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The real reason people dislike Katie Hopkins?
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patsylimerick
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by B_grizzle:
“You surely must be baiting or are you really that blinkered towards her behaviour......?

even if you ignore the media seeking nasty stuff she said before the show, inside the house, Katie H,

- gangs up on housemates with her fellow bullies (Cami and Michelle)
- berates people for not being a bully like her (ultimately turning them)
-hypocritically states she can't stand seeing somebody (alexander) goaded when that is what she does herself, except with a much crueller and malicious intent
- expresses pride and delight in isolating and harassing others
- attacking Alicia for how she chooses to parent
- attacking Patsy and Perez for their family setup
- constantly labelled Alicia as stupid, (even when Alicia explained the hurt)
- expressing pride in being unable to empathise or see things from another POV (black and white thinking)

People throw a lot of accusations about prejudice and bullying around, but in the case of KH this is completely warranted - she is far more prejudice than Ken Morley will ever be.

Whilst KH may have some minor redeeming features, occasional displays of humanity (when it relates to herself) and occasional funny comments that are less malicious, this is completely overshadowed by her obsession with attacking the vulnerable.

Plus she certainly has the ability to influence and cloud the judgement of others - look at how she nearly turned the entire house against Perez in a Lord of the Flies style.

Unfortunately there are people like KH out there. Don't get fooled by an occasional display of humanity, her intentions are malicious

On balance I consider her by far the least likeable housemate and she shows the most malicious intent through her words and actions.”

All of the above and much, much more. Her constant attempts to ridicule - and I mean constant. Any time anyone says anything that might be construed as self-incriminating in some minor way or less intelligent she gurns and makes sure everyone knows she is highlighting the 'crime' or stupidity. She is utterly, utterly odious to me.

Funnily enough, the worst thing I've read about Katie H I read just yesterday. She got a card with a picture of a stick-man on the cover of it, wrote inside 'saw this and thought of you' and sent it to the anorexic daughter of one of her ex boyfriends.

I think that's one of the most detestable things I've ever read about anyone. It genuinely turned my stomach.

Originally Posted by molliepops:
“I am fat I didn't really think her fat comments too bad (I may have missed some I tune out when she starts these days, my blood pressure can't take it), In fact she was right on some things, what upset me originally was her ginger comments, I think that was just ridiculous, ginger hair is lovely, always wished I had that head turning beautiful colour rather than my mousey brown. She made comments about a section of our society who by accident of birth have a hair colour she doesn't like, I don't see that any different to hating someone for their skin colour.

Her comments on the Scots are nasty, nicer people you could not wish to meet and their country is breath taking.

Now she has made comment about Katie P's son Harvey and his right to help getting around, TBH if they gave disabled people a million a year you would get no argument from me, if money helps them have a better life then give it to them. I have feeling no matter how much money they have it won't compensate for the difficulties they face in our cut throat world.

To me she seems a very uneducated unintelligent person, she seems unable to sympathise or empathise and doesn't do any real research on things before spout pure bile. I rarely comment on people's appearance but her bile seems to show on her face, a bit like Cami - no matter how much that attractive woman tries she cannot hide the venom and spite it shines from her face. ”

I fully agree.
pope_tart
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“I'm not trivialising things she's said, I just think many people have overreacted.
The media have basically told them to overreact and that's what they've done.

I just don't think it's fair to bring up the disabled children thing. You are making out like she is making fun of or putting down disabled children. When she clearly isn't.”

So you're not trivialising things she's said, now you are just blaming others for their reaction, rather than blaming her for the actual things said..........carry on minimising what she does and soon she'll gain sainthood

and my initial post was an attempt at comedy using a hypothetical situation where I was the villian..... which obviously went way over your head...any resemblance to anything Katie H might have done or said was purely coincidental, but I see why you might have thought otherwise...she says and does so much nasty things it must be hard to keep track
Mrs Checks
27-01-2015
I think her opinion of fat people just shows, yet again, that she doesn't even think things through properly. Plenty of sensible and well-informed posts on this thread, and others, have highlighted that.

I find it frightening how her fans can continue to agree with her ill-informed, sometimes irrational and often goady opinions, despite recieving plenty of evidence that they are mostly a load of rubbish. The fat thing is just one part of it, there's the baby names thing (despite having a daughter named India), the ginger thing (despite having a ginger child) and I'm sure there's more (I don't follow her closely enough outside the house to know). Not to mention a few incidents in the BB house!

How can people so blindly agree with KH, when she's constantly being shown up for her hypocrisy and lack of attention to detail? That's what I don't understand.

As for the fat thing, as per usual, KH (and those in agreement with her) oversimplify it to the point where it doesn't even stand up. In my experience, hardly anyone is fat only because they're greedy and lazy, just as hardly anyone is underweight only because they're overactive and lack an appetite. It comes down to so many things - genes, lifestyle, health and emotion/mental state (the biggest factor IMO).

For example, myself and my sibling both went through a traumatic time when we were younger. As a result of trying to cope, I developed anorexia. He gained a lot of weight and became obese. Can KH not see that, in our circumstance, they were two sides of the same coin? It wasn't as simple as my brother decided to sit around and stuff his face, just as it wasn't as simple as me deciding not to eat. Weight issues are so often symptomatic of a wider issue, be it mental, physical, or both. As plenty of us have repeated on here - LIFE ISN'T BLACK AND WHITE!

I honestly think that Katie lacks empathy and emotional intelligence. Those who blindy parrot her views make me question if they lack them too.
Matt_Maher
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by B_grizzle:
“........as long as she thinks what she wants, does what she says and isolates those she doesn't like

Does KH not remind of you a little of any other facists?

.........Heil Hopkins!”



Oh dear oh dear....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law


Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[2] Godwin's Law originally referred, specifically, to Usenet newsgroup discussions.[4] It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles and other rhetoric.[5][6]

In 2012, "Godwin's Law" became an entry in the third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.[7]
Mrs Checks
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Funnily enough, the worst thing I've read about Katie H I read just yesterday. She got a card with a picture of a stick-man on the cover of it, wrote inside 'saw this and thought of you' and sent it to the anorexic daughter of one of her ex boyfriends.”

Seriously? Especially considering what I've just said in my post above, that has turned my stomach too.

She doesn't just lack empathy, I was wrong. She is all-out vindictive. I know DS hates the word vile, but that kind of behaviour is bloody deserving of it!
molliepops
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“Katie has shown she's prepared to get on with Nadia - and Nadia's blanked her - she has a grudge and an issue , and isn't prepared to try, so Katie's the better person here-Holding grudges like that, considering that small environment, only Nadia loses- what a strain it must be for her having to carry so much dislike for someone - she should grow up , she is flippin 50 ewwww.”

Only if Nadia conforms and does what Katie wants. I think Nadia is principled not holding a grudge.
R82n8
27-01-2015
Read about
Perez.
linmic
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“Seriously? Especially considering what I've just said in my post above, that has turned my stomach too.

She doesn't just lack empathy, I was wrong. She is all-out vindictive. I know DS hates the word vile, but that kind of behaviour is bloody deserving of it!”

Its the daily mail so make of it what you will, but heres the link anyway:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...cked-family.ht

And another:

http://www.wattpad.com/20953166-a-no...-katie-hopkins
seayork2002
27-01-2015
So when skinny people can't stand her what is this called???
Herts47
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Either Hopkins has been badly bullied as a child or been neglected, her attitude to life and others stinks to high heaven.. she hasnt a decent bone in her body and only softens when she gets a compliment and even then I dont trust her..”

Agreed - there is some background behind her appalling behavior. She doesn't have any empathy and I agree with you that the fake concern for Alexander was just to "perform" to the house and use another scenario to bully Perez again. Yes I said the word bully because that's what it is (whether Perez goads her or not). She slagged Alex off at the beginning and suddenly becomes his knight in shining armour when it suits her to get one up on Perez (or try to). Her reaction to Keith crying over Alicia leaving was strange to put it mildly. She couldn't understand the crying at all. When she gets a compliment she can't handle it because I don't think she can understand the crying reaction. She's probably been brought up not to cry or show emotion, or even care about anyone.

Either that or she's a loving mother and wife and the whole nastiness and sociopathic behavior is completely fake, and she's playing up to her thousands of fans.

I think she is a nasty piece of work. She's fixated on Perez and targeted him from the beginning. She's tried desperately to isolate him from the other HM's and can't get it that Nadia gets on well with Perez (as he does with her and he's not using her). The more Perez doesn't react to her, the more she screams and shouts at him (aided by the screaming banshee that is Cami). I have no idea why she hates him so much - perhaps it's because of his columns etc., but blimey, some of the hate she's spouted out of her huge gob is a lot worse. Racist, insulting, hurtful - I won't go on.

She's the biggest hypocrite of all. Can't stand her.
Matt_Maher
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“
Funnily enough, the worst thing I've read about Katie H I read just yesterday. She got a card with a picture of a stick-man on the cover of it, wrote inside 'saw this and thought of you' and sent it to the anorexic daughter of one of her ex boyfriends.”



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ed-family.html


Yeah that wasn't a very nice thing to do admittedly, although I bet the daughter wasn't anywhere close to actually being anorexic.
Katie H does look strangely hot in the pictures in that link tho.
Matt_Maher
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by seayork2002:
“So when skinny people can't stand her what is this called???”


There are probably load of skinny people who don't like her.
A lot of people dislike people who have opinions different to their own, some people deal with it better than others.
Mrs Checks
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Yeah that wasn't a very nice thing to do admittedly, although I bet the daughter wasn't anywhere close to actually being anorexic.”

You must be baiting, otherwise that is a hell of an ignorant thing to say.

Again, particularly because of what I disclosed in my post above, I genuinely hope no one in your life has ever suffered from, or will suffer from, an eating disorder.
anne_666
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“I still think the only reason most people dislike Katie H is all down to her justified comments about fat people.
I think by making those comments it has hit home hard to a lot of fat people and a lot of people who have loved ones who are fat. And even to people who have a hobby of defending anyone who is apparently offended.
As a result of that, I think pretty much everything she says or has said is then blown out of all proportion by those people simply because the fat comments have had such an effect.

Nadia is a prime example. A larger woman who has had weight issues for years, I think the only reason she has an almost pathological dislike of Katie H is all down to that one issue.

That's my opinion tho, I'm sure many will disagree and obviously some flat out just won't admit to this being the main reason for the dislike of Katie H.

I don't agree with everything she says. I'm working class and I'm not down with her snobbery, but I'm also aware enough that I don't have to dislike someone simply because they say a few things I disagree with.

The fat comments were spot on in my opinion.
The issue of obesity is probably THE main concern in the country today, and the simple fact is that to lose weight is very simple (unless you are a rare case with some kind of medical condition).
Eating a bit healthier and exercising a bit more. It seems simple but people really do need it hammered into them and I think Katie H has done a fantastic job of getting the issue debated.

Katie H's issue with the whole thing was that she's sick of very overweight people moaning about being overweight and saying how hard it is to lose weight.
But you just need to motivation to make a bit of effort to do it. If you don't, it is quite simply your own fault.

I'd like to lose a couple of stone myself, but for me it's not a priority in life and I certainly don't go around moaning about wanting to lose weight.”

That is the tip of the iceberg. This is an excellent summary of why she is an unacceptable human being.
Sitting comfortably...Centuries ago when the rich were rich and the uneducated poor were scum, social mobility was impossible, along came the voice of the ruling class.

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...kins-interview


E
Quote:
“fficient at what? "Efficient at getting smart, well-connected people to the top. It is efficient, because what public money was required to move those people to the top? None." That would depend on whether we want the best people at the top, surely, or just the cheapest way to get some people to fill up the top? "Oh, for goodness sake," she exclaims impatiently. "It's this whole state school thing: 'Oh, there are a couple of bright sparks, let's invest £50m trying to get the two or three that might achieve to the top.' Or, shall we take really clever people and not have to spend any money on them, and get them to the top because they're connected and went to brilliant schools and their families will support them and they're fantastic? So why bother with social mobility? Why does it matter? Why? Why? I don't understand the obsession with it."



”

And there's more, much more.
Penny Crayon
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by R82n8:
“Read about
Perez.”

What does that have to do with this thread?

I've read through ................I'm a bit lost for words TBH - wouldn't know where to begin - and I'm not even fat or ginger
amyawake
27-01-2015
No - people do not dislike Hopkins JUST because of her dislike of fat people. She manages to offend so many different kinds of people....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...ements-3787639
tuppencehapenny
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“That's the kind of thing others accuse Katie H of doing- making unfounded accusations !
She's pretending all the the time,it's what she does,----- but in the House ,she's been a great HM to watch love her or loathe her ! I don't know who can deny that !”

The poster was speculating not asserting, unlike KH who appears to believe she and only she is right about everything. I don't believe she's pretending. I think she really is that silly. I can easily deny she's been a great housemate, and I neither love her nor loathe her. She is predictable, inflexible and has stifled others in the house. She bores me. It's like being incarcerated with a right-wing bigot who can behave only in one way. Very dull.
seellee
27-01-2015
I decided to do a search on Hopkins to find out the awful things she has supposed to have said. Have to say there aren't many. Just the usual ginger, Scottish and fat ones. I think Hopkins is a bit of a myth if I'm honest. Perpetuated by the faux outrage brigade.

Do these people that are continuously offended by everything not realise that they are making Hopkins huge amounts of money by being offended?

Somebody earlier on in this thread accused her of being elitist and that she believes rich and privelaged people shouldn't have to pay taxes etc. Well that doesn't really fit with her saying Price should have to pay for her own care!

I reckon if I got into a quiet room with Hopkins and had a few debates with her I think she'd be thoroughly sensible and her views wouldn't be quite so inflamed.

Don't some of you people realise that she sits back every night counting her money whilst you get yourselves all hot and bothered about her tweets?!
bbfivenever
27-01-2015
I dislike her as she is the lowest kind of attention seeker.

She's found a way to make a living by being obnoxious and doesn't even believe half the stuff she spouts, but knows the effect is greater than the cause so spouts it anyway.

And all she's done in the house is judge and belittle.

Even when she's bitten her tongue she pulls these stupid faces to let the public know that she's talking to someone beneath her.

A fame hungry wannabee that decries fame hungry wannabees... go figure.
patsylimerick
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Oh dear oh dear....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law


Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[2] Godwin's Law originally referred, specifically, to Usenet newsgroup discussions.[4] It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles and other rhetoric.[5][6]

In 2012, "Godwin's Law" became an entry in the third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.[7]
”

Godwin's Law is a load of oul' balderdash. You could equally argue that as an online discussion goes on, sooner or later someone will compare something or someone to Yazz and the Purple Population; or onions and parsnips. It's a logical nonsense.

Godwin's second law, by the way, is that if you make a valid comparison with Hitler or the Nazis someone will arrive in 4.5 posts to quote Godwin's Law.....................
Matt_Maher
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“You must be baiting, otherwise that is a hell of an ignorant thing to say.

Again, particularly because of what I disclosed in my post above, I genuinely hope no one in your life has ever suffered from, or will suffer from, an eating disorder.”


You'd be very surprised but I don't feel the need to bring that up to justify my comments.
I just don't think Katie H would have done that to someone deeply into anorexia.

I might be wrong tho.
tuppencehapenny
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“You must be baiting, otherwise that is a hell of an ignorant thing to say.

Again, particularly because of what I disclosed in my post above, I genuinely hope no one in your life has ever suffered from, or will suffer from, an eating disorder.”

I agree. That was a hellishly ignorant comment and typical of the sort of nonsense that KH supporters are forced to come out with in the light of some of her appalling behaviour. A comment like that deserves no respect.
patsylimerick
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by seellee:
“I decided to do a search on Hopkins to find out the awful things she has supposed to have said. Have to say there aren't many. Just the usual ginger, Scottish and fat ones. I think Hopkins is a bit of a myth if I'm honest. Perpetuated by the faux outrage brigade.

Do these people that are continuously offended by everything not realise that they are making Hopkins huge amounts of money by being offended?

Somebody earlier on in this thread accused her of being elitist and that she believes rich and privelaged people shouldn't have to pay taxes etc. Well that doesn't really fit with her saying Price should have to pay for her own care!

I reckon if I got into a quiet room with Hopkins and had a few debates with her I think she'd be thoroughly sensible and her views wouldn't be quite so inflamed.

Don't some of you people realise that she sits back every night counting her money whilst you get yourselves all hot and bothered about her tweets?!”

The bit in bold is kind of the point, no? She routinely contradicts herself. Her child is named 'India' yet she won't let her children play with children who have ridiculous names; her children are ginger yet she feels no-one could love a ginger child; she has been quoted directly as saying that the wealthy should avoid tax and has been seen directly saying that Katie P should pay for Harvey's care.

She's about as consistent as diarrhea, to add to her offensiveness.
tuppencehapenny
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“You'd be very surprised but I don't feel the need to bring that up to justify my comments.
I just don't think Katie H would have done that to someone deeply into anorexia.

I might be wrong tho.”

And your evidence is? Nothing more than an attempt to excuse her I should think. Poor argument.
Mrs Checks
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by seellee:
“Perpetuated by the faux outrage brigade. ”

you do realise it is possible for people to be actually offended, right? Just because you aren't, doesn't mean it's "faux".

As for the outrage, I wouldn't say there's that much outrage on this thread, more like a lot of very sensible arguments as to why a lot of stuff KH spouts is untrue, and that the OP's opinion as to why some dislike KH is misguided.

I'm actually almost glad Katie says these stupid things, because it opens up a wider argument amongst communities like this, where informed people can point out exactly why the stuff she is saying is rubbish or hypocritical.
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