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the debate task is the beginning of the end of the coven
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Dave_62
21-01-2015
The end of Hopkins and her sidekicks.

Perez has already exposed them, now all the other housemates are seeing it.

Michelle is probably just easily led or has decided to be Hopkins other half to protect herself from being bullied by her aswell. The bitter girls and kav have picked the wrong person in cheggars. It's the end if the house cowering down to Hopkins and her coven.
hisdogspot
21-01-2015
Going for Keith was a dumb move

What's the old saying ... give 'em enough rope
Chit_Chat15
21-01-2015
No one's cowering. That's the thing. At least, not the targets of their insults anyway. So well done to them all.
oathy
21-01-2015
Michelle really will regret this move what a let down I expected a Sassy American no holds barred. this non stop shadowing of Hopkins is just depressing. I suspect her "knowledge" of all things British isn't as good as she says if she thinks Katie bloody Hopkins is the epitome of all things British
scout2006
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“The end of Hopkins and her sidekicks.

Perez has already exposed them, now all the other housemates are seeing it.

Michelle is probably just easily led or has decided to be Hopkins other half to protect herself from being bullied by her aswell. The bitter girls and kav have picked the wrong person in cheggars. It's the end if the house cowering down to Hopkins and her coven.”

The reaction of the followers to Perez's comment about 'any tactic to survive being a good tactic' (wtte) was very interesting. Katie and, to a lesser extent, Michelle were not amused at the reaction to that comment.
Dave_62
21-01-2015
Hopkins has more or les just told the house, there will be no peace, she will bully whoever she wants and they will enjoy it because she is only being honest and direct. After all, they all love her, like the public love her. Jordan made that very clear by saving her.
CLL Dodge
21-01-2015
Coven is such a misogynistic term. This isn't the 17th century.
scout2006
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by oathy:
“Michelle really will regret this move what a let down I expected a Sassy American no holds barred. this non stop shadowing of Hopkins is just depressing. I suspect her "knowledge" of all things British isn't as good as she says if she thinks Katie bloody Hopkins is the epitome of all things British ”


But to be fair to Michelle, she was expecting Katie to be a complete bitch, whereas Katie has been nothing but nice to her.

Michelle and Nadia are in very similar positions in the house, Michelle clearly had history with Perez and doesn't like him in the same way that Nadia doesn't like Katie. As a result of their dislikes they have found themselves on opposing sides. Had Perez and Katie not been in the house I think Michele and Nadia would have been really good mates in there.
calamity
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“The end of Hopkins and her sidekicks.

Perez has already exposed them, now all the other housemates are seeing it.

Michelle is probably just easily led or has decided to be Hopkins other half to protect herself from being bullied by her aswell. The bitter girls and kav have picked the wrong person in cheggars. It's the end if the house cowering down to Hopkins and her coven.”

Hopkins likening herself to Maggie Thatchers shows her Hubris Syndrome.. where her arrogance makes her think she is above all others, everything she says will be listened to and agreed with.. Most dictators had this syndrome..and she has it...time this woman is brought down. her watery eyes at compliments were also fake.. she uses people.. and Michelle is in her web.. Hubris consists in doing or saying things that cause shame to the victim, Hopkins thinks by ill treating others it will make her own superiority greater, even in the game where she was the leader, she tried to disgrace both Perez and Nadia giving them things to do to shame them... it didnt seem to work though and why she got so annoyed at the housemates all getting along and laughing..
anne_666
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“The end of Hopkins and her sidekicks.

Perez has already exposed them, now all the other housemates are seeing it.

Michelle is probably just easily led or has decided to be Hopkins other half to protect herself from being bullied by her aswell. The bitter girls and kav have picked the wrong person in cheggars. It's the end if the house cowering down to Hopkins and her coven.”

I agree. It was very revealing indeed. I wish we could see all of it and I wonder how much makes it into the main show.
scout2006
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Hopkins likening herself to Maggie Thatchers shows her Hubris Syndrome.. where her arrogance makes her think she is above all others, everything she says will be listened to and agreed with.. Most dictators had this syndrome..and she has it...time this woman is brought down. her watery eyes at compliments were also fake.. she uses people.. and Michelle is in her web.. Hubris consists in doing or saying things that cause shame to the victim, Hopkins thinks by ill treating others it will make her own superiority greater, even in the game where she was the leader, she tried to disgrace both Perez and Nadia giving them things to do to shame them... it didnt seem to work though and why she got so annoyed at the housemates all getting along and laughing..”

Thatcher was brought down by the very people who put her there in the first place.
Dave_62
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Coven is such a misogynistic term. This isn't the 17th century.”

No it's not. Your association of witches as a woman only thing, most certainly is though.
hoppyuppy
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“No it's not. Your association of witches as a woman only thing, most certainly is though.”

You are talking warlocks.
Dave_62
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by hoppyuppy:
“You are talking warlocks.”

No, i'm talking witches. Witches have covans. Not all witches are female.
Fanntastik
21-01-2015
I said this in another thread: the moment Katie and her side-kicks turn their vitriol against someone other than Perez, they'll lose the show.

Ganging up on Keith was the dumbest move they could have made.
calamity
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Fanntastik:
“I said this in another thread: the moment Katie and her side-kicks turn their vitriol against someone other than Perez, they'll lose the show.

Ganging up on Keith was the dumbest move they could have made.”

but didnt he do well..... must have left them stinging...
Super Frog
21-01-2015
American Horror Story: Hopkins
EnricoIV
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“But to be fair to Michelle, she was expecting Katie to be a complete bitch, whereas Katie has been nothing but nice to her.

Michelle and Nadia are in very similar positions in the house, Michelle clearly had history with Perez and doesn't like him in the same way that Nadia doesn't like Katie. As a result of their dislikes they have found themselves on opposing sides. Had Perez and Katie not been in the house I think Michele and Nadia would have been really good mates in there.”

But I thought Michelle was the savior of all the "other people." Surely that must mean she has the ability to see what's going on further than the end of her own nose (which as of now is firmly implanted up Katie's butt). She must be able to see that what Katie is doing is treating others in an appalling manner.

Maybe it's just that her view is obstructed. By Katie's butt.
hoppyuppy
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“No, i'm talking witches. Witches have covans. Not all witches are female.”

Male witches are warlocks, trust me.
greenyone
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Coven is such a misogynistic term. This isn't the 17th century.”

Coven is very apt for those witches
calamity
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by hoppyuppy:
“Male witches are warlocks, trust me.”

I thought that too seems not according to this though... http://www.palgrave.com/page/detail/...=9780230537026
Graceland
21-01-2015
As a matter of interest, what was Pricey doing all this time I wonder ?
considering she was the one that saved her..................
Tissy
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Graceland:
“As a matter of interest, what was Pricey doing all this time I wonder ?
considering she was the one that saved her..................”

Wondering where Switzerland is and if there is a sandals resort there for her to get married at?
anne_666
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Graceland:
“As a matter of interest, what was Pricey doing all this time I wonder ?
considering she was the one that saved her..................”

She was there. I don't believe for one second that it was her choice to save Katie H..

Always think viewing figures especially when noms are messed with.
anne_666
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“Wondering where Switzerland is and if there is a sandals resort there for her to get married at?”

And sparkly things lots of sparkly things. Oh and pink everywhere.
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