Oh look hundreds of straight people object to what she says

She can say what she likes

If you look through you will see Gay people are saying the same thing.

She's had a hard life. Don't belittle her

many of us have, but we dont go round verbally destroying people

A) Where have i belittled her ?? B) Many people have hard lives but dont go on a one person crusade to the point its patronising.
There is nothing belittling in pointing out facts about someone.

Of course she can, it's usually patronizing cr*p though.She does love her soapbox does old Michelle.

I've very much gone off Michelle since the start, but she's about as far from homophobic as one can be.

Also if Michelle can say what she likes then why cant others

I totally agree with he OP. I find her incredibly cringeworthy and quite toe curling.

As another fm posted earlier it does seem hat she sees gay people as her pets, there is something incredibly childish about her attitude towards them. I doubt she really seems them as fully fledged human beings but rather a walking and talking sexuality.

Don't get me wrong, I am far from homophobic and I support her going on TV and supporting gay rights but I can't stand her execution. I am sure her heart is in the right place but just look at how she uses the term 'gay community'. Just because they are gay does not mean they have everything in common with another gay person. She is just lumping them all together when everyone is different. It does come across as those annoying girls who squeal I would love a gay friend because they think homosexual automatically assume they will take them shopping and are covered in glitter and will take them to see Lady Gaga. I wonder if she realises her mentality of gay people are my friends because all gay people are like this is quite damaging.

I like Michelle going in but can't stand her now, mainly because of how chummy she has got with the walking foghorn Hopkins and her treatment of Alicia. I love the misfits? Yeah right

I don't mind it really. She can take it a bit over the top from time to time but her heart is in the right place. I think she's very passionate and genuinely wants the world to be better and her actions reflect that. She's a very positive role model and the more there are the better.

She might start by being a kinder person to some of her housemates. Her actions are not all sweetness and light to all, so her inclusivity extends to only those she likes.

Role model for what exactly

That's the main reason, why i can't support her. She claims that she wants to fight for the 'misfits' and the vulnerable but disgustingly took delight when tearing down poor Alicia. She's a hypocrite.

She can but she should speak only for herself and not for me or the countless other Gay people who don't give a toss for her or her self aggrandizing.

Well she's a role model for gay rights. I know a lot of posters here have said they don't like to be patronised and thats fine but the reality is that coming out and being gay is still very difficult for a lot of people, even in countries like the UK and USA. I welcome her and straight people like her who are strong vocal figures and advocates. The more the better.

And she gets involved in some bitching in the house. Ring the police. She must be the first ever housemate to do that.

I think these earlier two videos of Michelle's campaigning against Perez and trying to divide the house against him, speak volumes.

Firstly her badgering with Cheggars , a weird concept of house "families" and how genuine she is(again) yawn. Who needs to keep on and on telling everyone that? Mmm. Not a lot of support for a gay gay here, who refuses to behave the way she thinks he should. Did he actually tell her he was fake and manipulative? I've learned now not to believe much that comes out of her mouth.

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-9-pick-side-chegs

Then Callum, the same badgering and spiel.

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-9...nds-perez-fake

2.36 very strange conversation indeed with Callum and probably when he joined the gang. I wonder who else she's made promises of career help to?

No pressure there?

I suspect she's too busy telling us she supports LGBT rights to actually DO something to support us.

Collecting a pay check at a GAY PA or on RuPaul's Drag Race is hardly a Stonewall riot.

Imagine if a man went in saying how much he is supporting straight men of the world. His ass wouldn`t touch them steps as he was thrown out. Double standards

Straight men are not a minority. Not the same thing.

I agree with the OP though.

Straight women aren't either.

Now now, we can't have people just being people or individuals.

I loathe that word and the habit of using it unnecessarily that has crept into broadcasting and public discourse. On BBC Radio 4 for example, it's the farming community. Aaagh. Why can't they just say farmers?

They've probably picked it up from the Americans who generally use it more than we do - or rather, than we used to do.

Straight white British born men who work and don't have kids with multiple women don't smoke and have a quiet life are a minority so I'll be championing their rights!!!!!

There is no gay community really anymore, community to me means secret hidden place.

I'm not homophobic I have gay friends,
I'm not racist we have a black family in our town,
I once saw an old person I couldn't possibly be ageist.

Well Nanny McPhee and the big bang just started, I used to know children when I went to school so I will now watch it.

I think one reason is that some people consider it offensive (or at least rude) to use words such as "gay", "homosexuals", "transgender" (there's quite a long list) as nouns. If you say "gay community" instead, it's an adjective.

(I'm not saying that view re nouns makes sense, just that it's out there.)

Dial down the vitriol please. Especially those who don't care to know what is actually happening to gay people in the UK.
From 2013 Teenager died after being set on fire at his 18th birthday party
From 2014 Gay couple targeted in homophobic attack by teenage gang on east London street
Man jailed for hammer attack on gay flatmate
And from November, last november, 2 months ago. HOMOPHOBIC ATTACK' IN MANCHESTER'S GAY VILLAGE LEAVES RUGBY PLAYER WITH BROKEN JAW



She is a gay icon, it's a fact. She's worked HARD for decades. She doesn't imagine who she is like some people on this forum, she KNOWS who she is. Some viewers don't know who she is and don't care to know. Says more about them than it does about Michelle to me.


Clearly you don't have any idea of what is happening in your own backyard then. A short search turned up several attacks on Gay subjects of the UK, which I've provided at the top of this post. She doesn't need to get the gay vote, she already has it.



Clearly not read the articles above.


You put that very well Veri, thanks. 2 United Kingdoms can fit into just 1 American state, things can take time to resonate through all the states. Each state is different even within an area, like New England. Once the Supreme Court makes a decision though it will be federal law. My recollection is that either Iowa or Idaho was first, because it was embarrassing to progressive states, like mine, who took way too long pass the legislation.


To put things into context, that statement is incorrect.


If you look through one really has no idea who is actually gay and who isn't.
Yes, some claim they are gay or have gay children and one thinks well why would anyone lie about that. I can't answer why but it happens and it happens quite frequently. Something to do with being anonymous, one can be whoever one wants to on the internet. I personally don't believe them if they are attacking Michelle. Doesn't make sense to attack someone so supportive.

Well then the tshirt she wore must have been highly offensive with those words on.

Yes, I absolutely agree. But put simply, it was a different world then requiring different action. In western society now, things are from perfect but there's not the same need for someone outside a minority group to act on its behalf because the group itself has NO voice at all. I'm an Amnesty supporter and there are clearly still occasions when a silenced person or group needs championing by others, but this tends to be in more oppressive regimes (when it's not, it's usually on behalf of a US death row prisoner).

As I said in my original post, there's a need for supporters of all creeds, colours, genders, sexualities etc to come together in solidarity and fight injustice. It says "we're all one", they are not Other. But what I also said is that acting like a self-appointed guardian of a 'community' that you can only ever belong to in kinship rather than reality can be seen as patronising or even preposterous in these more 'free' times.

But I also agree with other posters who said her heart is in the right place on that front.


I like this explanation. It makes a lot of sense.

I also think that 'community' in this context can describe a group with shared aims. So even though a lot of gay people are happily living their lives as individuals and don't like being lumped together, there's a movement still fighting for equality and an end to discrimination because 'we're not there yet'. Michelle obviously identifies with that proactive movement.