To be fair (and I'm not a fan,) whenever she DOES have a go at anyone, there is a valid reason. Kav was just being a boorish, angry drunk lashing out.

Keith comes across as a really level-headed guy, I feel sorry for him having to deal with so many misfits in there

In the first video Kav is pissed and being a bit obnoxious. He tells Cheggars and the rest to 'f' off not totally joking. Cheggars and Alicia agree he gets drunk every night, keeps them up until 1 or 2 and is rude and annoying. Katie seems to think otherwise and says he deserves his place because of how he has dealt with other difficult people

And yet Katie defended him Hmm

Well minus the drunk bit Hmm

Like all of us I suppose. We lean towards our favourites and support their decisions, and alternately, we sometimes criticise those we dislike unfairly.

I remember thinking Eric Cantona had a point when he karate kicked that pillock in the crowd. We all have a tendency to support those we love.

So true. As normal we are only getting half the story each night.

I thought they were all going to bed early but seems not.

I've barely seen Katie and Kav talk I think it's more about anyone but Perez, Alicia and Nadia and fear at losing control if anyone on her side goes rogue.

Again though, quite a human trait?

To be honest, I think Kav was only speaking the truth about Keith. He's playing the biggest game of the lot of them. Remaining neutral, sitting on the fence, not causing offence to anyone. Playing nice with everyone in there. He's been in showbiz that long that he's a seasoned pro and must know the way the public react to people. That's what he's built his career on. So there's no way he doesn't know exactly what he's doing in that house. Remaining neutral and sitting on the fence won't make him win, and it doesn't make a great housemate. Either get involved or get out.

Yes Kav was a complete mess on that programme and showed himself up big time. Likes his drink too much. However, Cheggers should know not to engage a drunk in an argument/conversation, especially at bed time, as it gets no-one anywhere. Cheggers is one of my favourites and it seems to me that he is just being himself. When Kav sobered up I imagine he was grovelling, full of apologies and begging forgiveness - either that or he'll say he can't remember anything about it.

Keith handled that really well. Kav clearly has issues.

On a side-note it really irritates me how the word 'real' gets bandied around as a positive spin on 'pushy and obnoxious'. That silly girl from Little Mix used it to describe Helen in the civilian BB last year. These people don't seem to realise that some people are naturally level-headed, open-minded and reasonable and are as 'real' as showy, grandstanding, screaming harpies.

I'm not sure why Kavana says that Keith sits on the fence when Keith has apparently approached Kavana and had a word with him about the drinking at night.
Sounds like a stock accusation housemates make to someone after they've seen previous series of BB.

And even if Keith does sit on the fence, what's it to Kavana? Who's he to tell people how they should behave? If Keith isn't harming anybody then what's the problem?
Act like a big fat showoff like Perez = Bad behaviour.
Quietly mind your own business and be rational and calm = Bad behaviour.

In that house I'd count my blessings if Keith acted how he does. If you're going to complain about people like Perez creating all sorts of drama in there, you can't really complain about housemates for being well behaved as well.

Of course we do sutie, we're all guilty of that but I genuinely try never to critisise anyone just because I dislike them. And I am willing to see flaws in the housemates that I do support. Thats where the madness of DS comes in, sometimes housemates seem to be able to do no wrong on here.

Do you think I am trying to suggest that Katie isn't human

Everything we see on CBB is from or about a human trait I suppose but this particular human trait is a negative one.

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...ant-every-word

Kav says he meant every word.........however, good luck with trying to figure out the conversation. I think none of them have their mics on.

Team Nasty goes from strength to strength.

Storm in a tea cup, Keith should have let it be when Kav asked to leave it till the morning, Kav shouldn't drink so much if he is can't stay civil when drunk.

I'm sure Kav will be embarrassed and apologise in the morning, and Cheggers will accept and they will move on.

I had literally just read a thread on here suggesting that Kav is the least camp gay man that has ever been on BB, and I have to say I agreed, I didn't even realise he was gay.

...Then I watch this and he comes across as a right camp little diva!

I also remember that episode of the Big Reunion. Adam Rickett was saying how Kav was an aggressive drunk and making out like he was a bigger star than everyone else. Don't forget he appeared on The Voice in 2013 and nobody turned round.He also came out as gay last year which passed me by. Obviously got a few issues and drink brings them out,

I didn't realise he was gay until last night. Gaydar needs a service.

Ah, The Voice disappointment explains why he's a bit miffed with the world.

Quite the opposite.

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...ant-every-word

Agreed. I don't think I've ever liked a housemate who uses phrases like "sitting on the fence" and "I tell it like it is."