.... the woman hid her medical records from the army... when she should never have done this in the first place.. I will agree on what she said though about other jobs in the army which she could perhaps have done... but rules are rules. and you can read all of this too..

But Hopkins' military career came to an abrupt end days before the passing out ceremony. If I didn't slow her down she would have glossed briskly over the details, but it transpires that she had an epileptic seizure on the parade square. "It's not something I talk about," she says quickly, "because I see it as a failing. So it does annoy me a little bit when people say 'she failed at the forces', but of course I never respond. I never say why, because it sounds like an excuse, and I won't have that. I won't have an excuse."
https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/news/kat...t-her-epilepsy

It really is, yet people continually use everything she does to bash her with, it's quite unbelievable.

Thousands of people do it every year.

Do you think gay and lesbian people never joined the forces when it was illegal for homosexuals to serve?

You're just a Katie hater using this to bash her.

Your tlaking absolute rubbish.. do you know why the armed forces have rules.... its because a soldier is there for his fellow soldiers , not just for him or herself... dont be so silly..

She is a very brave lady.

That's severe - I've read the article now.
I know there are operations that can be carried out that can stop people having seizures completely now. Amazing advances.

but she was talking about doing a desk Intelligence job anyway.

this isnt courageous, its stupidity and Hopkins fooling the forces to suit her own ends.... whats new.

seems another excuse to bash her
She's achieved more than most will in a lifetime

Oddly, just so you know, the Forces don't just have soldiers, they have airman and sailors too.

And as a ex-serviceman I know I'm not talking rubbish, unlike you - so you think that before it became legal, a gay man or woman could not do their job in the armed forces, just because of their sexuality?

That people with Asthma were a threat to their fellow men and women?

That's just 2 cases, there are many others, such as Psoriasis, that the armed forces have or do outlaw.

just to be clear because i'm confused by your posts are you saying being gay or having psoriasis is comparable to having seizures and 15 absences a day ?

No, that's not what I'm saying, quite obviously.

oh ok, because that's how your posts read.

Ain't that a shame.

I've read that article a number of times, and it doesn't actually say that.

I presume you're thinking that when she said
"At the top of the steps, everyone else turned right. I turned left"
that means she had a seizure?
But it could equally mean that the others turned right because they were graduating, and she turned left because she wasn't.

I agree it's not very clear what it means.

My son was a marine for many years so yes I dont know what Im talking about and the Oath of Allegiance... loyalty , intergrity,respect for others... are just some.... putting others lives at risk through a known illness is not what a soldier is about...

Glad we got that one cleared up.

Also, just so you know, a Marine is not a soldier, that's why you call one a Marine.

Some people on here are as bad as Hopkins is without even realising it. Despite saying they dislike her. Very amusing.

The womans morals stink on every level... this is what its all about...

And you're entitled to your opinion - but you have to accept that others are entitled to theirs.

Oddly, most Katie haters on here say much more vile and toxic things than she does, and that's not directed at you personally.

She lied to get in. Is anyone surprised? I'm certainly not.

thank you.....

And only hypocrites say they've never lied about anything.

I don't think anyone is suggesting no one has ever lied about anything. The point you are missing is, not only could an epileptic cause a problem for others, they could pose a risk to themselves.

Even though Katie wanted a desk job, wouldn't she still have to do basic training and continual training throughout her service in the military?

As far as I am aware, arduous physical training does not simply stop once you are out of basic training. And yes, I do know what I'm talking about before anyone questions my knowledge lol.

How do you feel about someone lying about seizures to get a job in the merge Cyw services ie firefighter has seizures on the job then putting fellow fire fighter ives at risk