Welcome back to the dark side ChimpChops.

In tonights HL show Perez was just running around the garden, & Michelle & Katie H got annoyed, they weren't in the garden so why did it bother them so much? I think in the past he used to be very overweight, so maybe that's his way of staying active. There is no gym in there & she and Callum seem to exercise every day, I don't get it. Plus isn't Hopkins mantra, "eat less, move more"

It is baffling isn't it?

The latest task with the DR comments being played should tell a lot. They'll have a job finding anything ( derogatory ) Nadia has said about another house mate, where as they'll have no trouble finding a shed load from KH..She's more or less had something to say about every one of them other than Michelle.

But yes, it's Nadia and Perez that is getting the unfair backlash. Begs belief

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sandy, in an earlier post you said that Hopkins was NOT taunting Perez there

You looked at that vt and came to the conclusion that no 'taunting' took place

I find that astonishing

She can't go anywhere though, he's THERE - what can she do, he's taunting her and he knows it - she can't help but react. She knows he's targeting her, not everyone can just turn their back on Perez.

What's astonishing - it's not taunting what Katie's doing, it's telling him what he's doing in the house and recognising his gameplan. As I said Perez cruelly taunted Alexander. What aren't you getting ?

It could be deemed to be funny if she was trying to be funny Rhumba but I did not find it funny just boring, I will however agree to you saying that they are both trolls

Nobody is outraged, it's just opinions about what is said and done. Outraged would be screaming hysterical which I don't really see.

sandy, whilst I really admire and respect your loyalty to Katie I have to disagree - what Katie is doing IS without doubt taunting.

I find Perez extremely boring. I found Katie rather boring in that clip, though she's good value quite often.

Trolling each other I can't get my knickers in a twist about. They both deserve a bit of torment.

I'm not 'getting' how you can look at that vt and hear the mocking tone in Hopkins' voice as she tries to provoke a reaction from Perez and NOT recognise the goading and taunting element of it

That's what I'm not getting

"Try and look a bit MORE like Jesus....because I'd say you've got about....... I dunno an 8 / 10 at the moment on the Jesus...........impression.....I'm getting a little bit of Sunday Bible school......that's what I'm......that's what I've got from you today from your outfit but........dunno.....you could try that?"

Honestly......

This is K-Hop at her best.

Dire.

How is constantly saying to him ""Get Perez out" and commenting on what he's wearing or the size of his head got anything to do with recognising his game plan?

Ad-hom attacks. She's got nothing. She is not intelligent whatsoever.

Out of lurkdom twice in one night Chimp. are you staying? We're all quite nice really.

I don't have any loyalty to bloomin Katie H , I don't always agree with what she says, BUT she's not taunting him , she would be IF she was not telling the truth,but she isn't saying anything to him that i've not see him DO in the house,and she's saying what the others have said and we've seen him do ,- IF she was 'taunting' him he'd walk away,but he doesn't....... as he knows he's winding her up - and that's why he sits there like he's achieving his goal, grinning and yawning , he's so immature.

He taunts her to get a rise and she walks away , there's the difference. What Perez did to Alexander was blatantly taunting ,it was really nasty and deliberate and led to him actually leaving the house , - Katie's comments to Perez is nothing compared to that.

Seems to me some see Nadia sounding off about Katie H in the DR , she has little else to talk about let's face it........and hang on her every word. I see whats going on in the house and behaviour and comment !

TBH I don't think I could sit there and listen to someone taunt me like that, I'd walk away

He's loving the air time, and that Hopkins is going too far and ALSO being boring and showing herself up.

She's bored and giving him what he wants.

They're feeding each other, but Perez is getting the best of the encounter.

She's repeating what the crowd were chanting- perhaps she's trying to get it through to Perez that whatever he's doing isn't working !

Perez did very well to stay cool under that level of goading from Hopkins

Oxford dictionary definition of taunting:

A remark made in order to anger, wound, or provoke someone:

Wether she's telling the truth or not is irrelevant.

She's talking to 'Perez' !!!! Have you not watched him in the House ??
He's not bothered one bit by her is he,he's enjoying being an irritant !!
If she was saying that to Keith, out the blue, yes, that would be taunting,but she's not.
Perspective needed here, it's a game, and the HMs see Perez playing it, and if it makes their lives miserable in the house, he doesn't care. We've heard Kav , Cami and Callum scream about Perez's behaviour in the DR , so Katie vocalises the same to his face, and there's an issue ?? doesn't make sense.

Katie signed a deal with the intelligence corps. She's not stupid.

Finding Perez unbearable is quite normal, given the majority of HMs don't like. Can't really blame Katie for taking him to task.

I would probably kill him but only after I had tried to understand him As for KH I'd just string her up as I've tried to understand why and come up with zilch...she is just an utter cow.

Wonder if you voice same when Perez hounded Alexander til he left the House.!

And she's NOT taunting- he's sitting there smugly like he knows what she's saying is true, he's succeeding in winding her up, - because she was right in what she said.

Like it or not, it's going to carry on until Perez or Katie leave the house- most HMs feel the same anyway, it's not news that Perez is the biggest gameplayer in there.