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Kav and Cheggers have argument
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Vicky8675309
21-01-2015
and look at all the hell Perez got for coughing by Alexander at 6:30 am and later smiling and blowing air kisses
I can't see the links but it sounds like Kav is being OTT ("snipes" at him an others) to Keith.
Boyard
21-01-2015
In fairness Kav is right about Keith taking digs at him. He is seen bitching behind his back in one of those clips about his much he drinks and probably not for the first time. Keith took issue with Kav because he's a slob.
Tissy
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by _Matt:
“It's not the first time Kav's been a miserable drunk.

It did amuse me to see Katie H moan about people starting arguments apparently oblivious to the fact it's nearly always her that does it.”

No self awareness whatsoever!
calamity
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Jungle Cats:
“I knew Cheggers had a dark side

vile man”

why for not liking a mess around him or spit in hankies..
Lucypher
21-01-2015
Posted twice
Lucypher
21-01-2015
Why is anybody surprised? There's been more moans about Keith's fence sitting here than speculation about Katie H.'s live life! Cheggars is himself a nasty drunk, okay, on the wagon at present - but in his day he made his poor wife's life a misery. They used to live near me and he was always in Budgen's buying booze! He has a short memory. Anyway - Kav is only saying what's been said out here from day one. 'Poor Keith'? This is his game! He's bending over backwards to portray himself as the nice guy - even laughing at the maniacal Mario performing sex acts in the garden the other night when it so obviously upset him. Yeah. Rrrright.
cazziekay
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Boyard:
“In fairness Kav is right about Keith taking digs at him. He is seen bitching behind his back in one of those clips about his much he drinks and probably not for the first time. Keith took issue with Kav because he's a slob.”

Glad I'm not the only one who sees it this way. Not that I'm condoning Kav's language but as I said before if it's happening everyday eventually you will react.

He is not the only 'slob' in there. I'm pretty sure Nadia is a self confessed slob too but they are friends and Keith needed a reason to nominate Kav that doesn't sound bad to viewers and if played to hms.

Keith is media savvy too and knows what he is doing. The cheeky Chirpy Chappy doesn't wash with me.
trevor tiger
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“and look at all the hell Perez got for coughing by Alexander at 6:30 am and later smiling and blowing air kisses
I can't see the links but it sounds like Kav is being OTT ("snipes" at him an others) to Keith.”

Yup but it was also noticeable that Katie H tried to play down Kav's antics even though she is clearly not there for most of it 'roll eyes' She made it clear there is only one villain in there who causes all of the trouble which apparently Kav helps to calm. Tell that to Keith
trevor tiger
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by cazziekay:
“Glad I'm not the only one who sees it this way. Not that I'm condoning Kav's language but as I said before if it's happening everyday eventually you will react.

He is not the only 'slob' in there. I'm pretty sure Nadia is a self confessed slob too but they are friends and Keith needed a reason to nominate Kav that doesn't sound bad to viewers and if played to hms.

Keith is media savvy too and knows what he is doing. The cheeky Chirpy Chappy doesn't wash with me.”

Well Kav is drinking every night, being rude regularly when drunk and keeping them up every night as they can't put the lights out. The only one that didn't seem to totally agree was Katie who tbf isn't there at night all of the time and has a vested interest in focusing on only one baddie.
scone
21-01-2015
He seems to turn camp when he's drunk too. Maybe it's his alter ego like when he lectured Mario about Perez, maybe he was recalling his own alter ego, Anthony
Lucypher
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by scone:
“He seems to turn camp when he's drunk too. Maybe it's his alter ego like when he lectured Mario about Perez, maybe he was recalling his own alter ego, Anthony”

He's gay and I expect he turns the campness down most of the time. Although I haven't ever noticed him being particularly camp any time.
Salv*
21-01-2015
Things kicked off in the Celebrity Big Brother 2015 house last night between arguably the two most quiet housemates.

After being provided with booze it was perhaps only a matter of time before a row erupted.

But surprisingly the latest housemate argument was between Keith Chegwin and Kavana.

A VERY drunk Kavana started after getting annoyed at not being able to go to the Diary Room.

He ended up ‘bantering’ with Cheggers, telling him and the other housemates to “f**k off”.

But Kav’s rude drunken personality didn’t please Cheggers who complained: “That really pisses me off… we all have to stay up until he finishes drinking.”

Alicia agreed that Kav had a problem when he drunk, saying that the former 5th Story band member “does get rude”.

“I didn’t like the attitude, the f**k you and all that,” Keith added.

Later, Kavana exploded at Keith after he tried to make amends.

Kav blamed his behaviour on the house but Keith seemed to pin it on the drink.

“It’s not about being sober, it’s about being real,” snapped Kavana. “You’re not being real. You’re perfect aren’t you?

“I apologise for being rude, but you keep having little digs at me, it’s wearing me down,” Kav accused. “Don’t get me started Cheggers.

“Don’t get me f**kng started because I can say a million things about you sitting on the fence every day. You sit on the f**king fence every day!”

As Kavana ranted the other housemates stepped in encouraging him to stop drinking and head to bed.

The singer ended up branding Kieth ‘his new enemy’ as the housemates tucked in for the night.

Celebrity Big Brother 2015 continues nightly on Channel 5.

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So, still nothing on what was said earlier in the day. Just a very drunk Kavana.
CMcKinley
21-01-2015
Nasty little slimeball who can't handle his drink. Met a few of them in my life.
Alrightmate
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Yup but it was also noticeable that Katie H tried to play down Kav's antics even though she is clearly not there for most of it 'roll eyes' She made it clear there is only one villain in there who causes all of the trouble which apparently Kav helps to calm. Tell that to Keith”

I think you're right. Katie H defends Kav because Kav is anti-Perez. He's on her team so she'll forgive him for anything she can get away with forgiving him for.
'Helps to calm Perez' is pretty much a translation for 'is against Perez'.
Hyram Fyram
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Keith also it seems is a bit of a clean freak and was not too happy with the way Kav behaves, not caring how he leaves things and spilling things etc .”

Hardly needs to be a clean freak to object to a slob.
cazziekay
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Well Kav is drinking every night, being rude regularly when drunk and keeping them up every night as they can't put the lights out. The only one that didn't seem to totally agree was Katie who tbf isn't there at night all of the time and has a vested interest in focusing on only one baddie.”

To be clear I agreed Kavs behaviour was wrong.

My point was Keith is a moaner and has been saying things to Kav (his words) from day one. Also in last nights show Keiths nasty dig at Alicia shows he is not quite the Mr nice guy he would like us all to believe ..and some clearly are buying it .. he tends to do it with a smile not a scowl so it's not always obvious.
linmic
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“Why is anybody surprised? There's been more moans about Keith's fence sitting here than speculation about Katie H.'s live life! Cheggars is himself a nasty drunk, okay, on the wagon at present - but in his day he made his poor wife's life a misery. They used to live near me and he was always in Budgen's buying booze! He has a short memory. Anyway - Kav is only saying what's been said out here from day one. 'Poor Keith'? This is his game! He's bending over backwards to portray himself as the nice guy - even laughing at the maniacal Mario performing sex acts in the garden the other night when it so obviously upset him. Yeah. Rrrright.”

Keith has been sober for 20 years so he is not a 'nasty drunk' and I'm absolutely sure he knows and regrets the pain he caused to his ex wife Maggie and their little girl. He has freely admitted to buying booze and hiding it - he's an alcoholic, thats what they do. I respect him all the more for his honesty and managing to control his demons. Kav doesnt seem to have been able to do that yet. I hope for his sake that he does.
Salv*
21-01-2015
To be fair, I'm glad we have seen this from Kavana, it was a long time coming.
johartuk
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Honeysmum:
“Having watched The Big Reunion I've been waiting for this I'm afraid.

We can assume he has gone into the house (as he did TBR) to do something with his career, but having this kind of behaviour it will be unlikely to happen.

I think has issues with drink and we are the spectators. Feel sorry for Cheggers being the object of his rage I hope he realises he was a twit and apologises tomorrow.”

As another person who watched The Big Reunion, I'm surprised it took this long for Kav to have a drunken melt-down!

I suspect that Kav is frustrated that a fellow 'recovering alcoholic' has the self-control that he lacks.
Safi74
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Keith also it seems is a bit of a clean freak and was not too happy with the way Kav behaves, not caring how he leaves things and spilling things etc .”

Why is it that hygienic people are called 'clean freaks'? No, he's not a clean freak, he just doesn't want to live in a dirty tip. Fair play to him I say!
bbcrzy
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Honeysmum:
“Having watched The Big Reunion I've been waiting for this I'm afraid.

We can assume he has gone into the house (as he did TBR) to do something with his career, but having this kind of behaviour it will be unlikely to happen.

I think has issues with drink and we are the spectators. Feel sorry for Cheggers being the object of his rage I hope he realises he was a twit and apologises tomorrow.”


because he doesnt DARE start up with perez
PaleHorse
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by cazziekay:
“To be clear I agreed Kavs behaviour was wrong.

My point was Keith is a moaner and has been saying things to Kav (his words) from day one. Also in last nights show Keiths nasty dig at Alicia shows he is not quite the Mr nice guy he would like us all to believe ..and some clearly are buying it .. he tends to do it with a smile not a scowl so it's not always obvious.”

Well how do you know? We barely saw Kav and Keith interacting on day 1, just as we were barely treated to any footage of them on days 2,3,4 or 5. It's only been little slithers of footage of the two that have slowly filtered their way through the highlight shows, and even then their respective highlights have largely featured them as hardly ever appearing together. The only person who's claimed Keith as ever having little digs at Kav, has been Kav himself. And what were his examples of these "little digs"?

"Oh, what'd do you do last night?" - That's seriously meant to be taken as a provocation of the sort of behaviour that Kav has displayed? No, I don't think so. All you've had is the suspect word of a nasty little drunk, nothing more. And if you were seriously offended by Keith's gentle little chiding of Alicia (especially in comparison to the witless but no less harsh words of Katie Hopkins), then I seriously think you need to get out more, quite frankly.
cazziekay
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by PaleHorse:
“Well how do you know? We barely saw Kav and Keith interacting on day 1, just as we were barely treated to any footage of them on days 2,3,4 or 5. It's only been little slithers of footage of the two that have slowly filtered their way through the highlight shows, and even then their respective highlights have largely featured them as hardly ever appearing together. The only person who's claimed Keith as ever having little digs at Kav, has been Kav himself. And what were his examples of these "little digs"?

"Oh, what'd do you do last night?" - That's seriously meant to be taken as a provocation of the sort of behaviour that Kav has displayed? No, I don't think so. All you've had is the suspect word of a nasty little drunk, nothing more. And if you were seriously offended by Keith's gentle little chiding of Alicia (especially in comparison to the witless but no less harsh words of Katie Hopkins), then I seriously think you need to get out more, quite frankly.”

Calm down it's only a reality show you don't need to get so excited.
I made my opinion by the examples I have given and my perspective from what I have seen. As everybody else has. Just because Kavana was drunk does not mean it's not true. The same as Keith claiming they can't go to bed until late because of Kav. There has been no footage to back that up either.

I never mentioned Katie Hopkins in my post either so whatever problem you have with her discuss it with someone who actually defended her not me.

So you take your view and form your opinion as will I. There is no need to be insulting because I have a different opinion to you.
xXxAnneAxXx
21-01-2015
Frig frig and frig again.
I hoped this wouldn't happen with Kav but feared it would 😡 he cannot and should not drink and dang well he knows it.
Sober Kav is a lovely kind funny man.
Drunk Kav is loud, aggressive and needs a good slap.
He needs to apologise for being an arse, stay away from the demon drink and avoid Hopkins like the plague (vile creature)
PaleHorse
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by cazziekay:
“Calm down it's only a reality show you don't need to get so excited.”

There's no need to tell me to calm down, I'm sitting at a laptop and calmly typing out my reply. I've no clue as to why you presume that others on the internet are mindless wilder beasts who are just barely able to abstain from ripping the keys out of their keyboard. Projecting much?

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“I made my opinion by the examples I have given and my perspective from what I have seen. As everybody else has.”

Yes, the difference being that your perspective was based on viewings that apparently only you have been privy to.

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“Just because Kavana was drunk does not mean it's not true. The same as Keith claiming they can't go to bed until late because of Kav. There has been no footage to back that up either.”

Keith was sober when he said that. Not only that, but no one around the kitchen table voiced any disagreement or words to the contrary. So I think it's safe to presume that Keith was telling the truth. What would have to gain by lying in a group of people who share the same living space, and are aware of the general time the lights go out?

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“I never mentioned Katie Hopkins in my post either so whatever problem you have with her discuss it with someone who actually defended her not me.”

I was using her as a point of reference, in order to point out how much of a non-event Keith's apparent rudeness was. I didn't claim you defended her.

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“So you take your view and form your opinion as will I. There is no need to be insulting because I have a different opinion to you.”

It wasn't an insult so much as a hearty recommendation. You're welcome.
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