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To those who think Alicia is not a bit thick..
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Fanntastik
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by irishcyke:
“Oh do you have psychic powers? How do you know know what everyone on here thinks about Davidson on Hopkins? Are you tracking all our posts?”

Yes I am. Would you like me to give you next week's lotto numbers?
Mrs Checks
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“So far we have had people saying she was abused, has dyslexia, has a mental illness, has Body Dysmorphic Disorder, Anorexia, what next ?

It seems like some people think that she has everything wrong with her.”

We have had links proving she was abused and has dyslexia.

It is possible to recognise the signs of BDD and potentially disordered eating in her too (and others on the forum, including myself, have experience with this).

Perhaps you are just not able to make the link between these points and her behaviour, past and present? That's your perogative, but don't assume others are just throwing out conditions to excuse her. Many of us said we felt she might struggle with these issues from the first night.
Rhumbatugger
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“Interesting that some people have a problem with Alicia in the documentary but no problem with some of the disgusting things Katie Hopkins has said in the past. Or Jim Davidson from the past series.”

Perhaps they have serious, debilitating mental conditions caused by bad experiences. It's made them bitter and impatient. Lots of 'anger issues' manifest in different ways. They can't help it.

It might even be a sign of their innate sensitivity, we just don't know.

And other bull.

I'm not giving Alicia some sort of pass for being a self obsessed, gold digging, unprincipled fool.

She's on a bloody reality show, and she's not a child.
riverside 57
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Perhaps they have serious, debilitating mental conditions caused by bad experiences. It's made them bitter and impatient. Lots of 'anger issues' manifest in different ways. They can't help it.

It might even be a sign of their innate sensitivity, we just don't know.

And other bull.

I'm not giving Alicia some sort of pass for being a self obsessed, gold digging, unprincipled fool.”

I think I love you Very well said
hendoll
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by irishcyke:
“No, you're being naive. I've worked with people who have learning disabilities that know their shapes. She's playing up to the cameras.”

She's very very good at it, if so. I don't think she was talking about circles and triangles but the more complex ones. I bet you a lot of money that there are plenty of people who have absolutely no idea what an octagon looks like. Many of them will be posting on here....
Fanntastik
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Perhaps they have serious, debilitating mental conditions caused by bad experiences. It's made them bitter and impatient. Lots of 'anger issues' manifest in different ways. They can't help it.

It might even be a sign of their innate sensitivity, we just don't know.

And other bull.

I'm not giving Alicia some sort of pass for being a self obsessed, gold digging, unprincipled fool.

She's on a bloody reality show, and she's not a child.”

Were you okay with Jim Davidson winning and do you support Katie Hopkins this series?
Rhumbatugger
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“Were you okay with Jim Davidson winning and do you support Katie Hopkins this series?”

I never watched JD, I don't particularly like KH either, and Alicia is bloody irritating.

It's me issues, I can't help it.
hendoll
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Perhaps they have serious, debilitating mental conditions caused by bad experiences. It's made them bitter and impatient. Lots of 'anger issues' manifest in different ways. They can't help it.

It might even be a sign of their innate sensitivity, we just don't know.

And other bull.

I'm not giving Alicia some sort of pass for being a self obsessed, gold digging, unprincipled fool.

She's on a bloody reality show, and she's not a child.”

Yow, nice reality check. Thank you! I still can't dislike her though. Suppose this is why BB is still so popular, we just can't help ourselves analysing and judging etc.
riverside 57
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“Were you okay with Jim Davidson winning and do you support Katie Hopkins this series?”

I was delighted Jim Davidson won, and I'm not minding Katie Hopkins half as much as I thought I would this series, in fact I enjoy her some of the time.

Is there some kind of prize or punishment for this?

Or can you give me some kind of psychological analysis about it?
Dexter Fan1
20-01-2015
I've gone off her after tonight. Not because of the shape/ alphabet thing. Not because of the boob job thing.

Because she disappointed me when she said she would choose Perez to go. After everything he's done for her. One of the only people to help her when she was going through a tough time. Also, I can't remember his exact words but before the first eviction in the bathroom, he said to Alicia "you're not going because they're going to see what a wonderful, caring, smart, beautiful, talented woman you are" or something like that.

How can Alicia just throw that friendship away? Yes, maybe Perez didn't talk to her for like what? A day? Maybe Alicia should've went to him for once instead of Perez always striking up a conversation.

It's very sad and unfortunate that she would immediately forgive Katie Hopkins for all the horrible things she's said. She's joining the mean girls gang and ditching her old friends.

A very foolish move to make.
Fanntastik
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“I was delighted Jim Davidson won, and I'm not minding Katie Hopkins half as much as I thought I would this series, in fact I enjoy her some of the time.

Is there some kind of prize or punishment for this?

Or can you give me some kind of psychological analysis about it?”

I'm just wondering because a lot of people are criticizing Alicia's past but yet will support Katie Hopkins and Jim Davidson who've also said horrible things in the past. Seems hypocritical. Either don't bring up their past or judge all the HMs on it.
honeythewitch
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“There is no proof that she has a mental disability at all. Watch the show about her trying to push her daughter into plastic surgery. She isn't ill, she is just selfish.

And i never said Dyslexia was making her stupid either, i just said that she was stupid, nothing to do with Dyslexia.

So far we have had people saying she was abused, has dyslexia, has a mental illness, has Body Dysmorphic Disorder, Anorexia, what next ?

It seems like some people think that she has everything wrong with her.”

I think it is well known that she suffers from BDD because she has spoken about it in the past.
Saying she is stupid because she appears stupid is fine, but a dyslexic not knowing the alphabet is not evidence of stupidity.

Originally Posted by hendoll:
“She's very very good at it, if so. I don't think she was talking about circles and triangles but the more complex ones. I bet you a lot of money that there are plenty of people who have absolutely no idea what an octagon looks like. Many of them will be posting on here....”

Yes. I very much doubt that most people can name all of these.... http://colouringpagesonline.com/9283...hapes-3d-blank

Not that we know what type Alicia was referring to.
riverside 57
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“I'm just wondering because a lot of people are criticizing Alicia's past but yet will support Katie Hopkins and Jim Davidson who've also said horrible things in the past. Seems hypocritical. Either don't bring up their past or judge all the HMs on it.”

I have never once brought up Alicia's past, I am judging her solely on being on CBB this series. To be honest, I hadn't heard of her before this, only her name sounded vaguely familiar to me.
SegaGamer
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by honeythewitch:
“I think it is well known that she suffers from BDD because she has spoken about it in the past.
Saying she is stupid because she appears stupid is fine, but a dyslexic not knowing the alphabet is not evidence of stupidity. ”

How many more times ? i never said her being a dyslexic is evidence of her sturpidity. I said she is stupid because she is, not because of her dyslexia.

She seems to suffer from everything, according to some people.
honeythewitch
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dexter Fan1:
“I've gone off her after tonight. Not because of the shape/ alphabet thing. Not because of the boob job thing.

Because she disappointed me when she said she would choose Perez to go. After everything he's done for her. One of the only people to help her when she was going through a tough time. Also, I can't remember his exact words but before the first eviction in the bathroom, he said to Alicia "you're not going because they're going to see what a wonderful, caring, smart, beautiful, talented woman you are" or something like that.

How can Alicia just throw that friendship away? Yes, maybe Perez didn't talk to her for like what? A day? Maybe Alicia should've went to him for once instead of Perez always striking up a conversation.

It's very sad and unfortunate that she would immediately forgive Katie Hopkins for all the horrible things she's said. She's joining the mean girls gang and ditching her old friends.

A very foolish move to make.”

I didn't like it either. Also when Kavana gave her advice about Perez she blabbed a twisted version to the others to turn them against him. She seems sly.
honeythewitch
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“How many more times ? i never said her being a dyslexic is evidence of her sturpidity. I said she is stupid because she is, not because of her dyslexia.

She seems to suffer from everything, according to some people.”

Sorry, Segagamer. It looks as if my post was directed at you, and It wasnt meant to be.
riverside 57
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“How many more times ? i never said her being a dyslexic is evidence of her sturpidity. I said she is stupid because she is, not because of her dyslexia.

She seems to suffer from everything, according to some people.”

Mmm. it is amazing how people will find an underlying medical/mental condition to excuse their favourite's behaviour, whether it's nasty, dopey or diva-like, but anyone they don't like are just plain horrible, and no excuses can be made! Welcome to DS
honeythewitch
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“I have never once brought up Alicia's past, I am judging her solely on being on CBB this series. To be honest, I hadn't heard of her before this, only her name sounded vaguely familiar to me.”

I saw her on love Island (or something?) once but I don't remember her coming across as stupid.
honeythewitch
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“Mmm. it is amazing how people will find an underlying medical/mental condition to excuse their favourite's behaviour, whether it's nasty, dopey or diva-like, but anyone they don't like are just plain horrible, and no excuses can be made! Welcome to DS ”

Well, no. I cant stand her actually.
chipbuttie1
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“please tune in to tonight's highlights to see how wrong you are! Learned her shapes and the alphabet since she started "home schooling" her 3 year old ”

I don't believe she's that thick, maybe she's just playing the 'dumb blonde' role. I actually quite like her really, she seems like a nice person.
johnF1971
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by hendoll:
“She's very very good at it, if so. I don't think she was talking about circles and triangles but the more complex ones. I bet you a lot of money that there are plenty of people who have absolutely no idea what an octagon looks like. Many of them will be posting on here....”

I can just about accept that some adults with a limited education might not know what an octagon is (although there is a big clue in the fact that the word starts with oct!)

But her claim that she dosen't know the alphabet seems a bit far fetched to me. What does that mean exactly? Is she unable to identify and recognize the 26 letters? Can she not read and write then? Or does she just mean she doesn't know the order the letters come in?
munkyfellover
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by NightFalls:
“And you are brain of Britain i take it!? Nobody is perfect and knows everything, i'ts nasty to redicule.”

It's also pretty funny in certain cases like this ^.
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