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Snowden: iPhone has secret software that can be remotely activated to spy on people
IvanIV
26-01-2015
Snowden: iPhone has secret software that can be remotely activated to spy on people

In case you did not feel paranoid enough
kidspud
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“Snowden: iPhone has secret software that can be remotely activated to spy on people

In case you did not feel paranoid enough ”

I assume he is just referring to the Google products on the appstore
tdenson
26-01-2015
The key thing in that quote was that he instead he uses a "simple" phone. I assume that his spokesperson was using the term iPhone as a generic meaning of smartphone.
IvanIV
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I assume he is just referring to the Google products on the appstore”

Ha ha, could be
tdenson
26-01-2015
Just realised that when I wrote this above "The key thing in that quote was that he instead he uses a "simple" phone. I assume that his spokesperson was using the term iPhone as a generic meaning of smartphone."
I meant "The key thing in that quote was that he uses a "simple" phone. I assume that his spokesperson was using the term iPhone as a generic meaning of smartphone."

BTW what is the timeout period after which you can't edit messages ?
rosetech
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“The key thing in that quote was that he instead he uses a "simple" phone. I assume that his spokesperson was using the term iPhone as a generic meaning of smartphone.”

The article talks about theoretical steps Apple have made to make it harder to access the iPhone. No mention of any other phone.
Stiggles
26-01-2015
Would be worrying if it did to be honest! Of all the things he has spilled in recent years, has he ever been wrong? I don't really follow what he claims.
Stiggles
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“The key thing in that quote was that he instead he uses a "simple" phone. I assume that his spokesperson was using the term iPhone as a generic meaning of smartphone.”

Why would you assume that? Genuine question before you think I'm having a go.

Quote:
“BTW what is the timeout period after which you can't edit messages ?”

15 mins on this forum i think.
The Lord Lucan
26-01-2015
What's the issue when all networks record for authorities, the encryption is thought to be broken and if they really want to get you spoof a mast.

Android apparently also allows a certain command set that allows the phone to be rung but not ring, pick up and listen, no display.. Although I'm not sure how that actually works but apparently it's possible. Via a certain CLI I wonder? Also if Webcams can be hacked by you and I relatively easily (it is) then I guess your camera could be compromised if there doors left open in the software...
kirstiemcnabb
26-01-2015
Be honest, often think so what if Government wants to snoop
After reading some of what I do and record day to day they would move on to another sole

No different than when you send letters and xmas cards to some of those counties on underside of our world and they open all the mail, been happening for years in many ways
tdenson
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Why would you assume that? Genuine question before you think I'm having a go.
.”

Perhaps "assume" is a bit strong, but I think it is probable that the spokesperson has picked up on a statement from Snowden such as "I'm won't use an iPhone because it can run apps that snoop". In other words the iPhone is used generically for a smartphone in the same way that hoover is used for something that cleans carpets.
tdenson
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“15 mins on this forum i think.”

What is the point of that ?
tdenson
26-01-2015
Originally Posted by rosetech:
“The article talks about theoretical steps Apple have made to make it harder to access the iPhone. No mention of any other phone.”

Yes, but the article is pure conjecture, it's not quoting Snowden
swordman
26-01-2015
Very worrying indeed, seems you have very little control over iphones on any front.
Resonance
27-01-2015
I've always assumed this to be the case on all smart phones. Even before smartphones I assumed the authorities would have a way of activating the mic and basically using your phone as a bug.

Of course if you ever voiced any of this pre-Snowden you were told to don your tin foil hat.
rosetech
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“Yes, but the article is pure conjecture, it's not quoting Snowden”

Agreed its conjecture. But cmon no one uses iPhone as a generic for a smart phone.
sonicshadow
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“Perhaps "assume" is a bit strong, but I think it is probable that the spokesperson has picked up on a statement from Snowden such as "I'm won't use an iPhone because it can run apps that snoop". In other words the iPhone is used generically for a smartphone in the same way that hoover is used for something that cleans carpets.”

Possibly, people do that a lot with Apple products. I heard someone at Christmas say they got an iPad for Christmas, and when queried about which iPad she got said a Hudl.
IvanIV
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by sonicshadow:
“Possibly, people do that a lot with Apple products. I heard someone at Christmas say they got an iPad for Christmas, and when queried about which iPad she got said a Hudl. ”

Apple should sue her
tdenson
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by rosetech:
“Agreed its conjecture. But cmon no one uses iPhone as a generic for a smart phone.”

I think Americans do. But even so, I think it was only an example.
rosetech
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“I think Americans do. But even so, I think it was only an example.”

Americans love Apple products (more than the Brits), I don't think they would be confused over this, but who knows
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