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Michele talking about the Gays again
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Oracles_eye
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“Is that when you get your Full Diva Cliché Certification?
I'm so excited for you....”

I've had a setback, I've met wonderful person online and I'm not sure of the gender of the person, she may even be a fully scripted bot with semi intelligent replies, what if this person is a women? I think I'm male although I don't think this is confirmed on any documents apart from my birth certificate which if you look at closely says you can't use this as identification, so where do this lead me, what box am I in apart from the box of frogs, no I don't mean those.
planets
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Oracles_eye:
“I've had a setback, I've met wonderful person online and I'm not sure of the gender of the person, she may even be a fully scripted bot with semi intelligent replies, what if this person is a women? I think I'm male although I don't think this is confirmed on any documents apart from my birth certificate which if you look at closely says you can't use this as identification, so where do this lead me, what box am I in apart from the box of frogs, no I don't mean those.”

Well i would have said Love Is Blind, even if it was a Fembot what does it matter look at the True Love between Steven and the Kimbot from last summer....i know women are The Enemy (even gay ones) but Love Will Find A Way.....i would have said that but according to The Official Spokesperson for The Gays i think The Message is to avoid inclusivity isn't it?
So i'm afraid ostracisation is the only answer for the wonderful person they are simply not part of The Community. As for you, luckily after your parade you will officially be one of The Gays so as long as you follow the rules (which will be issued to you before the parade) you will be included within The Community....just don't go rogue you don't want to see what happens then.......if you need some advice i'm sure mmpfb can help you out he's fully gayed up.
Oracles_eye
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“Well i would have said Love Is Blind, even if it was a Fembot what does it matter look at the True Love between Steven and the Kimbot from last summer....i know women are The Enemy (even gay ones) but Love Will Find A Way.....i would have said that but according to The Official Spokesperson for The Gays i think The Message is to avoid inclusivity isn't it?
So i'm afraid ostracisation is the only answer for the wonderful person they are simply not part of The Community. As for you, luckily after your parade you will officially be one of The Gays so as long as you follow the rules (which will be issued to you before the parade) you will be included within The Community....just don't go rogue you don't want to see what happens then.......if you need some advice i'm sure mmpfb can help you out he's fully gayed up.”

It's all so confusing for a human, even though I have never took a humanity test I did cry when the puppy was murdered in Mr Reeves new film, but ate venison sandwiches whilst Bambi was on. I'm so confused. If I have my parade will my friends think bad of me, will my dad remember my name (Fame) mum says she's known since I was three months old I was a see you next Tuesday, hell I can't even sleep as Fernando next to me has stolen all the covers off me.
Desy Boy
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by kirbyreed:
“Thank you! I am more than happy to let Michelle speak to me, I bet most of these straight people who have a problem with it don't know how hard jt is still to be gay in many places. Not mentioning a problem is not the same thing as solving a problem.”

Fair enough. Her representation of gay people should really be judged by gay people themselves. As I'm not gay I'm big enough to acknowledge that my thoughts on the matter hold very limited weight.
planets
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Oracles_eye:
“It's all so confusing for a human, even though I have never took a humanity test I did cry when the puppy was murdered in Mr Reeves new film, but ate venison sandwiches whilst Bambi was on. I'm so confused. If I have my parade will my friends think bad of me, will my dad remember my name (Fame) mum says she's known since I was three months old I was a see you next Tuesday, hell I can't even sleep as Fernando next to me has stolen all the covers off me.”

i'd be happy to run you through the The Voight-Kampff test to see if you are a replicant if you like?
Oracles_eye
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“Fair enough. Her representation of gay people should really be judged by gay people themselves. As I'm not gay I'm big enough to acknowledge that my thoughts on the matter hold very limited weight.”

Don't let not being gay hold you back having an opinion, heck you could be an ambassador for them like Michelle.
hisdogspot
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Oracles_eye:
“Don't let not being gay hold you back having an opinion, heck you could be an ambassador for them like Michelle.”

Quite

I'm Salvation Army born and bred, but I'm thinking of becoming a spokesperson for the Catholics

I think of them as my people because a few of my mates are Catholic ... therefore I feel entitled to represent the Catholic community

That's reasonable, isn't it ?
planets
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Quite

I'm Salvation Army born and bred, but I'm thinking of becoming a spokesperson for the Catholics

I think of them as my people because a few of my mates are Catholic ... therefore I feel entitled to represent the Catholic community

That's reasonable, isn't it ?”

seems fine to me
Oracles_eye
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Quite

I'm Salvation Army born and bred, but I'm thinking of becoming a spokesperson for the Catholics

I think of them as my people because a few of my mates are Catholic ... therefore I feel entitled to represent the Catholic community

That's reasonable, isn't it ?”

As King George of the washroom said, you've got to have faith.
Lou17
27-01-2015
THE GAYS sounds so labelling
hisdogspot
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Oracles_eye:
“As King George of the washroom said, you've got to have faith.”

Too far Oracles ... too far

St Michaels is a community icon ... which community I'm not sure

Whatever it is though, you've just set it back 50 years !

tsk tsk
Oracles_eye
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Too far Oracles ... too far

St Michaels is a community icon ... which community I'm not sure

Whatever it is though, you've just set it back 50 years !

tsk tsk”

I'll get on my knees and pray, maybe I'll be visited by the holy ghost.

When King George was found to have been friendly with a man, my friends father at the time let out an almighty "He's a what!"

Right I'm off to go West to club tropicana, drinks are free apparently, then off to the pleasuredome which infact still exists just under a new name and I see it almost everyday.
rapscallion.
27-01-2015
She got "the gays" thing from a comedian called Lisa Lampanelli if anybody actually cares.
hiragoagain
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Oracles_eye:
“I heard "The Gays" in concert once, maybe she was the support act.”

This thread is just hilarious, has had me chuckling away particularly this quote.
macaz75
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“How does she do that?”

I can only assume, like any othef person fighting for equality... withprotest, pen power, legal rights knowledge, etc etc.

did you think I meant knuckle dusters and batons
Desy Boy
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Oracles_eye:
“Don't let not being gay hold you back having an opinion, heck you could be an ambassador for them like Michelle.”

I can have an opinion. I'm just not arrogant enough to assert my opinion on gay matters as having my value than an actual gay person's or someone who has respected relationships with that community. I believe that he who feels it knows it. At certain points in life I'd rather listen and learn than pontificate and ignore.

Life is already full of blowhards (no pun intended) who comment on situations with little care, knowledge or empathy for the subject.

Having said that I have to say that Michelle's commentary on the gay community can feel patronising and disingenuous at times. And given her use of Perez as a gay 'outcast' when it suits her critique, a little manipulative. But I do acknowledge that Perez outing celebrities may well have contributed to that opinion which might be common amongst the gay community, so yeah in short my knowledge is limited.
momoriro
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“In the UK we have a man called Peter Tatchell, who speaks out about gays, equal rights and has outed people in the past - and he is a gay supporter

Sometimes, these gay speakers/activists, whatever you want to call them, can do more harm by going on and on and on.
I much admire Peter Tatchell a bit hot headed but his heart is in the right place, staying in the closet does nothing for gay rights we want to see the day when being in the closet is no longer necessary.

Michelle isn't one of my favourites, she doesn't come across to me with any particularly great personality and I'm sick of hearing all the good she does for the gay community, not that it's bad, but I'm sick of hearing about it.”

I much admire Peter Tatchell a bit hot headed but his heart is in the right place, staying in the closet does nothing for gay rights we want to see the day when being in the closet is no longer necessary.

Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“You might though, if you were one of 'The gays' ... especially if you were the wrong 'sort' of gay ... you know, one who sets Michelle's community back 50 years by acting sexually and provoking nice straight men into calling them ass-faggots”

Great point!

Originally Posted by kirbyreed:
“You people complaining clearly know nothing about Michelle's life. She moved to New York in her late teens and was practically raised in the drag ball scene, she was around some of the greatest voguers there have ever been. She has been best friends with RuPaul since the early 80's and has spent most of her life around drag queens and in the club kids scene.
Most drag queens are straight do not confuse transvestism with being gay as most are not.

If you knew anything about her, you'd know that she considers the gay community her family and that is where she feels most comfortable. You'd also know that her support for us is not a way to get the "gay vote", it's just something close to her heart that she honestly cares about. Some people have to be cynical about everything.”

She has stood by and watched and even been active in the persecution of Perez who is to know if latent homophobia may underlie this behaviour in some? It definitely was with Alex who used abusive homophobic language and Michelle still choose too back such a person?
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