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Report: The Apple Watch Will Only Last 2.5 Hours With "Heavy" Use
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alanwarwic
13-03-2015
Some things don't quite add up.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pho...54912/review/6

With that original G Watch using a IPS screen you get 2 days usage with the screen on, be it a low setting.

That means with a 10 second screen like on the Apple watch, 3 + days sounds the norm.
psionic
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Some things don't quite add up.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pho...54912/review/6

With that original G Watch using a IPS screen you get 2 days usage with the screen on, be it a low setting.

That means with a 10 second screen like on the Apple watch, 3 + days sounds the norm.”

Physically larger batteries I would have thought?

http://9to5mac.com/2015/03/12/look-h...-wear-watches/
alanwarwic
13-03-2015
400mah I think in that LG one.
Almost sounds like Apple have designed their to have a replacement battery every 12 months. Another massive earner.

Makes me wonder what the battery replacement service is like on the Moto 360, that being only a 1 day + battery.
calico_pie
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“400mah I think in that LG one.
Almost sounds like Apple have designed their to have a replacement battery every 12 months. Another massive earner.”

Massive? To put that in some context what sort of % of Apple's revenue would you imagine it to be?

Is there a reason you assume every single decision Apple make about money is about maximising profit? Other than everything just being some Apple conspiracy of course.

You mean, like this?
alanwarwic
13-03-2015
Yes. Less=more.

But didn't I hear the argument that directors have top maximise shareholder revenues, not that I agreed with it at the time.

Strangely, I recall them claiming 1000 charges for some of their products,
It would be especially useful for that watch.
psionic
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Yes. Less=more.

But didn't I hear the argument that directors have top maximise shareholder revenues, not that I agreed with it at the time.

Strangely, I recall them claiming 1000 charges for some of their products,
It would be especially useful for that watch.”

Having to change the battery every 3 years is not really a problem surely? Besides it's highly likely the overwhelming bulk of sales will be for the cheapest models, and a sizeable chunk of those users will consider upgrading every couple of years. As there will no doubt be an improved version by then.
calico_pie
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Yes. Less=more.

But didn't I hear the argument that directors have top maximise shareholder revenues, not that I agreed with it at the time.

Strangely, I recall them claiming 1000 charges for some of their products,
It would be especially useful for that watch.”

So should Apple be using some of these special batteries that last forever?
alanwarwic
15-03-2015
I think the Samsung watch only has a 200mah battery but it uses a high tech non commodity screen.
alanwarwic
16-03-2015
http://androidphonehub.com/connected...e-apple-watch/

" Currently available through a Kickstarter campaign the smartwatch saw its number of pre-orders almost tripled the day after the announcement of the Apple Watch."

The Apple Watch announcement tripled interest in the new Pebble. Maybe due to the 'overpriced' reaction but more likely that knock on 'watches interest'.

http://androidphonehub.com/connected...ast-350-euros/
Pricing of Huawei one has gone on an upward path to €350, no doubt inspired by the fact that it has the look of being the high end one, even in comparison to the LG and the 360.
IvanIV
19-03-2015
I was making fun of the Apple Watch and God had punished me. It looks like I will have to develop an app for it I'll try to ask for the gold version for testing Maybe we could do something with MS Band, too, not to wander off too far from the MS fold.
kidspud
19-03-2015
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“I was making fun of the Apple Watch and God had punished me. It looks like I will have to develop an app for it I'll try to ask for the gold version for testing Maybe we could do something with MS Band, too, not to wander off too far from the MS fold.”

Why not just say no
IvanIV
19-03-2015
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“Why not just say no”

Do you refuse to do things often at work? And I actually do not mind that much, it's nice to learn new things.
kidspud
19-03-2015
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“Do you refuse to do things often at work? And I actually do not mind that much, it's nice to learn new things.”

Well, I have a very understanding boss (me), so I choose what work I do
alanwarwic
19-03-2015
https://www.motorola.co.uk/motomaker?pid=FLEXR3

So, stainless steel case is standard (I'm not exactly sure why anyone would want the same stuff they make tin cans out of), the gold finish is an extra £50.
For the watch strap (band) 22mm leather is standard whilst metal is in 18,23 or 24mm at another extra £30.

£280 is a heck of a lot, even for the gold design. Any guesses on the scrap gold value of these watches ? I'll go with zero on this one.
IvanIV
19-03-2015
Well, I'd rather tin cans finish, I find gold vulgar
kidspud
19-03-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“https://www.motorola.co.uk/motomaker?pid=FLEXR3

So, stainless steel case is standard (I'm not exactly sure why anyone would want the same stuff they make tin cans out of), the gold finish is an extra £50.
For the watch strap (band) 22mm leather is standard whilst metal is in 18,23 or 24mm at another extra £30.

£280 is a heck of a lot, even for the gold design. Any guesses on the scrap gold value of these watches ? I'll go with zero on this one.”

You really should stop beating yourself up over the price.

That screen looks a little weird with the cutout at the bottom.
kidspud
19-03-2015
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“Well, I'd rather tin cans finish, I find gold vulgar ”

Agreed, I like white gold, but 'gold' gold is not to my tastes.
Stiggles
22-03-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“I think the Samsung watch only has a 200mah battery but it uses a high tech non commodity screen.”

300mah the Samsung has.

Even with that, I too my shock today, have just managed 3 days out mine with minimal use. I forgot to charge it and picked it up to out in when I went to work at 11pm last night and it still had 24% left. Its sitting now on 9%.
Stiggles
22-03-2015
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“Agreed, I like white gold, but 'gold' gold is not to my tastes.”

Agreed. I just yesterday picked a white gold wedding ring for our big day. The Mrs typically picked a yellow gold one!
Mandark
26-03-2015
The app development is interesting to me. Just as you can take advantage of the uniqueness of the watch interface.
alanwarwic
27-03-2015
The actual marketing of the apps in development is exactly why the watch will do well, even if much of it happens to be at the old standard of £50 Android watches.

Look at the 'half a message' iMessage, and the 'don't bother if you are off-line' Siri.
It simply does not matter if the marketing is good.
calico_pie
27-03-2015
So that's it - the only difference between the Apple watch and other devices is the marketing?

Absolutely no other differentiating factors? At all?

You're right though - Apple haven't figured out how to get a long message on a small screen, or how to provide up to date information about things without being online.
Inspiration
27-03-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“So that's it - the only difference between the Apple watch and other devices is the marketing?

Absolutely no other differentiating factors? At all?”

The build quality will be better which is important with a wearable device. It won't be everyones cup of tea but I imagine when people get their hands on the Apple Watch and examine it close up they'll feel it's a very well constructed watch.. which is no surprise because it's Jony Ive's work.

Then theres the user experience which again will be personal preference but I think people will feel the Apple Watch offers a very good user experience. Especially when paired together with the iPhone. Apple has always felt their overall user experience is a defining factor.

If you simply compare specs then sure theres no difference but then there isn't with the phones. The differences are found elsewhere.
kidspud
27-03-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“The actual marketing of the apps in development is exactly why the watch will do well, even if much of it happens to be at the old standard of £50 Android watches.

Look at the 'half a message' iMessage, and the 'don't bother if you are off-line' Siri.
It simply does not matter if the marketing is good.”

Is the 'half a message' iMessage the same as the 'hardly works if it's off line' Google voice?
calico_pie
27-03-2015
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“The build quality will be better which is important with a wearable device. It won't be everyones cup of tea but I imagine when people get their hands on the Apple Watch and examine it close up they'll feel it's a very well constructed watch.. which is no surprise because it's Jony Ive's work.

Then theres the user experience which again will be personal preference but I think people will feel the Apple Watch offers a very good user experience. Especially when paired together with the iPhone. Apple has always felt their overall user experience is a defining factor.

If you simply compare specs then sure theres no difference but then there isn't with the phones. The differences are found elsewhere.”

I figured as much, and that sounds entirely sensible.

Mind you, just recently I've seen Apple compared to both God and Hitler.

Its very confusing!
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