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Kav gets insulting and rude **SPOILER**
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Blue Eyed lady
21-01-2015
Finally we're getting to see the real Kav, he was a whiny, sniveling mess on The Big Reunion & from that clip he certainly hasn't changed.
I don't blame Kieth one bit for getting slightly p***ed off, there's nothing worse than a loud, annoying & inconsiderate drunk especially when you're stone cold sober.
PaleHorse
21-01-2015
Funny how you don't see Katie rushing up to Kav, sticking her huge conk in his face and groaning "You don't mess with the little man"

Maybe that's only when Perez does something offensive to someone.
xXxAnneAxXx
21-01-2015
I'm so disappointed that Kav is mixing with horse chops Hopkins. she's a vile and despicable person, I wanted him to mix with the happy people, the good people (although to be fair they would be hard to find in that hellhole)
I'm a big fan of his and hoped he'd Have the strength to avoid alcohol in there, he's know he cannot and should not drink, it brings out the worst in him.
I can only hope he realises, or someone tells him he was a drunken arse and has the wit to avoid it from now on. If he has a 'downfall' in there it will be his inability to refrain from taking alcohol.
sandy50
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Blue Eyed lady:
“Finally we're getting to see the real Kav, he was a whiny, sniveling mess on The Big Reunion & from that clip he certainly hasn't changed.
I don't blame Kieth one bit for getting slightly p***ed off, there's nothing worse than a loud, annoying & inconsiderate drunk especially when you're stone cold sober.”

Especially with Keith's past - which makes it even more inconsiderate and unnecessary of him to do that to Keith. BB are providing the alcohol though, and according to Keith, Kav gets drunk every night and becomes rude and insulting.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/k...-booze-4998117
sandy50
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by PaleHorse:
“Funny how you don't see Katie rushing up to Kav, sticking her huge conk in his face and groaning "You don't mess with the little man"

Maybe that's only when Perez does something offensive to someone.”

She said something about Kav in that VT, but I don't think some of them had realised that Keith was getting really fed up with Kav on the booze ! And what Perez did to Alexander was very different,and as a result he walked. Perhaps more will be shown tonight on Kav and Keith.
sandy50
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by xXxAnneAxXx:
“I'm so disappointed that Kav is mixing with horse chops Hopkins. she's a vile and despicable person, I wanted him to mix with the happy people, the good people (although to be fair they would be hard to find in that hellhole)
I'm a big fan of his and hoped he'd Have the strength to avoid alcohol in there, he's know he cannot and should not drink, it brings out the worst in him.
I can only hope he realises, or someone tells him he was a drunken arse and has the wit to avoid it from now on. If he has a 'downfall' in there it will be his inability to refrain from taking alcohol.”

This incident is the only thing he has done that's generated any discussion about him - he's been a non entity so far in that House.
sandy50
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by sootysoo:
“To be honest, I think Kav was only speaking the truth about Keith. He's playing the biggest game of the lot of them. Remaining neutral, sitting on the fence, not causing offence to anyone. Playing nice with everyone in there. He's been in showbiz that long that he's a seasoned pro and must know the way the public react to people. That's what he's built his career on. So there's no way he doesn't know exactly what he's doing in that house. Remaining neutral and sitting on the fence won't make him win, and it doesn't make a great housemate. Either get involved or get out.”

I don't think Keith has anything in common with any of them in there, so he's remained neutral as the arguments he's seeing don't involve him. It was shown that he was giving Perez the time of day, but once Perez had taunted Alexander, Keith told Perez he didn't want to talk to him any more. I don't think Keith is playing a game at all, he just seems to be a really nice guy, I've not read one bad word said about him since he's been in there, which is unusual for CBB contestants.
kimindex
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Keith handled that really well. Kav clearly has issues.

On a side-note it really irritates me how the word 'real' gets bandied around as a positive spin on 'pushy and obnoxious'. That silly girl from Little Mix used it to describe Helen in the civilian BB last year. These people don't seem to realise that some people are naturally level-headed, open-minded and reasonable and are as 'real' as showy, grandstanding, screaming harpies.”

Applause!
PaleHorse
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“She said something about Kav in that VT, but I don't think some of them had realised that Keith was getting really fed up with Kav on the booze ! And what Perez did to Alexander was very different,and as a result he walked. Perhaps more will be shown tonight on Kav and Keith.”

Yes, she said something in defence of Kav. Totally the opposite to her childishly bolshy response to the situation involving Perez and Alexander.
xXxAnneAxXx
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“This incident is the only thing he has done that's generated any discussion about him - he's been a non entity so far in that House.”

To be fair there have been quite a few 'non entities' up till recently. The gobshites have hogged all the air time.
I've seen Kav frequently chatting and laughing but always in the background, the producers seem to think we all want to see and hear nastiness, arguments and bitching so that's what they choose to show.
sandy50
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by PaleHorse:
“Yes, she said something in defence of Kav. Totally the opposite to her childishly bolshy response to the situation involving Perez and Alexander.”

Didn't she say Kav has been really good at diffusing arguments etc, but then either Keith or Callum said something about Kav and Katie then said she hadn't realised, and she said when Kav shouted out " F all of you" (WTTE) that she'd never heard him behave like that before, and then Alicia and Keith said Kav gets drunk every night and is rude and insulting, so think some of those HMs do miss things going on in that house incredibly !
Rough Diamond
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by sootysoo:
“To be honest, I think Kav was only speaking the truth about Keith. He's playing the biggest game of the lot of them. Remaining neutral, sitting on the fence, not causing offence to anyone. Playing nice with everyone in there. He's been in showbiz that long that he's a seasoned pro and must know the way the public react to people. That's what he's built his career on. So there's no way he doesn't know exactly what he's doing in that house. Remaining neutral and sitting on the fence won't make him win, and it doesn't make a great housemate. Either get involved or get out.”

I think Keith is a nice guy but I agree from what I have seen in the video Kav may be speaking the truth,Keith knows the chances of a BB winner being the good guy has a good chance of winning,he has been on the BBBOTS panel loads and he does sit on the fence a lot,Kav has done what a lot of people do when they have had a drink they start getting mouthy, some are saying Kav drinks every night perhaps he has a problem with drink and if so Keith should identify with this as he is an alcoholic I know he has been dry for a long time and thats brilliant,maybe Keith has been getting little digs at Kav because why would he say it.if he does go I would say it is because he is not entertaining enough not because of his arguement with Keith.
MC_Satan
21-01-2015
Was he the one who got so smashed he jeopardised the concert on the boyband show? Then got told of by Adam Rickett of all people? I only saw a clip of that show.
revolver44
21-01-2015
Kav... tedious when sober and a bellend when drunk.

Try and find some nice middle ground dude, seriously
sandy50
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by revolver44:
“Kav... tedious when sober and a bellend when drunk.

Try and find some nice middle ground dude, seriously”


Shame he wasn't up for Eviction, he'd go for sure.
Cami-Li next pleeeaassseee
Rough Diamond
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by xXxAnneAxXx:
“I'm so disappointed that Kav is mixing with horse chops Hopkins. she's a vile and despicable person, I wanted him to mix with the happy people, the good people (although to be fair they would be hard to find in that hellhole)
I'm a big fan of his and hoped he'd Have the strength to avoid alcohol in there, he's know he cannot and should not drink, it brings out the worst in him.
I can only hope he realises, or someone tells him he was a drunken arse and has the wit to avoid it from now on. If he has a 'downfall' in there it will be his inability to refrain from taking alcohol.”

Who are the happy people in there
EvieJ
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Katie was clearly defending Kav after he kicked off in the kitchen. Apparently he deserves his place there because he has calmed so many arguments from difficult people. Katie is the final arbiter of who is allowed to kick off, who is actually difficult and who can get special dispensation from criticism.”

Good on her for defending someone calmly.

We are seeing the bits of Kav that BB wants us to see, when they want us,to see them. We haven't seen much of his other behaviour, but now we'll be drip fed his bad. He is a pain when drunk but his only nom was from Keith and that was for being untidy so he must have some good qualities.
sandy50
21-01-2015
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...ant-every-word
** SPOILER VT**
Kav says he meant every word - after his row with Keith that he sits on the fence !!!

eww , don't like the guy at all.

Michelle says she won't protect Kav from audience perception !
PERILLA
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“Was he the one who got so smashed he jeopardised the concert on the boyband show? Then got told of by Adam Rickett of all people? I only saw a clip of that show.”

Yes, that's him. He's very nasty when drunk.
anne_666
21-01-2015
Jeez imagine the simmering cauldron of withdrawal and rage he sits on all day long until the booze lets it all out! Nasty individual.
Self assertion classes and AA needed.
EvieJ
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...ant-every-word
** SPOILER VT**
Kav says he meant every word - after his row with Keith that he sits on the fence !!!

eww , don't like the guy at all.

Michelle says she won't protect Kav from audience perception !”

I thought she said she wants to protect him rather than won't?

Anyway, Kavs,entitled to his opinion and admits its how he feels.

No suggestion of apologising for how he said it though which I the real problem.
sandy50
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by EvieJ:
“I thought she said she wants to protect him rather than won't?

Anyway, Kavs,entitled to his opinion and admits its how he feels.

No suggestion of apologising for how he said it though which I the real problem.”

ah, it wasn't very clear was it.

Kav said they're officially enemies now.
Oh dear.
EvieJ
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“ah, it wasn't very clear was it.

Kav said they're officially enemies now.
Oh dear.”

He didn't seem to remember it did he.
Salv*
21-01-2015
Can we merge the two threads together? As both threads have quite a lot of replies
Mastes1
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“It shows you how much we 'don't' get to see, because from what Keith says in that VT, Kav is drinking every night - and disturbing the HMs, Keith especially from going to sleep at night - Kav seems to have been very carefully edited, because until now he seemed rather dull and quiet to me ! And Keith having a history of problems with alcohol, no wonder he's so affected by Keith's behaviour.”

I have said this before but i honestly don't understand how people can vote on this show, watch it and enjoy it yeah for sure but to vote on a show that is being manipulated and scripted to get the viewers to like and hate certain housemates and to get the viewers to spend money and voting for who Channel 5 want you to.

it just doesn't make sense, its like spending money to bet on a WWE Wrestling match.
People are being used and being made a mug of, yet they still vote lol.
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