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Before People Crown Katie Hopkins The "People's Champion"...Remember A Few Things
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reader123
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“You obviously have a problem with people telling the truth which explains your embarrassingly prejudiced views on KH.”

Well, still waiting for this poll.
Matt_Maher
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Janette800:
“I don't fail to realize that 50% of the public are obese ......but what I won't accept is how this vile excuse for an human being delivers the news....it's done to shock and annoy so she can pick up a pay check at the end of the month....”


As opposed to patting lazy obese people on the back and saying "oh don't worry about it, just stay as you are, keep draining the NHS and getting £70,000 a year benefits".


Someone has to say something. If things were left to PC people who are offended by anything and everything, nothing would ever be addressed, especially serious issues.

Katie Hopkins has done a fantastic job in highlighting the HUGE problem of obesity, at least she makes people pay attention to a serious issue.
LurkingGood
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Janette800:
“I don't fail to realize that 50% of the public are obese ......but what I won't accept is how this vile excuse for an human being delivers the news....it's done to shock and annoy so she can pick up a pay check at the end of the month..... she criticizes people who name their kids after places and flowers but has two daughters called poppy and India....the woman is a cretin”

"vile excuse for a human"

Has she abused children or committed mass murder, no, she's said something you disagree with.
Perhaps some posters should get a sense of perspective.
Matt_Maher
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“"vile excuse for a human"

Has she abused children or committed mass murder, no, she's said something you disagree with.
Perhaps some posters should get a sense of perspective.”


Indeed.
You have to wonder the reasons behind the intense anger some people have towards her.
It can't be for the clearly jokey quotes attributed to her, so it must be to do with the serious ones.
RabidWolverine1
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“A lot of people agree with most of those comments, so your post kind of loses steam there.

Some of them are clearly jokey, the ginger babies one for example was clearly said jokingly and probably to amuse herself when people got hysterical over it.

The people who make the biggest song and dance about her are generally the people who are against freedom of speech and as soon as they hear something they disagree with then they find it hard to deal with.

She doesn't even say anything that is too offensive. It's a bandwagon that a lot of people jumped on and some are still desperately clinging to it.”

What proof is there of Any of that. This post you made seems counter productive. Your trying to nullify my point by saying most are jokes or agree with her. Do you (And im not saying you do...im asking)...Do you agree with bombing another country or indeed find that funny?

Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“You obviously have a problem with people telling the truth which explains your embarrassingly prejudiced views on KH.”

Yeah indeed, im the one who makes up poll results without proof and then resorts to calling people embaressing.

Your ultimate blind faith in what she says is what's embarassing.
momoriro
25-01-2015
Worst still the stupid old bag goes around the house kissing ass while slating them all behind their backs. Tell it like it is, Yeah like when is that going too happen?
Matt_Maher
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“What proof is there of Any of that. This post you made seems counter productive. Your trying to nullify my point by saying most are jokes or agree with her. Do you (And im not saying you do...im asking)...Do you agree with bombing another country or indeed find that funny?”



I didn't think which comments are clearly said jokingly would need to be explained

As for the bombing comment, well she obviously has very strong views on that political situation.
Some would agree with her, some wouldn't.
Either way, absolutely none of what she said makes her into a vile human being!

As I've said before, i'm fairly certain that the one point which Katie made which has riled people, is the ones about fat people.
RabidWolverine1
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“I didn't think which comments are clearly said jokingly would need to be explained

As for the bombing comment, well she obviously has very strong views on that political situation.
Some would agree with her, some wouldn't.
Either way, absolutely none of what she said makes her into a vile human being!

As I've said before, i'm fairly certain that the one point which Katie made which has riled people, is the ones about fat people.”

I personally haven't called her vile, though I know that has been said. I just think shes a pathetic troll with a bigger platform than most trolls because she did The Apprentice.

As for which are joking. Looking into google into some of the comments she said in person she seems very determined to defend them not laugh them off. People don't get aggressive in defending jokes

I think all of the comments were beyond stupid including the one about peoples weight. Not forgetting about the McCann's deceased child though...lets make sure that's still up there.
jeanoj
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“As I've said before, i'm fairly certain that the one point which Katie made which has riled people, is the ones about fat people.”

Which is probably the one that is most accurate. Apart from a VERY FEW medical issues, obese people do eat too much and move too little.
LurkingGood
25-01-2015
What Katie H wants more than anything is a reaction to her views, so RabidWolverine1 gives her exactly what she wants. Well done.
Matt_Maher
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“I personally haven't called her vile, though I know that has been said. I just think shes a pathetic troll with a bigger platform than most trolls because she did The Apprentice.

As for which are joking. Looking into google into some of the comments she said in person she seems very determined to defend them not laugh them off. People don't get aggressive in defending jokes

I think all of the comments were beyond stupid including the one about peoples weight. Not forgetting about the McCann's deceased child though...lets make sure that's still up there.”



Well again, many people think the McCann's were extremely neglectful over what happened to their daughter. I'd go so far as to say i've heard nothing but criticism of them for leaving her alone.
Katie H happens to be one of those people.

I don't actually agree with people on that, I think it's way too easy to judge such a situation, but I don't hold it against Katie H just because I don't happen to agree with one thing she says.

I also don't think it's just fat people who are against her just because of the fat comments. I think because it was said in a supposedly offensive way, many people will jump up to defend anyone they feel has been offended.
karen2401
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“As opposed to patting lazy obese people on the back and saying "oh don't worry about it, just stay as you are, keep draining the NHS and getting £70,000 a year benefits".


Someone has to say something. If things were left to PC people who are offended by anything and everything, nothing would ever be addressed, especially serious issues.

Katie Hopkins has done a fantastic job in highlighting the HUGE problem of obesity, at least she makes people pay attention to a serious issue.”

in the words of nicky graham 'who IS she?' and why does she feel she has the right to be a spokes person, shes not 'highlighting' the problem of obesity, she just gets off on and makes a living out of verbally destroying people, like someone said noone in the business world will touch her now, shes a professional gobsh**e - and if she has the right to insult obese people (im not one of them by the way) is it ok for me to tell her she looks like a parrot thats been run over by a truck? or is that not 'pc'?
TribalSpaceman
25-01-2015
It's amusing me seeing people so angry that Katie Hopkins has been such a brilliant housemate when they desperately wanted to hate her.
jeanoj
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by reader123:
“Where on earth is this poll....link please. To conduct a poll/survey of the whole of GBP takes time and a lot of money. Who conducted this poll and when?”

"In the UK, 64% of adults are classed as being overweight or obese"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25576400.
Matt_Maher
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by karen2401:
“in the words of nicky graham 'who IS she?' and why does she feel she has the right to be a spokes person, shes not 'highlighting' the problem of obesity, she just gets off on and makes a living out of verbally destroying people, like someone said noone in the business world will touch her now, shes a professional gobsh**e - and if she has the right to insult obese people (im not one of them by the way) is it ok for me to tell her she looks like a parrot thats been run over by a truck? or is that not 'pc'?”


She makes jokes about how she looks, what more do you want?
She's very self depreciating.
But most other celebrities aren't. Look at Callum, he goes mad any time anyone makes fun of him.

And I disagree, she very much is highlighting the problem of obesity.
FINALLY someone isn't worrying about upsetting people by telling the truth. She's saying that eating healthier and exercising a bit will make you lose weight, it really is as simple as that.
RabidWolverine1
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“"In the UK, 64% of adults are classed as being overweight or obese"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25576400.”

The poll that was requested was that "over 50% of Brits agree specifically with Katie Hopkins opinions on overweight people"

Though I will actually thank you for trying to use logic and evidence to back up your statements. Even with a difference of opinion on this subject its nice to see.
wee-mo
25-01-2015
Thanks for the post but I will pick my winner as I always do on how they have been in the house , I think most people should not pre judge how a person is going to be That is the problem with Nadia she did not like Katie before she went into the house and has not even given her a chance so she has come out of this looking like a right misery guts ,
Katie Hopkins has been the kind of housemate I like to watch she has been in the middle of most of the house drama and has not sat on the fence like Keith has or been playing up to the Cameras like Perez has , So if she wins it will be fine with me .
karen2401
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“She makes jokes about how she looks, what more do you want?
She's very self depreciating.
But most other celebrities aren't. Look at Callum, he goes mad any time anyone makes fun of him.

And I disagree, she very much is highlighting the problem of obesity.
FINALLY someone isn't worrying about upsetting people by telling the truth. She's saying that eating healthier and exercising a bit will make you lose weight, it really is as simple as that.”

like nobody ever knew that before kh came aong take away her abuse and insults and what have u got? absolutely nothing
jeanoj
25-01-2015
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Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“
Oh jean, I agree with you about Perez as I am not a fan really, but do you honestly support a person who constantly insults others. She says it is her opinions but actually just using it as an excuse to be rude.
I dread to think what her children hear, how they are brought up to perceive others and the prejudices their mother has against people, it is there for them to see, on social media, tv etc. I personally think it is wrong to promote her prejudices and unfortunately that will happen if she wins.

I do fear that if she wins and over the next few months, we will have the same people back here wishing they had not voted her the winner as they will have given her a bigger platform for her prejudices and insults.

As I have said many times over the years jean, you are one of my fav posters and I have come to appreciate your views and opinions, it is just a surprise (knowing your posts as I do) that you would seem to condone her horrendous behaviour as others do by voting her the winner.

Anyway, everyone is entitled to an opinion, even you and I,lol.”

As I have said many times - I judge her as a housemate and I think she has been a great housemate. I have also seen many of her interviews and she isn't a vile person IMO. OK, she does come out with some stupid comments at times but a lot of what she says is very honest and what a lot of people are thinking but scared to say out loud. If she was that awful, do you think her husband would have stayed with her? I don't thinks so. Some of the things I have read on here are far worse than anything Katie has said and that makes me support her more. {{{hugs}}}
Matt_Maher
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by karen2401:
“like nobody ever knew that before kh came aong take away her abuse and insults and what have u got? absolutely nothing”


Well that's the thing, people don't know it, or they choose to ignore it.
People need these things attached to a sledgehammer and then smashed over their heads in order for them to pay any attention to what is a serious issue, in fact one of the most serious issues facing the UK today.
Theredendi
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I thought I was in the Crown Court forum.

Some of the Bile against Katie is far worse than anything she says or does.”

Except it really isn't, is it.

Can you provide examples, please? Ones that are worse than her comments on Palestinians, or ebola?
jeanoj
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“The poll that was requested was that "over 50% of Brits agree specifically with Katie Hopkins opinions on overweight people"

Though I will actually thank you for trying to use logic and evidence to back up your statements. Even with a difference of opinion on this subject its nice to see.”

Sorry I misread what was asked
momoriro
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“As opposed to patting lazy obese people on the back and saying "oh don't worry about it, just stay as you are, keep draining the NHS and getting £70,000 a year benefits".


Someone has to say something. If things were left to PC people who are offended by anything and everything, nothing would ever be addressed, especially serious issues.

Katie Hopkins has done a fantastic job in highlighting the HUGE problem of obesity, at least she makes people pay attention to a serious issue.”

Eating disorders are caused by past trauma and emotional disorders and need treatment not abuse.
The mental health service in this country is non existent, it is the fault of the government, there are no treatments, rehabilitation programs or psychological therapies available and not the people who are ill.
Bongo999
25-01-2015
Fantastic isn't she. Katie Hopkins to win
Matt_Maher
25-01-2015
Originally Posted by momoriro:
“Eating disorders are caused by past trauma and emotional disorders and need treatment not abuse.
The mental health service in this country is non existent, it is the fault of the government, there are no treatments, rehabilitation programs or psychological therapies available and not the people who are ill.”


Being obese has nothing whatsoever to do with any kind of mental illness and has nothing to do with 'being ill' in most cases.
It's actually offensive to people who have suffered with genuine mental health issues to say such a thing.

"I'm not fat because I eat too much, i'm mentally ill"
Please, seriously tell me you're not using that as an excuse or reason??!
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