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EE: Lola Pearce's death
RIP_Emma
25-01-2015
Lola, Jay, Abi, Ben, Fatboy, Lee, Nancy, Zsa Zsa, Whitney, Liam, Cindy, Courtney Mitchell, Mark Fowler Jr. and Danny Butcher all go to an illegal warehouse rave in East London, near Gallions Reach station. Zsa Zsa buys some ecstasy from Kev Branning (a wrong'un who arrived in Walford for the funeral of his grandad Jim and started working for Max). Lola has recently formed a friendship with her mother, Alicia Pearce, who left her when she was 3 and began a relationship with Jay (who becomes a father to Lexi). Oh and btw, Billy has reunited with his ex-wife Honey and William has moved back in.
The youngsters enjoy the rave but Lola buys the ecstasy from Zsa Zsa but the E is dodgy and as a result she dies in the rave. Ben discovers that Zsa Zsa was responsible for giving Lola the E which leads to the Mitchell/Carter feud intensifying causing Sharon to end her friendship with Linda. Ben and Jay even attack Zsa Zsa as a result. Zsa Zsa blames herself for Lola's death and starts having one-night stands with different men and taking harder drugs. Shirley intervenes and discovers that Kevin gave Zsa Zsa the ecstasy and tells Jay.
Meanwhile, Billy Mitchell begins to self-destruct and he goes mad. While Honey is supportive and starts a campaign to raise awareness about drugs, Billy implodes and starts having a sordid fling with Lola's mother behind Honey's back. He also starts drinking heavily too. Ben is given custody of Lexi and struggles at first but begins to gain responsibility - becoming a father changes him. The Mitchells plan revenge on the Carters but Shirley tells Billy that it was Kevin Branning who responsible for Lola's death. Ben and Jay attempt to confront Kevin about it but Billy kills Kevin before they Ben and Jay do. This will begin a darker, Mabceth-style route for Billy and puts him centre stage.
Gummy Gleek
25-01-2015
Interesting fanfiction/storyline idea, but I think there's a bit too much going on for it to ever work on screen. Plus the writers won't kill off Lola unless the actress leaves and requests it.
Tesphen
26-01-2015
Ridiculous idea that didn't need its own thread. Why couldn't you have posted this nonsense in here?
cobwebsoup
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Tesphen:
“Ridiculous idea that didn't need its own thread. Why couldn't you have posted this nonsense in here?”

Why shouldn't the OP post a thread if she wants to?
cobwebsoup
26-01-2015
I enjoyed reading your ideas, however I wouldn't like them to kill off Lola. Also I know it'll probably never happen but I'd love one of the soaps to show drugs in a more realistic way. Whenever anyone has ecstasy in a soap they either die or end up in hospital. In reality ecstasy overdose is very uncommon among users. Lola does need a good storyline soon though.
Pink_Smurf
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Tesphen:
“Ridiculous idea that didn't need its own thread. Why couldn't you have posted this nonsense in here?”

Agreed
Originally Posted by cobwebsoup:
“Why shouldn't the OP post a thread if she wants to?”

She's already made an almost identical thread recently.
llgx
26-01-2015
No need for yet another thread
RingoJ739K
26-01-2015
I wouldn't want Lola to be killed off.

(Originally thought it might happen when I saw the title of the thread!
RIP_Emma
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“Agreed

She's already made an almost identical thread recently.”

She? Please get things right.
RIP_Emma
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Tesphen:
“Ridiculous idea that didn't need its own thread. Why couldn't you have posted this nonsense in here?”

You're clearly not the sharpest tool in the box. You didn't understand the idea in the first place!
RIP_Emma
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by cobwebsoup:
“I enjoyed reading your ideas, however I wouldn't like them to kill off Lola. Also I know it'll probably never happen but I'd love one of the soaps to show drugs in a more realistic way. Whenever anyone has ecstasy in a soap they either die or end up in hospital. In reality ecstasy overdose is very uncommon among users. Lola does need a good storyline soon though.”

Realistic way? Tell that to the family of Leah Betts? Or the family of Jodie Muir? Or Martha Fernback's family? EastEnders tackles controversial issues and the last time I heard of a soap doing ecstasy was 20 years ago in Corrie. I think you're overstating things.
RIP_Emma
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by llgx:
“No need for yet another thread ”

I have the right to post a different thread on a different issue. Please get over it!
RIP_Emma
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Gummy Gleek:
“Interesting fanfiction/storyline idea, but I think there's a bit too much going on for it to ever work on screen. Plus the writers won't kill off Lola unless the actress leaves and requests it.”

It's a storyline idea. Not too much going on at all, this is a development like all storylines. Honey and Billy get back together and Lola meets her mother. Lola get's with Jay. Zsa Zsa returns to meet her mum, Tina. Kevin Branning arrives on the scene after Jim dies. Zsa Zsa buys drugs from Kevin. The youngsters party. Lola takes Zsa Zsa's drugs. Lola dies. The Mitchells blame the Carters (feud kicks off again and plan revenge)! Carters find out that Kevin is responsible. Billy goes mad but Honey tries to help. Billy goes bad, drinks too much and sleeps with Lola's mum (like what Ian did with Jane). Zsa Zsa takes drugs to cope with the guilt. Ben becomes a dad and it changes him. Billy finds out Kevin was responsible for Lola's death. Billy kills Kevin. Bad Billy returns.

It's not a bit too much going on at all. It's called a storyline and it's what story telling is. Different things happen at first, you join up the dots and the story happens and there's the aftermath. Writers could kill off Lola if they want. They killed off Tiffany remember! No one thought they'd kill off Lucy Beale - they did.
cobwebsoup
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by RIP_Emma:
“Realistic way? Tell that to the family of Leah Betts? Or the family of Jodie Muir? Or Martha Fernback's family? EastEnders tackles controversial issues and the last time I heard of a soap doing ecstasy was 20 years ago in Corrie. I think you're overstating things.”

Realistic in that the chances of overdosing are one in thousands. I'd just prefer to see someone doing ecstasy on a soap without ending up in hospital. Obviously as it's pre-watershed it'll never happen though. Not overstating things just giving an opinion
RIP_Emma
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by cobwebsoup:
“Realistic in that the chances of overdosing are one in thousands. I'd just prefer to see someone doing ecstasy on a soap without ending up in hospital. Obviously as it's pre-watershed it'll never happen though. Not overstating things just giving an opinion ”

No, you are overstating things. There's not been a drug-related death and Lola wouldn't die in hospital. She'd die in the warehouse. And you could talk about unlikelihood but drug-related deaths are rising. EE should address it.
Tesphen
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by RIP_Emma:
“You're clearly not the sharpest tool in the box. You didn't understand the idea in the first place!”

I'm not the sharpest tool because I apparently didn't understand your ill thought out, poorly explained idea?

And why have you created five consecutive posts? Can't you use the multi-quote tool?
BumbleSquat
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by RIP_Emma:
“No, you are overstating things. There's not been a drug-related death and Lola wouldn't die in hospital. She'd die in the warehouse. And you could talk about unlikelihood but drug-related deaths are rising. EE should address it.”

The writers should want to tell interesting and engaging stories for their characters - not just pick out an ''issue'' and play eenie meenie with which character to apply it to. That's when they enter preaching territory.

Plus, I'm sure everybody out there knows there's always a risk when taking drugs - even the arrogant ''it'll never happen to me'' types. You'd have to be as dumb as a box of hair if you need a soap storyline to tell you there's always that danger.

Then there's the fact you picked out Lola. A young single mother who actually seems like she's got her head screwed on. I don't think we've even seen Lola drunk or party that much? But that's not the point.
Pat_Phelan
26-01-2015
Oh, I thought this was actually going to happen. Click-bait sucks.
joe gillott
26-01-2015
No, too many unneeded arrovals. Also I don't want Lola killed off. Billy is just a spare part so he should be killed off in a huge sl (for his fans)
Bathsheba
26-01-2015
I asked this in the other thread but didn't get an answer. Who is Danny Butcher?
curlywurly
26-01-2015
isn't Ben Lexis dad
Lisa_Thomas2
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by RIP_Emma:
“EastEnders tackles controversial issues and the last time I heard of a soap doing ecstasy was 20 years ago in Corrie.”

To be honest, I think this would have been more timely in the late 90's. People are a lot more knowledgeable about MDMA now.

Besides which, the demographic who were doing pills in the nineties are doing MKat now. That seems to be causing a lot more problems than MDMA. A friend of mine is a psychiatrist consultant, based at an inpatient unit. He told me the number of admissions in their late teens, early twenties have increased dramatically, and these are largely attributable to drug related (particularly meow) psychosis.
paton1983
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Bathsheba:
“I asked this in the other thread but didn't get an answer. Who is Danny Butcher?”

Wasn't he a fictionalised character created by someone in another thread, son of Diane or something like that?

I'm on my phone so cant multiquote. This storyline idea just wouldn't work in current Eastenders. Younger characters taking centre stage would have fitted a couple of years ago but, just looking at how many young characters are to be involved, viewers would start to disappear again.

Adding to what someone else said, characters who take drugs always seem to end up dead/addicted/hospitalised. All very predictable, boring and unrealistic.

And curlywurly, Ben is Lexi's dad. OP mentions Ben getting custody of Lexi: Another joyous custody battle probably.
RIP_Emma
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Bathsheba:
“I asked this in the other thread but didn't get an answer. Who is Danny Butcher?”

Frank Butcher's son.
RIP_Emma
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by BumbleSquat:
“The writers should want to tell interesting and engaging stories for their characters - not just pick out an ''issue'' and play eenie meenie with which character to apply it to. That's when they enter preaching territory.

Plus, I'm sure everybody out there knows there's always a risk when taking drugs - even the arrogant ''it'll never happen to me'' types. You'd have to be as dumb as a box of hair if you need a soap storyline to tell you there's always that danger.

Then there's the fact you picked out Lola. A young single mother who actually seems like she's got her head screwed on. I don't think we've even seen Lola drunk or party that much? But that's not the point.”

EastEnders has always been driven by issues: single mothers, teenage pregnancy, HIV, homosexuality, abortion, drug addiction, gang violence (even when many of these subjects were taboo). When it does that, it can make a pleasant change from just affairs.
There's a risk with taking drugs and people know that. But this about bringing the issue about drug-related deaths to light. There's not ever been an EastEnders character who's died from drugs since Donna Ludlow (and that was heavy use of heroin).
I picked Lola because it would give a strong storyline for Billy, could change the dynamic in the Square for the Mitchells and Carters and also help develop Ben as a character.
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