and you seem to have an unhealthier issue with me..
now stop being silly and getting your BP up...Cami isnt a nice person.. shes a loudmouth that I would never want to meet...not just me who thinks this way about the young erm lady.

Well I wont judge her on her looks but it is not nonsense, ones looks can change dramatically once their personality shines through, I have to say that I thought Cami was a stunner on opening night, lovely bone structure and beautiful smile...........and yet i do find her good looks have rather faded somewhat with her foul personality coming to the fore, they way she snarls and spits out insults reminds me of those sharp toothed creatures from Dr Who, cant recall what they were called but now that is how I see her.

Ha ha, I really don't. I merely see some of the more ridiculous posts on the internet and comment on them.

I know full well you're not the only one who does it, but that's not an excuse. There is a massive different between not liking someone and those (and I am not saying you) who call her a skank or a hooker or try and make out she is ugly, which is absurd.

I am not picking on you, you just happened to post and be a perfect example of what I was talking about. Nothing personal at all, so assuming I don't get jumped on by you or one of her detractors, i am happy to leave it here.

PS, my blood pressure if perfectly fine- the day I get hett up over a reality tv show being discussed on a celebrity forum is the day my keyboard goes in the bin.

It is very true that someone's looks can be spoilt by the personality underneath and vice versa - sometimes a plain person with a sunny disposition can be beautiful.

In the case of Katie Hopkins ...........well - there is no hope for her really

mine isnt Di\abolus but nothing to do with DS or you its just opinions on a forum not WW3 , we just differ on this girl who has annoyed me since BB started... shes too loud for me personally.. hope we agree on some other threads

Fair enough Calamity and I'm sorry if you think I've been personal to you., that wasn't my intention, (my comments were more generic) so I'll leave it there for now.

I too hope that we can agree on some other threads and even if you and I disagree on this one, it's always good to have a bit of a debate huh, so no hard feelings and I wish you a pleasant rest of your day.

Peace out.

You really can't claim with any credibility one objective truth about beauty or attractiveness which incidentally happens to be yours. I don't find Cami beautiful at all. She has covered herself with those awful tattoos and she screeches and screams, pulling all sorts of ugly faces. Not pleasant to watch.

thanks Diabolus and peace back..

I get that beauty is subjective but the kind of claims/ statements I am referring to are as ludicrous as me saying that I believe Cheggers is now far better looking than than 'ugly' 'skank' Calum as Calum is a nasty tattoed guy who bullies Alicia and exhibits bad behaviours. (I don't of course think this).

I would expect to be laughed out of town if I came up with nonsense like that, and rightly so.

Would you believe someone who told you they thought Cheggers was better looking than Calum? I mean come on now.

Damn, I was meant to be going, and then I got sucked right back in. Right I've said my piece, and will just be repeating myself, so hopefully am done here and will leave you guys to it,. Happy posting and am not ignoring people if I don't reply btw.

Michelle made a comment that 'he's a good looking guy but knows it' I think even she has had history with him

He has been playing it safe and remaining quite reserved - sitting back and watching the fireworks, whilst keeping his own nose clean.

Calum has a HUGE ego though, and god forbid anybody who would challenge him or step up to him in an argument - the real Calum would quickly emerge, quite like it did when Cami had a joke with him over his trainers and he threw his toys out of the pram.

His impressions of Alicia eating were funny, but mean - to the delight of Cami. The fact he is friendly with the nastier ones in the house, says a lot. Even if not involved, one is still endorsing that kind of behaviour by backing them.

He was very quick to defend Jeremy after 'gown/boob-gate' and shouted louder than he has all series at Perez in frustration, screaming 'He thought she had a bathing suit on underneath'.

I remember seeing him in a show called 'Calum, Fran and Dangerous Danan' a few years ago on ITV2. He was engaged in a bitter feud with Paul Danan and spent the majority of the show trying to put him down and alienate him. He was quite nasty at times, and always had to be right, about everything. That's the real Calum Best, and the one we may start to see as time goes by.

Calum did come across as a real nasty bloody git in last night's show. An absolute pig.

I like Callum, very charming, down to earth and handsome guy. No wonder the ladies love him.

My mother used to say 'pretty is as pretty does' and this woman is in no way pretty! Neither is Calum good-looking. His personality is non-existent and his talent is zero. Furthermore his eyes bulge when he gets a frisson of excitement

Agreed. my mother used to say 'handsome is as handsome does' which makes Calum pretty ugly now.

I think he's been a bit shady to Alicia for no reason, do they have history?

He is a tw*t I think more and more a this show goes on.

He is not good looking, I dont find him attractive I fine him sleazy and very slimy / greasy

I was quite liking him until last night. when he acted (along with Kami) in a most despicable manner.

i AGREE WITH HIM I CANNOT STAND PEOPLE EATING WITH THEIR MOUTHS OPEN.

He's better now than when he was on Love Island

I was watching the show at lunchtime today while OH was reading the newspaper so I was quite surprised when he suddenly looked up and said " that bloke is a bully. " I had to agree with him.

Oh yeah he seems a really great guy, making fun of women with learning difficulties - sounds like a catch!

I went off Calum too. There's more toxicity there than he showed at first.