could fancy him, lots of people go for the bad guys.
From what Chloe sais about Kav not behaving any differently, I don't think there is anything sudden about his feelings. And maybe he was just offering Alicia some good advice without saying it in the way others have like Chami.
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“OK, having dismissed it out of hand, I've now given it some thought
There is something a bit irrational about Kav suddenly becoming very vocal in his anger toward Perez ... yes, yes, I know there's plenty of reasons to be annoyed with him, but there has been something a bit over-the-top about Kav's anger ( Perez hasn't clashed with him personally at all as far as I'm aware )
Then there's Kav's obsession with getting Alicia away from Perez ... what is that about ? I mean it's not as if he and Alicia are particularly close and he is genuinely concerned for her
Seeing as Judy James has 'put it out there' now, could it be that Kav, as the only other gay man in the house, is feeling slighted that Perez has never sought out his friendship or support ?
What do you think ?”
“OK, having dismissed it out of hand, I've now given it some thought
There is something a bit irrational about Kav suddenly becoming very vocal in his anger toward Perez ... yes, yes, I know there's plenty of reasons to be annoyed with him, but there has been something a bit over-the-top about Kav's anger ( Perez hasn't clashed with him personally at all as far as I'm aware )
Then there's Kav's obsession with getting Alicia away from Perez ... what is that about ? I mean it's not as if he and Alicia are particularly close and he is genuinely concerned for her
Seeing as Judy James has 'put it out there' now, could it be that Kav, as the only other gay man in the house, is feeling slighted that Perez has never sought out his friendship or support ?
What do you think ?”
i think michelle has been in Kav's ear trying to get him to stand up to perez and straighten him out man to man. I see kav as unhappy and uncomfortable. I dont believe that talk with perez was his own idea.
Kav wants the mommy approval from teh older women In my opinion. He Happened to be holding a large honesty stick out away from his body. Phallic my butt, how else would you hold soemthing like that??
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“i think michelle has been in Kav's ear trying to get him to stand up to perez and straighten him out man to man. I see kav as unhappy and uncomfortable. I dont believe that talk with perez was his own idea.
Kav wants the mommy approval from teh older women In my opinion. He Happened to be holding a large honesty stick out away from his body. Phallic my butt, how else would you hold soemthing like that??”
“i think michelle has been in Kav's ear trying to get him to stand up to perez and straighten him out man to man. I see kav as unhappy and uncomfortable. I dont believe that talk with perez was his own idea.
Kav wants the mommy approval from teh older women In my opinion. He Happened to be holding a large honesty stick out away from his body. Phallic my butt, how else would you hold soemthing like that??”
Tbf, he was pretty gobby on the big reunion.
