I don't like KH for many reasons, not just her fat comments, she makes deliberately nasty comments just to gain air time on tv and i was brought up to say nice things or if i couldn't say nothing at all.

Your post doesn't make sense

Please tell me where I said I was speaking for everyone else and that just because I said it, it makes it so??
I clearly stated it was my opinion, just as what you've just posted is your opinion.

Obviously because it's my opinion I think I am right, just as everyone else does with their opinions.
I don't see what's hard to understand.

I love a bit of thinly veiled anger.

I guess you're insinuating that Katie H laughs at disabled children

i think you are completely incorrect. the Fat jokes are just a small part of why she's horrible.

and btw, i'm medical and you are very wrong, as is KH. There are many medical conditions that make it close to impossible to Exercise/ do cardio to the level needed to lose large amounts of weight.

Add to that people who have had car accidents, bad injuries with chronic pain, Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue Viral syndrome, Any metabolic condition and there are many...... well its NOT RARE.

yes lots of people dont know how to eat properly and most people over eat. however, saying ....Eating a bit healthier and exercising a bit more... is tremendously offensive to those of us who have spent much of our life overweight but in Great shape and eating low calorie organic healthy and never losing a pound. I used to hike with dogs 2-3 hrs then get ready for work and then run all over hospital for 9 hr shift. Never lost a pound, how much more exercise would Katie H like me to do?

I myself have thyroid and other medical issues for instance. NOTHING can be done to lose weight other then overdose on the thyroid pills which is dangerous as HECK.

and anyone such as Katie H saying that anyone can lose weight easily , is lying. She isnt a trained Endocrinologist. Shes a big mouth who is naturally tall and lanky......and judgemental.

worse then that, she is going to affect young girls and boys who are having a tough time of it already.

Katie H has already said there are some reasons why it's pretty much impossible for people to lose weight.
Again, those aren't the people she has ever targeted.

I said that you were correct in stating it was your opinion, nothing difficult to understand.

You surely must be baiting or are you really that blinkered towards her behaviour......?

even if you ignore the media seeking nasty stuff she said before the show, inside the house, Katie H,

- gangs up on housemates with her fellow bullies (Cami and Michelle)
- berates people for not being a bully like her (ultimately turning them)
-hypocritically states she can't stand seeing somebody (alexander) goaded when that is what she does herself, except with a much crueller and malicious intent
- expresses pride and delight in isolating and harassing others
- attacking Alicia for how she chooses to parent
- attacking Patsy and Perez for their family setup
- constantly labelled Alicia as stupid, (even when Alicia explained the hurt)
- expressing pride in being unable to empathise or see things from another POV (black and white thinking)

People throw a lot of accusations about prejudice and bullying around, but in the case of KH this is completely warranted - she is far more prejudice than Ken Morley will ever be.

Whilst KH may have some minor redeeming features, occasional displays of humanity (when it relates to herself) and occasional funny comments that are less malicious, this is completely overshadowed by her obsession with attacking the vulnerable.

Plus she certainly has the ability to influence and cloud the judgement of others - look at how she nearly turned the entire house against Perez in a Lord of the Flies style.

Unfortunately there are people like KH out there. Don't get fooled by an occasional display of humanity, her intentions are malicious

On balance I consider her by far the least likeable housemate and she shows the most malicious intent through her words and actions.

I don't think Perez has brought out the worst in people. Everyone is responsible for their own behavior; how they react to Perez's (or anyone else's) behavior in there is their choice. Walk away, don't get involved, don't feed him by giving him the attention he craves. If they ignored him, like many a petulant child, he would give it up.....eventually.

Reacting to him by screaming, shouting, arguing etc gives him exactly what he wants. Sad and desperate though it is, for Perez any attention is better than none.

He may be an odious and wholly detestable figure but he's right about one thing, it has turned into The Perez Show and the other HM's have only themselves to blame.

Being undertall doesnt help either

I am fat I didn't really think her fat comments too bad (I may have missed some I tune out when she starts these days, my blood pressure can't take it), In fact she was right on some things, what upset me originally was her ginger comments, I think that was just ridiculous, ginger hair is lovely, always wished I had that head turning beautiful colour rather than my mousey brown. She made comments about a section of our society who by accident of birth have a hair colour she doesn't like, I don't see that any different to hating someone for their skin colour.

Her comments on the Scots are nasty, nicer people you could not wish to meet and their country is breath taking.

Now she has made comment about Katie P's son Harvey and his right to help getting around, TBH if they gave disabled people a million a year you would get no argument from me, if money helps them have a better life then give it to them. I have feeling no matter how much money they have it won't compensate for the difficulties they face in our cut throat world.

To me she seems a very uneducated unintelligent person, she seems unable to sympathise or empathise and doesn't do any real research on things before spout pure bile. I rarely comment on people's appearance but her bile seems to show on her face, a bit like Cami - no matter how much that attractive woman tries she cannot hide the venom and spite it shines from her face.

Has there ever been a subject where people so utterly ignorant of the facts were willing to bellow their ignorance to all and sundry?

KH has contributed literally nothing except further ignorance and rudeness to a debate that is already at saturation point in every paper and on every tv channel. Her programme was by far the worst and most discreditable of all the series on the subject that filled every tv channel after christmas.

No one who knows anything about the issue would dream of using a phrase like "a rare case with some kind of medical condition". (What 'medical conditions' were you thinking of, one wonders?) It is obvious from world statistics that when people have access to plenty of food, the majority of people are powerfully programmed to eat more than they need to. Genetics determines whether they will stay slim, get fat, or get very fat. It is absolutely risible to suggest that it only requires 'a bit of effort' to stay slim, for people programmed not to be slim.

Ironically, the only thing KH's worthless fat gain/ loss experiment showed - and she must realize this, not being stupid - is how very difficult it is for a naturally slim person to get fat, and how powerfully your body is programmed to revert to its normal weight once you start eating normally. She had to FORCE her weight up, with a dietician to help her to do it, since eating 6,500 calories a day is a ghastly experience for almost all of us. As soon as she stopped eating this stupendous quanitity of food, of course her body snapped back to its natural, very slim, shape.

For obvious reasons she did not pursue this thought, since it would rather have scuppered the whole thing. She clearly had no interest in the facts of obesity anyway, any more than the OP or her other admirers have. She just wanted an excuse for fat-hating, and sadly there is plenty of fertile ground there.

sure she has, because Most conditions are Undiagnosed and invisible

Mine took about 8 drs and over ten yrs to diagnose and i wasnt a kid. I was the same ht and weight from 11 yrs old til 25 yrs old...then i got three viral illness in a row. BOOM 35 lbs in one month, five yrs later Serious infection BOOM 27 lbs in three weeks, eight years later viral infection BOOM 8 lbs in one week.

each time NO yoyoing, Never gaining never losing.

I 've met plenty of "Katie's " thru the years, some even in the guise of naturopaths or Doctors. That pollyanna attitude about weight and how to lose encompasses only a few rare people is a sign of lack of education

Strange comment to make on a discussion forum where pretty much everything is someone's opinion :/

All of the above. If you find small children desperately seeking attention entertaining then Katie Hopkins is your girl. I personally find it disturbing in children and
worrying if it continues into adulthood.

The real reason could be comments like yours which then propel Katie H to go even further in insulting people for notoriety

As usual a sensible post Wonkey

This is such a good, compassionate post. Thanks so much for taking the time to write it. I totally agree about some people's weight issues. My sister has thyroid issues and over the years before she was diagnosed, she gradually got heavier and heavier until she became obese, yet she always ate like a bird - she'd make good meals for her children and just nibble at things herself. The fatigue she used to experience before the diagnosis was overwhelming.

Hopkins is a loud mouthed cretin who loves the attention she gets from being vile...nothing clever or decent about the double standard witch who ........BELIEVES......people who gives name places and names of flowers to their kids are idiots........THIS .....from a stupid woman who has two daughters called Poppy and India ......she also believes that we must have EBOLA to cut down on the population.....ginger babies are ugly fat people are lazy and stupid and probably don't work and she's right and everyone else is wrong.....people on this Forum who defends these views and the idiot who mouths them are of course entitled to their opinion.....but she wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire because as she once said.....PEOPLE WHO SPEND TIME ON FORUMS AND TWITTER DON'T HAVE A LIFE.......or words to that effect

And how do my comments do that?

I just happen to agree with some of what she say.
Other things she says I don't agree with or simply don't care about.

When she gets her primetime chat show when leaving the house, you can either watch or not watch.

actually it was a bit of totally unveiled sarcasm

and I was insinuating that by focusing on the least of "her crimes" , you are trivialising the really nasty things she has said in order to paint her in a better light

and...predictably...by focusing on the worst of "the crimes" of her detractors (in this case my disabled children comment) you attempt to maximise the unfairness of her critics to paint them in a worse light.

You carry on trying to justify her behaviour if you so wish, but I found your OP laughable

I'm not trivialising things she's said, I just think many people have overreacted.
The media have basically told them to overreact and that's what they've done.

I just don't think it's fair to bring up the disabled children thing. You are making out like she is making fun of or putting down disabled children. When she clearly isn't.

Katie has shown she's prepared to get on with Nadia - and Nadia's blanked her - she has a grudge and an issue , and isn't prepared to try, so Katie's the better person here-Holding grudges like that, considering that small environment, only Nadia loses- what a strain it must be for her having to carry so much dislike for someone - she should grow up , she is flippin 50 ewwww.

Unfortunately a lot of people are like that.
I used to work with a girl and if she ever had a customer who slightly annoyed her at any point then that was it. Forever there would be a grudge held.

I doubt many realise how much it costs for care of disabled children, I didn't - it's incredibly expensive,jawdroppingly so.

........as long as she thinks what she wants, does what she says and isolates those she doesn't like

Does KH not remind of you a little of any other facists?

.........Heil Hopkins!