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Impossible to revert to iOS 7 from 8?
ihatemarmite
27-01-2015
Hi, before I update- it's not possible to go back to iOS 7 from 8 is it? My iPad Air is lagging, crashing or quitting on any graphics-heavy website or app (news sites particularly bad esp Guardian) and pages are freezing. I clear the cache daily. Problem is in Chrome and Safari. Probably a more serious memory issue but I thought I'd update. I'm really wary of Apple updates though.

Can anyone else confirm if Nouvel Obs app (French) works on their ipad as it won't even open on this one before quitting to the home screen.
I'd also like to know if any of the swipe type apps work on iOS 8 or they're all buggy?
Thanks v much
Stig
27-01-2015
I find Safari on iOS 8 much more stable than iOS 7.

I'm not sure how to do it, but I believe you can revert to an older iOS if you Jailbreak before you do the upgrade.
alanwarwic
27-01-2015
All browsers have the same engine so can you not use that Opera Mini server side browser for the Guardian?
Quackers
27-01-2015
No, you cannot go back. Once you are on iOS 8 the only way is forward.
Dan Sette
27-01-2015
I would look at other things as well as the iPad.

I'm running IOS8 on an iPad mini (1st Gen) and it works fine.

Except - recently it won't load pages, times out, crashes etc. It turns out that the fibre broadband I had installed wasn't working properly (providing occasional very VERY slow speeds) and the Home Hub 5 was playing up too on the 5MHz band.

BT are looking into the speed issue and have recommended I switch off the 5MHz WiFi as the 2.4MHz is more stable.

Mind you they have also said I should add a second modem so don't have total faith in what they have said
ihatemarmite
27-01-2015
thanks - I'm with BT but have no problems online with computer or phone.

Haven't a clue how to jailbreak it I'm afraid. It's still in warranty too.
Or how to find the Opera side bar? It's not just the Guardian though. Any graphics heavy website or app just quits. The Independent freezes so is unusable. As I said, Nouvel Obs is pointless. I'm increasingly using my phone or laptop.

I've been reading an 82 page thread on iOS 8 crashes and problems. Apparently there's the highest rate of owners who haven't updated iOS ever.
BKM
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by ihatemarmite:
“I've been reading an 82 page thread on iOS 8 crashes and problems. Apparently there's the highest rate of owners who haven't updated iOS ever.”

You can find this on anything!!!! Personally, while IOS 8 did not have the best of starts, its current update (8.1.2) seems totally stable.

And no - you cannot go back once you upgrade!
Stig
27-01-2015
Originally Posted by ihatemarmite:
“thanks - I'm with BT but have no problems online with computer or phone.

Haven't a clue how to jailbreak it I'm afraid. It's still in warranty too.
Or how to find the Opera side bar? It's not just the Guardian though. Any graphics heavy website or app just quits. The Independent freezes so is unusable. As I said, Nouvel Obs is pointless. I'm increasingly using my phone or laptop.

I've been reading an 82 page thread on iOS 8 crashes and problems. Apparently there's the highest rate of owners who haven't updated iOS ever.”

Have you tried Chrome? That might be better for some sites.

However, as I previosuly said, I had lots of problems with web browsing on iOS 7 which have gone away with iOS 8. Your iPad Air is more than powerful enough for it, whereas older iPads aren't.
alanwarwic
29-01-2015
It is worth noting that from Sunday things may get much worse for some.

App updates have to be 64 bit meaning the size will increase by up to 50%. So think twice before upgrading that app, it might hit you big time in crashing if jumping to 54 bit.
It might seem strange, but certainly the 32 bit iPhone 5c and iPad 4 will be the most crash stable offering Apple have , ignoring the sensibly designed 2GB iPad Air 2)

Again, think twice before updating that app from now on. Maybe only do so if it fixes something for you.
kidspud
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“It is worth noting that from Sunday things may get much worse for some.

App updates have to be 64 bit meaning the size will increase by up to 50%. So think twice before upgrading that app, it might hit you big time in crashing if jumping to 54 bit.
It might seem strange, but certainly the 32 bit iPhone 5c and iPad 4 will be the most crash stable offering Apple have , ignoring the sensibly designed 2GB iPad Air 2)

Again, think twice before updating that app from now on. Maybe only do so if it fixes something for you.”

Thanks for the warning. I'll keep an eye out on Sunday to see what devastating effect it has and report back.
Roush
29-01-2015
Wrong.

New apps must contain a 64 bit code slice from 1 February 2015 and this will be extended to updates from 1 June 2015.
kidspud
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by Roush:
“Wrong.

New apps must contain a 64 bit code slice from 1 February 2015 and this will be extended to updates from 1 June 2015.”

Phew, panic over for now.
alanwarwic
29-01-2015
There is a bonus.

If the apps go 64 bit, then there will be less a need to juggle the 32bit and 64 bit OS stuff thus actually saving memory.

http://9to5mac.com/2014/10/20/apple-...february-2015/

"Existing apps are only affected if they want to submit feature or bug fix updates. Apple will not remove any apps currently on the store today."

I guess that Is just plain wrong then.
kidspud
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“There is a bonus.

If the apps go 64 bit, then there will be less a need to juggle the 32bit and 64 bit OS stuff thus actually saving memory.

http://9to5mac.com/2014/10/20/apple-...february-2015/

"Existing apps are only affected if they want to submit feature or bug fix updates. Apple will not remove any apps currently on the store today."

I guess that Is just plain wrong then.”

Don't worry. I expect no one will notice any difference.
victor mel
10-03-2015
I see 8.2 is now available to update. I am still on ios 7 on my ipad mini 2 due to the negative reviews of ios 8. What are others experiences is it worth upgrading?
alanwarwic
10-03-2015
According to that pic, it includes a 'Timely' advert.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/03...advertisement/

So the .2 looks like it adds all the watch framework.
Stig
10-03-2015
Originally Posted by victor mel:
“I see 8.2 is now available to update. I am still on ios 7 on my ipad mini 2 due to the negative reviews of ios 8. What are others experiences is it worth upgrading?”

You are reading the wrong reviews; 8.x is way better than 7.

However, I'd wait for them to get the bugs out of 8.2.
victor mel
10-03-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“You are reading the wrong reviews; 8.x is way better than 7.

However, I'd wait for them to get the bugs out of 8.2.”

Shall I wait for 8.3 which should be out soon? But what if that has bugs as well?
chrisjr
10-03-2015
Originally Posted by victor mel:
“Shall I wait for 8.3 which should be out soon? But what if that has bugs as well?”

If you wait for all the bugs to be taken out of an operating system then your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandchildren will still be waiting to upgrade your device.

May as well take the plunge and upgrade now. Most of the stuff that was bad about iOS8 appears to have been fixed by iOS8.1, I've certainly not noticed any serious problems with it on my iPhone and not aware of any serious problems on the several hundred iPhones we have spread around the company either.
clonmult
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“You are reading the wrong reviews; 8.x is way better than 7.

However, I'd wait for them to get the bugs out of 8.2.”

For 99.9% of people there is no useful functional difference between iOS 8 and iOS7.

Although I will say that iOS8.2 does now seem quite snappy on my 4S; 8.0 wasn't great, but they have genuinely improved its performance. Unlike Android on my 2012N7, which has been consistently getting slower and slower .... Apple have a better focus on efficiency at the moment than Google (which really does sound rather bizarre).
alanwarwic
11-03-2015
Fact is they all add bloated stuff you don't really want or need.

I think Microsofts involvement with Cyagenmod means they want to add their own Android bloat using a light Android, open sourced from Google.
Stig
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“For 99.9% of people there is no useful functional difference between iOS 8 and iOS7.)”

Really? I'm fairly sure I wasn't the only person who had frequent Safari crashes under iOS 7 which disappeared in 8.
clonmult
12-03-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“Really? I'm fairly sure I wasn't the only person who had frequent Safari crashes under iOS 7 which disappeared in 8.”

Bug fixes would be categorised separately to functional differences - of which there are barely any; know plenty of people who have had no issues with safari crashing out on iOS7 and 8. Personally rarely use Safari on the iPhone as I find it a hateful experience. Much prefer the feel of IE on my 1020.
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