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Old 29-09-2015, 08:22
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What someone else does doesn't necessarily 'ruin [someone's] life so much', but many people are uncomfortable with the historical connotations of changing to your husband's name on marriage.
"Hatred" is quite some way away from "uncomfortable". Hating something suggests a far greater personal impact than either "dislike" or what you describe as being "uncomfortable". It appeared incongruous in the context of something which has no personal impact on you whatsoever.

Why should someone else's choices bother you personally - regardless of the historical tradition of changing surnames on marriage? As the law stands, women can choose to either retain or change their name on marriage. All that should concern you is how you would be affected personally if you were a woman faced with that choice on marriage. I really can't see why another woman's choice should affect your life one way or another.
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Old 29-09-2015, 08:24
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They could consider renaming the trophy "The Clifterball".
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Old 29-09-2015, 08:28
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Steady now. You'll be told this has nothing to do with Strictly and therefore you mustn't discuss such things on here (I think it's interesting though!)
Quite right too!

I am genuinely surprised how many people think changing your name on marriage is simply a sweet thing to do because you really love your husband and want to world to know it, but don't seem to know how or why this tradition evolved.
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Old 29-09-2015, 09:54
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Yep, not new at all - I'm assuming you know the historical inplications of it, and can therefore understand why some people don't agree with the tradition?
Some people should then do what they are comfortable with and allow others do as it suits them .
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Old 29-09-2015, 10:25
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Some people should then do what they are comfortable with and allow others do as it suits them .
Absolutely. Who has suggested otherwise? A previous poster stated that they 'hated' it when women changed their names on marriage; someone asked 'why?'; I pointed out that there are valid reasons why some take a negative view of the tradition of a woman adopting a man's name.

No one on the thread has actually said that anyone shouldn't be 'allowed' to do it - or have I missed a post?
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Old 29-09-2015, 10:30
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Absolutely. Who has suggested otherwise? A previous poster stated that they 'hated' it when women changed their names on marriage; someone asked 'why?'; I pointed out that there are valid reasons why some take a negative view of the tradition of a woman adopting a man's name.

No one on the thread has actually said that anyone shouldn't be 'allowed' to do it - or have I missed a post?
Pity the original poster couldnt explain him/herself better . To hop on a thread and proclaim they hate something is bound to rile people .To each his own is my motto when its not bothering anyone else why would they hate it .,
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Old 29-09-2015, 11:02
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They could consider renaming the trophy "The Clifterball".
Like it! 😁
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Old 29-09-2015, 11:15
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Pity the original poster couldnt explain him/herself better .- To hop on a thread and proclaim they hate something is bound to rile people .To each his own is my motto when its not bothering anyone else why would they hate it .,
That was probably the whole point of their post. If something seems deliberately goady, you can bet it's because the poster is being deliberately goady
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Old 29-09-2015, 11:51
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Pity the original poster couldnt explain him/herself better . To hop on a thread and proclaim they hate something is bound to rile people .To each his own is my motto when its not bothering anyone else why would they hate it .,
Can I just say for the avoidance of doubt that I am not likely to be riled by such a comment... Bemused perhaps - but certainly never riled.
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Old 29-09-2015, 12:43
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That was probably the whole point of their post. If something seems deliberately goady, you can bet it's because the poster is being deliberately goady
If a duck quacks !! True , very true .
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Old 29-09-2015, 12:44
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They could consider renaming the trophy "The Clifterball".
Love it .
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Old 29-09-2015, 13:40
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Quite right too!

I am genuinely surprised how many people think changing your name on marriage is simply a sweet thing to do because you really love your husband and want to world to know it, but don't seem to know how or why this tradition evolved.
it's not always done out of 'sweetness' - I changed my name on getting married because I hated my birthname. So much so that when we divorced, I kept my married name rather than go back to the hated one.
It was a choice not being a "chattel" - anyone who knows me would laugh at that thought
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Old 29-09-2015, 14:11
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Considering most people use their father's surname prior to marriage it is only changing one bloke's name for another's anyway. I used my mother's surname for many years but then again she got it from her dad.
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