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Nadia has bitched about Katie H behind her back - double standards going on
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anne_666
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“No they don't want her telling them what they can and can't say.
Katie H has said it, Callum and Kav have said it, so has Cami-Li, and so did Cloe before she left. She thinks everyone's wrong unless they agree with her - she is not very tolerant of others and doesn't respect they may have different opinions to her. With her it's my way or the highway - and interesting how many times she mentioned her friendship with 'Keith' , she knows he'll be a favourite. The woman's watched enough BB to know how it works and been in TV a long time,she's as big a game player as Perez, supporting him as he's the underdog ! Even moreso after Keith said if he was a viewer, he'd find Perez entertaining ! She's playing everyone.”

I disagree completely.
linmic
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Dear OP,

You're allowing your borderline-vocational dislike of Perez to twist your perception of the world and the other people therein.

Maybe go have a nap?

Lots of love,

mmpfb”

Thank God somebody said it. It's like Groundhog Day in here sometimes.
sandy50
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Dear OP,

You're allowing your borderline-vocational dislike of Perez to twist your perception of the world and the other people therein.

Maybe go have a nap?

Lots of love,

mmpfb”

I think Perez is a great HM, he should stay as long as possible.
He's unpredictable, more than I can say about on here and all the anti-Hopkins threads------, yawn...........and so unimaginative , she must own a dog everyone can slate too !
sandy50
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I disagree completely.”

and you've explained all your reasons for disagreeing very clearly here.
Silent Scream
26-01-2015
Nadia has bitched about Katie H behind her back, True. Katie H has bitched about Nadia (and everyone else) behind her back. True.

Nadia has said all the same things to Katie H's ugly face. True. Katie H has said ZERO to Nadia's face. True.

/thread owned. Thanks for taking part.
Flowes
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“Nadia has bitched about Katie H behind her back, True. Katie H has bitched about Nadia (and everyone else) behind her back. True.

Nadia has said all the same things to Katie H's ugly face. True. Katie H has said ZERO to Nadia's face. True.

/thread owned. Thanks for taking part.”

Perfect!
anne_666
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“and you've explained all your reasons for disagreeing very clearly here.”

I'm very tired. I've run out of different ways to same the same thing. I disagree with everything you said so lets leave it at we agree to disagree, please.
anne_666
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“Nadia has bitched about Katie H behind her back, True. Katie H has bitched about Nadia (and everyone else) behind her back. True.

Nadia has said all the same things to Katie H's ugly face. True. Katie H has said ZERO to Nadia's face. True.

/thread owned. Thanks for taking part.”

We have been watching the same show, thank goodness.
amyawake
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“Careful of your tone.
And yes, I have understood thanks - Nadia used the fact that Katie had told Keith she had a large backside (which she has) and used that to justify her labelling Katie H as the most two-faced HM, but she'd got that wrong,the public didn't think that at all, and Cami-Li was the right answer, even Cami-Li said it would be herself, so shouting down and not taking any notice of what other HMs think is just what Nadia does. She's behaving like a bossy grandmother in that House ,well beyond her years - stifling the other HMs.

And FYI , Nadia even agreed she had a large backside in the debating task and that her husband worships at the foot of it !

And it's Katie Hopkins,and you see once you resort to that kind of name calling of HMs you don't like - you lose the argument.

Hope BB show Nadia's bitching to Patsy in the toilet, ”

Oh get over yourself...telling me to be careful about my tone...who are you? My mother? I speak as I find...Hopkins has a mouth on her so...Gobkins she is!!!

I am quite capable of making valid points which, should you not choose to acknowledge, many here will.

Agreeing that she has a large backside is NOT the same thing as being bitched about it behind your back.

Yes the convo in the toilet was heard which, if you knew, then you would have had no need for your thread in the first place since Nadia clearly explains about not wanting to stoop to Hopkins' level and give her blood. Clearly you missed that....never mind.
Tissy
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“No they don't want her telling them what they can and can't say.
Katie H has said it, Callum and Kav have said it, so has Cami-Li, and so did Cloe before she left. She thinks everyone's wrong unless they agree with her - she is not very tolerant of others and doesn't respect they may have different opinions to her. With her it's my way or the highway - and interesting how many times she mentioned her friendship with 'Keith' , she knows he'll be a favourite. The woman's watched enough BB to know how it works and been in TV a long time,she's as big a game player as Perez, supporting him as he's the underdog ! Even moreso after Keith said if he was a viewer, he'd find Perez entertaining ! She's playing everyone.”

How would she know Keith is favourite??

Possibly Julian was the last winner who was anything like Keith. Since then we've had Rylan, Charlotte, Jim and Gary winning ... So if she watched enough of BB she would expect someone like Perez or Katie to win surely. They are closest to the type of celeb the public are choosing to win nowadays.
Tissy
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Dear OP,

You're allowing your borderline-vocational dislike of Perez to twist your perception of the world and the other people therein.

Maybe go have a nap?

Lots of love,

mmpfb”

No, it's Nadia the OP dislikes
sandy50
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Oh get over yourself...telling me to be careful about my tone...who are you? My mother? I speak as I find...Hopkins has a mouth on her so...Gobkins she is!!!

I am quite capable of making valid points which, should you not choose to acknowledge, many here will.

Agreeing that she has a large backside is NOT the same thing as being bitched about it behind your back.

Yes the convo in the toilet was heard which, if you knew, then you would have had no need for your thread in the first place since Nadia clearly explains about not wanting to stoop to Hopkins' level and give her blood. Clearly you missed that....never mind.”

chill your boots !
Nadia is sucking the fun out of the house - get rid of her, and they can all relax be themselves and Perez won't get the attention he craves, it's as simple as that.
sandy50
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“How would she know Keith is favourite??

Possibly Julian was the last winner who was anything like Keith. Since then we've had Rylan, Charlotte, Jim and Gary winning ... So if she watched enough of BB she would expect someone like Perez or Katie to win surely. They are closest to the type of celeb the public are choosing to win nowadays.”

She's not daft - she can work it out
Process of elimination , who's been involved in rows, who's been victim of some drunk in there ............who is sensitive that everyone likes , who's least nominated...........it's Keith ,,,,,,,,,,,and she knows he's liked by the public,before he went in , so no reason not to still have a huge following - she knows the show.
mmpfb
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“No, it's Nadia the OP dislikes”

Ah, so she's just using Perez to further an anti-Nadia agenda? Makes sense. I'll discount all her opinions from now on.

sandy50
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Ah, so she's just using Perez to further an anti-Nadia agenda? Makes sense. I'll discount all her opinions from now on.

”

If you said anything constructive i'd read it, but alas............

I can't stand Perez btw , but he's a great HM
I can't stand Nadia ,I think she's a bore in there, and not a great HM

Clarified, I hope.
amyawake
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“ chill your boots !
Nadia is sucking the fun out of the house - get rid of her, and they can all relax be themselves and Perez won't get the attention he craves, it's as simple as that.”

Really?? Perez will play to the camera with or without Nadia there...it's his default setting. It is Perez that is causing the HMs not to relax; Nadia is just his friend but I clearly see your knives are out for her so you are not interested in seeing the situation clearly. Never mind.
sandy50
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Really?? Perez will play to the camera with or without Nadia there...it's his default setting. It is Perez that is causing the HMs not to relax; Nadia is just his friend but I clearly see your knives are out for her so you are not interested in seeing the situation clearly. Never mind.”

I am watching the show and commenting on what I actually 'see', and I also heard Nadia say she didn't even make eye contact with Katie for the first 10 days in the House, - rather rude I think.

Katie has said a few times she'd get on with Nadia if it wasn't for Perez being there, but Nadia hasn't afforded Katie the same comment in return has she, if anything, she's used every opportunity to make derogatory comments about her - eg the Task rating the HMs. Nadia has issues with Katie and did before she went in, she isn't prepared to make an effort with her - we'll see if that changes now Perez isn't there and she no longer has an excuse.
amyawake
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“I am watching the show and commenting on what I actually 'see', and I also heard Nadia say she didn't even make eye contact with Katie for the first 10 days in the House, - rather rude I think.

Katie has said a few times she'd get on with Nadia if it wasn't for Perez being there, but Nadia hasn't afforded Katie the same comment in return has she, if anything, she's used every opportunity to make derogatory comments about her - eg the Task rating the HMs. Nadia has issues with Katie and did before she went in, she isn't prepared to make an effort with her - we'll see if that changes now Perez isn't there and she no longer has an excuse.”

Wow what selective perception you have. Have you forgotten that Nadia said she has somewhat modified her opinion of Hopkins, having now met her and that is why she offered the clean slate idea.??

So, not making eye contact is rude....how do you appraise what Hopkins says to others then - by comparison?
Diabolus
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“He called Cami a bitch !! she had reason to get angry at him, and she reacted to what he said about her boyfriend leaving her ! Can't blame her for that. And Perez picks on others weaknesses, and uses that Rule book to claim he's being bullied, threatened, uses the homophobic card, being threatened with violence, - it's all nonsense to try and get one up on the HMs, Katie H has sussed him out, - I think Callum should man up and start putting his money where his mouth is, he's always saying Perez is in the wrong and goading others, he should man-up and not just leave it to Katie.”

I think you make some great points. both here and in the OP. There are double standards aplenty I agree, and a hell of a lot of excusing one HM's behaviours whilst taking glee in them if someone else does, it, or in fact going on to the internet to do similar to what they are criticising themselves.

From what I have seem many people (and not all) are ruled by who their favourite is and who their villain is.
When this happens, perspective, balance and reason is lost.
amyawake
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Diabolus:
“I think you make some great points. both here and in the OP. There are double standards aplenty I agree, and a hell of a lot of excusing one HM's behaviours whilst taking glee in them if someone else does, it, or in fact going on to the internet to do similar to what they are criticising themselves.

From what I have seem many people (and not all) are ruled by who their favourite is and who their villain is.
When this happens, perspective, balance and reason is lost.”

I agree....and guess who sandy50 is obsessively biaised against???
Diabolus
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“I agree....and guess who sandy50 is obsessively biaised against??? ”

I generally prefer not to try and get personal against individual forum members thanks.

Just how I roll.
amyawake
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Diabolus:
“I generally prefer not to try and get personal against individual forum members thanks.

Just how I roll. ”

Understood but your post seemed not to recognise her bias which I found very odd considering that this is her thread and heavily targeting Nadia.
Diabolus
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Understood but your post seemed not to recognise her biais which I found very odd considering that this is her thread and heavily targeting Nadia.”

Well let's hope a lesson's been learned about assumption, especially when it comes to my posts.

As for 'targeting' Nadia, I'd have thought the thread topic would have been a pretty big clue that this wasn't going to be some gushing eulogy or tribute to her. It seems as valid to me as any other thread on any other housemate so not sure what the issue is here.
sandy50
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Diabolus:
“I think you make some great points. both here and in the OP. There are double standards aplenty I agree, and a hell of a lot of excusing one HM's behaviours whilst taking glee in them if someone else does, it, or in fact going on to the internet to do similar to what they are criticising themselves.

From what I have seem many people (and not all) are ruled by who their favourite is and who their villain is.
When this happens, perspective, balance and reason is lost.”

Good points.
How I see it is that perspective is not lost if people state why they think the way they do, with examples from the actual BB show .- but that doesn't happen all the time, and some resort to insults and throw away remarks against other posters just because they read a comment they disagree with about a HM they dislike, or like- and don't bother to respond to the 'content' of the post,-- so no actual 'point ' is made t ! gets nowhere. But it happens I guess.
Toggler
26-01-2015
I think Nadia is a miserable busybody who can extract happiness from any given situation.
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