Aspiring in life to reach your goal is an admirable trait. Not sure I could admire her (or anybody else for that matter) for being so irresponsible and selfish trying to achieve that goal. But maybe that's just me.

i was just responding to your "Oddly, at no time during her training did anything ever happen" which wasn't correct, at no time did i claim anything other than your post was incorrect.

I know you don't care, I don't either, i DO care when people write inaccuracies and claim them as truths though whoever they support.

I don't see it as selfish in any way I'm afraid, I understand that you and others might, but I don't.

Also, for anyone that Hates Katie H, for whatever reason they seem to have hatred for her whatever she does - she "put lives at risk in the army shocker", she "shagged a married man in a field shocker", she "slags off Katie P's disabled child" shocker - they will always find something to bash her with, no matter what she does.

Well, I beg to differ. You wouldn't want someone with epilepsy to walk in the wrong direction if you were gingerly making your way through a mine field.

Of course Katie wasn't doing that. But the point being, if people hide things like this and are able to join the forces who knows what they may be asked to do.

You can't just shrug that kind of thing off and simply say 'no one got hurt'. I'd add to that 'this time'.

My point being, if you know you are unfit, it is wrong however much you desire it, to put yourself and others at risk because of your own selfish reasons.

oh stop being so bloody pedantic, military men and women are constantly turning the wrong way on parade.

Yet you claim to know what the training involves and state categorically she couldn't put anyone's life in danger!

Or don't you understand epilepsy and why epileptics can't join the armed forces?

oh good lord

But she wasn't in a mine field was she and she was discharged, so there's no issue is there.

what planet are you actually on... do you read back the nonsense you spout.... she could have put many lives at risk if no one would have found out her secret... this has nothing to do with liking or disliking, its a fact, what she did was dishonest and dangerous , she lacked all the things she should have had as a soldier.

No, I said she didn't put anyone in danger.

But she didn't, so get over it.

because she thankfully never got the chance... oh god..

With respect to you Pete.

1. I don't hate Katie H, I don't hate anyone. Dislike yes, hate no.
2. IMO she was irresponsible and selfish lying about her medical condition.
3. Shagging a married man in a field is a 'shocker' to me. I don't condone that kind of behaviour in any shape or form.
4. Regardless of whether I think Katie P is right to use tax payers money for her child is neither here nor there. It isn't any of my business or anyone else's come to that. I don't think it should have been made an issue in the house. But I fear it will be made an issue now by Katie H when she does come out of the house.

I'm not a fan of Katie H's I will admit. I don't find her antagonistic, goading, childish approach that she displays at all redeeming and I wish to goodness she'd stop flapping her arms about when she speaks. All I can think of when she does that is......'the emergency exits are here, here and here'.

But I don't hate her.

I think you missed my point.

If you read my post again hopefully it will become clear.






Of course Katie wasn't doing that. But the point being, if people hide things like this and are able to join the forces who knows what they may be asked to do.

My post said to anyone that hates her, not you particularly, and everyone views things differently in life, there is no right or wrong, just opinions on here and I have given an opinion.

And you should then be aware Pete they get a right Royal Rollocking for doing that. It isn't acceptable.

Any seizure can cost a life. If you knowingly try and lead a battery of men and women with a condition like that imo you should be sent to jail. Imagine blacking out during a mission in Iraq or Afghanistan. She's a stupid stupid self serving human being who cares only about her own wants and needs. (That in itself isn't really good when having to work in a team).

As I've said before, we cannot live a life of ifs and buts.

If she hadn't been rumbled she may very well have put many lives in danger. Luckily she was booted because they found out before she had a chance to.

You can however live a life calling out ignorance and zero care for others and self importance and lack of duty of care of others.

And as I said earlier, if Hitler hadn't been born there wouldn't have been a WWII - but that's irrelevant because that didn't happen, much like any accident during Katie's training.

Wrong. Completely and utterly wrong. And sent to jail?! What planet are you living on? Do you yourself or do you know anyone that suffers with epilepsy? It is a vast and much more complex condition than just blacking out and having a "fit". Oh my God, someone educate this poor person, please!!!

Oh, I quite agree.

But when you know you aren't up to par and knowingly lie about something to suit your own needs then I think your integrity should be questioned.

Don't you?

Or maybe a person with limited sight wanting to be a driving instructor is ok? Taking young kids out on driving lessons just because that was their sole aim in life? And by hook or by crook one way or another they were going to do it. So they lied on forms etc etc.

You have to be sensible and realise your own restrictions. I'd say that was correct?

As millions of people do every day, probably.

I've given my opinions on this, I don't see if benefiting anyone to go over it all again.