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Woman crucified if in bra & knickers. Perez in pants funny?
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Pumping Iron
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“The speed is irrelevant it's more about the accuracy ”

Your accuracy is way off target then
jp761
25-01-2015
Lets face it often it's about who's walking around half naked , rather than the fact that they are half naked.

For example if some hunk is walking around half naked you don't usually see many complaints. Also people usually only complain more when the person already has a "rep" example glamour models.

And finally BB is well known for whatever reason , well known for a lot of walking around half nakedness going on from both males and females over the years.
Dextor_Morgan
25-01-2015
He seems to wear less and gyrate more on Tuesdays and Fridays I wonder why?
planets
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Lets face it often it's about who's walking around half naked , rather than the fact that they are half naked.

For example if some hunk is walking around half naked you don't usually see many complaints. Also people usually only complain more when the person already has a "rep" example glamour models.

And finally BB is well known for whatever reason , well known for a lot of walking around half nakedness going on from both males and females over the years.”

how very true....here's an example to back up your theory and here's another one which one received the most complaints i wonder?
pope_tart
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“Do you mean this sort of thing?”

yes indeed I do he'd get my vote every time
BROXI BEAR
25-01-2015
I really cant stand him, but if it pisses off Hopkins more power to him!
jp761
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“how very true....here's an example to back up your theory and here's another one which one received the most complaints i wonder?”

True i agree. But mind you being fair , i do remember ole David obviously looked good , but remember many women did slag him on here. Saying hes to big and stuff.

But I can think of other hunky guys over the years of BB where no one really complained they went around half naked a lot.
jp761
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by pope_tart:
“yes indeed I do he'd get my vote every time ”

And she'd get my.... vote lol
planets
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by jp761:
“ True i agree. But mind you being fair , i do remember ole David obviously looked good , but remember many women did slag him on here. Saying hes to big and stuff.

But I can think of other hunky guys over the years of BB where no one really complained they went around half naked a lot.”

first name that popped in my head to be honest, even now i'm struggling to think of hunky naked guys....wait there's always THIS a lot of the ladies enjoyed that
jp761
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“first name that popped in my head to be honest, even now i'm struggling to think of hunky naked guys....wait there's always THIS a lot of the ladies enjoyed that ”

I'm struggling but just know it's happened often in like the last 15 years or whatever it is now of BB
Diabolus
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Lets face it often it's about who's walking around half naked , rather than the fact that they are half naked.

For example if some hunk is walking around half naked you don't usually see many complaints. Also people usually only complain more when the person already has a "rep" example glamour models.”

This seems pretty on the money I'd say.

Cami and Calum seem to be a pretty good example of the differing reactions to fairly similar stuff.
jp761
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“first name that popped in my head to be honest, even now i'm struggling to think of hunky naked guys....wait there's always THIS a lot of the ladies enjoyed that ”

They did and I remember it was a close call who they enjoyed seeing more Mr Bussey or Audley lol
Lucypher
25-01-2015
I'm trying hard to think of any male housemate who has stripped down to a thong and proceeded to rub his genitals up and down a window simulating sex in front of a room full of women; nor any male housemate who has stripped down to tight spandex underpants for the eviction show, sitting with his legs thrown apart over the seat while thrusting his penis forward. He is gross, offensive to the eye and nobody compares in terms of deliberately projecting a sexually obscene image of himself.
jp761
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“I'm trying hard to think of any male housemate who has stripped down to a thong and proceeded to rub his genitals up and down a window simulating sex in front of a room full of women; nor any male housemate who has stripped down to tight spandex underpants for the eviction show, sitting with his legs thrown apart over the seat while thrusting his penis forward. He is gross, offensive to the eye and nobody compares in terms of deliberately projecting a sexually obscene image of himself.”

Thats not the point. Dale now comes to mind he sat half naked on eviction nights. No idea what BB that was maybe BB 8 or 9.

Not many people are denying some of the other stuff Perez has done was gross. But the half naked part of this discussion is a different point though.
Lucypher
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Thats not the point. Dale now comes to mind he sat half naked on eviction nights. No idea what BB that was maybe BB 8 or 9.

Not many people are denying some of the other stuff Perez has done was gross. But the half naked part of this discussion is a different point though.”

I don't remember Dale sitting in tight spandex underpants on eviction nights. Anyway, I do get the point of the discussion and yes, I've seen lots of nasty comments about Cami and her mode of dress, and Chloe before that, usually likening them to 'sluts', 'slags', and 'tarts'. There's some pretty closed-minded people who automatically assume a young woman who proudly shows her body in flimsy clothing is morally subversive! Whereas a man is somehow just 'so funny' - or 'eye candy'. I never see the dark association between a man's nakedness and sexual promiscuity that I see applied to young women.
trevor tiger
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“I'm trying hard to think of any male housemate who has stripped down to a thong and proceeded to rub his genitals up and down a window simulating sex in front of a room full of women; nor any male housemate who has stripped down to tight spandex underpants for the eviction show, sitting with his legs thrown apart over the seat while thrusting his penis forward. He is gross, offensive to the eye and nobody compares in terms of deliberately projecting a sexually obscene image of himself.”

That's not true. It wasn't the window in front of a room full of women. It was in the garden but not a window that faced the bedroom where the women were. You're trying to make it sound sinister which it entirely wasn't. It may be gross or unacceptable to some though it is clearly outright hilarious to others BUT I don't see how it can realistically be used in the debate as to whether young women get a worse time than men when they wear next to nothing.

It has to be like with like. If a woman stripped for a laugh then I'm sure the result would be the same as Perez. Some would be horrified and disgusted and some would find the joke and laugh.

However if females just naturally wear little like men a la Calum and Cami then we can more realistically and justifiably compare reactions.
jp761
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“I don't remember Dale sitting in tight spandex underpants on eviction nights. Anyway, I do get the point of the discussion and yes, I've seen lots of nasty comments about Cami and her mode of dress, and Chloe before that, usually likening them to 'sluts', 'slags', and 'tarts'. There's some pretty closed-minded people who automatically assume a young woman who proudly shows her body in flimsy clothing is morally subversive! Whereas a man is somehow just 'so funny' - or 'eye candy'. I never see the dark association between a man's nakedness and sexual promiscuity that I see applied to young women.”

Also Anthony barely got dressed while he was on BB neither did Stuart. Proudly or not people with a "rep" do get more stick , whether that's right or wrong is a matter of opinion.

If someone does a specific job for a living glamour model for instance , and that housemate is often seen prancing around half naked. People will inevitably link the two together. And think in negative ways about it all.
planets
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Also Anthony barely got dressed while he was on BB neither did Stuart. Proudly or not people with a "rep" do get more stick , whether that's right or wrong is a matter of opinion.

If someone does a specific job for a living glamour model for instance , and that housemate is often seen prancing around half naked. People will inevitably link the two together. And think in negative ways about it all.”

i think when people are trying to be or are models the prancing round in bikinis by girls and pants a la David M can be perceived as trawling for a shoot in the daily star.....
jp761
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“i think when people are trying to be or are models the prancing round in bikinis by girls and pants a la David M can be perceived as trawling for a shoot in the daily star.....”

Yep. Definitely on those lines.
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