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I'm glad I kept all my CDs. So many people seem to be getting rid of them now, to 'save space' or whatever.
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All due to our greedy government taxing the proles.
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At least if an actual physical music shop stop stocking a CD they don't take your copy away, unlike iTunes who remove it from your library too.
One good reason to buy physically and not digitally. |
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Amazon now offer an MP3 download of an album when you buy a physical copy. I got Mark Ronson's new album for £6.99 meaning that I can listen to the MP3 download on my iPod now while I wait on the physical to arrive. That's cheaper than buying the album from iTunes and I still get the physical copy too.
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Isn't their premium version cd quality? From their FAQs ...
Spotify uses 3 quality ratings for streaming, all in the Ogg Vorbis format. ~96 kbps Normal quality on mobile. ~160 kbps Desktop and web player standard quality. High quality on mobile. ~320 kbps (only available to Premium subscribers) Desktop high quality. Extreme quality on mobile. 320 kbps is a very good quality compression, but it is not lossless? Correct me if I am wrong
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IMO there is something seriously wrong when the price of a download is greater than the CD. iTunes pricing takes the piss.
I think Amazon have the best idea. Buy a CD, get the download for free. Best of both worlds. Download doesn't really affect me because i'll just rip my own CDs, but if you're lucky Amazon AutoRip occasionally include extra tracks. This is particuarly true of single bundles. ![]() |
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I can understand downloading individual tracks as it's cheaper than buying the CD but if you want the whole album, unless it's much cheaper as a download, you are better off with the CD. It's very easy to get a CD on your phone by using iTunes or similar software on your computer and they are independent of the whims of Apple, Microsoft etc. You also get something physical to collect.
So, I don't know which way I'll go. ATM all my music is ripped CDs, with the odd purchase for CDs I can't access. I have ceased using the iTunes software, apart from the desktop computer that loads my antiquated iPod Classic 160GB with lossless music files.
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Each to their own, but I've never found anything to which I want to listen that wasn't available free on YouTube.
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True. Though I'm past the years of monthly layings-on-the-floor of all my CD cases to re-alphabetise them after my OH has had her merry way with them. And goodness only knows what the kids would now do to them. I certainly like to own the file rather than just have month-by-month access to it. However, the way with Spotify where somebody else compiles the cover artwork, makes sure the recording is filed sensibly in the library etc. makes a streaming library attractive. I think it would be scary for us all to add up how much time we spent on iTunes library maintenance in the first decade of the 2000's.
So, I don't know which way I'll go. ATM all my music is ripped CDs, with the odd purchase for CDs I can't access. I have ceased using the iTunes software, apart from the desktop computer that loads my antiquated iPod Classic 160GB with lossless music files.Now I have every track I'm likely wanting to hear from my CD collection, on a memory stick in the TV. With a decent sound bar, that's all you need. |
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I appreciate that YouTube compresses the tracks, but the quality of the uploads is variable. The same track can be uploaded by several different people using different equipment. Downloaded as an mp3, I can't tell the difference between this and a CD track on my Vintage Hi-Fi.
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I remember those days.
Now I have every track I'm likely wanting to hear from my CD collection, on a memory stick in the TV. With a decent sound bar, that's all you need. ![]() ![]() ![]() Those were good days! *in a misguided burst of nostalgia, pulls down the ladder to the attic* |
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How hard would it be to achieve this utopia? A site that offers monthly access to a massive catalogue of CD (or better) quality music. Unlimited streaming on desktops and mobile devices. Unlimited downloading of files one can keep indefinitely. Sure, users would log in, download a massive month and then upload to torrent sites; but that's what lawyers, the courts and industry-pandering governments are there for.
I mean, pornography has perfected its digital sales model. Why must the music industry lag behind? |
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I don't buy music off iTunes and refuse to buy any digital download unless it's at least 50% cheaper than I can get the physical CD for on principle, as digital pricing should take into account the savings on distribution, printing, manufacturing and storage costs and the fact there's no resale value, collectable value or ability to loan to a friend like with a CD.
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I don't buy music off iTunes and refuse to buy any digital download unless it's at least 50% cheaper than I can get the physical CD for on principle, as digital pricing should take into account the savings on distribution, printing, manufacturing and storage costs and the fact there's no resale value, collectable value or ability to loan to a friend like with a CD.
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I don't buy music off iTunes and refuse to buy any digital download unless it's at least 50% cheaper than I can get the physical CD for on principle, as digital pricing should take into account the savings on distribution, printing, manufacturing and storage costs and the fact there's no resale value, collectable value or ability to loan to a friend like with a CD.
I still think the music industry owes me a fortune from my being overcharged for albums since my teens. |
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Just had a thought. The price rises may signal Apple losing market share. This could herald another wave of innovation in its business model: something it never had an incentive to bring about while in its monopoly position for the past decade or so. Short term pain might be the means to a better end product?
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New EU legislation came in recently meaning you have to pay VAT at the local rate (ie. the UK rate). Previously, you paid VAT at 13.5% because that was the rate in Luxembourg, where iTunes s.a.r.l is based.
- May have something to do with this... |
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How do you actually create a flac file? The only ripper/converter I've found is from Softonic, but I've been advised not to go anywhere near their software.
I know it's the best quality, but the problem I have is that hardly anything except a computer will play the flac format. |
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How do you actually create a flac file? The only ripper/converter I've found is from Softonic, but I've been advised not to go anywhere near their software.
I know it's the best quality, but the problem I have is that hardly anything except a computer will play the flac format. create flac windows create flac mac Good luck
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New EU legislation came in recently meaning you have to pay VAT at the local rate (ie. the UK rate). Previously, you paid VAT at 13.5% because that was the rate in Luxembourg, where iTunes s.a.r.l is based.
- May have something to do with this... Talk about ill-thought out ideas. |
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If you don't want your CDs any more take them to Oxfam. If you are like me you will then buy some while you are there, it's all in a good cause.
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Absolute madness paying for music online. You dont even own anything.
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It depends on what music you're looking for, but there are some real bargains on iTunes. The 2014 remasters of the Who's albums are sonically very good, have loads of bonus tracks, and cost £4.99. Likewise, if you're into oddball jazz, Sun Ra's albums have been remastered and now (apparently) sound better than any previous releases (including the original vinyl), and cost £6.99. Maybe iTunes is overpriced for new pop releases but it's always worth checking for back catalogue and less mainstream music.
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I don't buy music off iTunes and refuse to buy any digital download unless it's at least 50% cheaper than I can get the physical CD for on principle, as digital pricing should take into account the savings on distribution, printing, manufacturing and storage costs and the fact there's no resale value, collectable value or ability to loan to a friend like with a CD.
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So, I don't know which way I'll go. ATM all my music is ripped CDs, with the odd purchase for CDs I can't access. I have ceased using the iTunes software, apart from the desktop computer that loads my antiquated iPod Classic 160GB with lossless music files.