IF that were true from Nadia's side, then she'd not continue to take the p out of stupid little things like the way Katie walks, - I don't believe a word of it, Nadia couldn't stand Katie before she went into the House and still can't , and that won't change, regardless of what spiel Nadia comes out with -she's still acting like a moody bitchy teen towards a girl at school she doesn't like. It's embarrassing, and obvious.

The whole house has heard the Get Perez Out chants for weeks! That's not it!

Nothing more than tired prize fighters catching their breath, taking a sip of water, being sponged down and getting their gloves taped up, waiting for the bell to ring for the next round.


Ding. Ding.

That's a very good post.

There is no reason for Hopkins to sideline/ostracise Nadia - she is too pig headed to alter her behaviour.

I said something similar the other day, I think that Katie H has shown that she respects Nadia, even if she doesn't agree with her or understand her perspective, she respects Nadia.


I didn't see any other housemate telling Perez off either - as Nadia said, she's not his mother. Katie H, to whom the remarks were aimed, is perfectly capable of defending herself. She doesn't need a knight in shining armour.


Well, just to be picky, one could turn it around and say that Nadia didn't need to feel grateful that Katie H suddenly thinks she can be fun either, the Katie H stamp of approval They were both fairly condescending to each other in that clip I thought, smiling through gritted teeth.

If Nadia wanted to use Katie H to win, she'd be all over her like a leash.

Nadia has heard the 'Get Perez out' chants several times now and she has also been booed. Where as Katie has been cheered.

She's well aware that she's not loved by the public (going by that reception) and that by aligning herself with Perez she has made herself unpopular in and out the house. Think about it. She is more likely to be nominated and get evicted as a result. She is going 'against' the favourite.

That's not using Katie to win at all. Nadia is going against the grain.

If she wanted to make herself popular, she'd isolate Perez as the other HM have done and be up Hopkins bum hole.

Yeah, that's very true actually. Denise Welch targeted Michael Madsen, Coleen Nolan targeted Julie Goodyear, Linda Nolan targeted Jim Davidson and now Nadia is targeting Katie H. McGiffin was the only one of them I actually liked

Just shows the kind of nutcases they get for that show

Nadia does not like Hopkins................millions of people in this country do not like her but you are blinkered in your view of Hopkins if you think that she will not do exactly the same thing over again with regards to Nadia and Perez. Hopkins is a nasty piece of work with no ethics or empathy, she will stamp over anyone and demand that her view is the only view, its pretty much the same as a lot of her followers too.

but surely the same can be said about Katie. Are you forgetting that it was only a few days ago that Katie layed right into Nadia while she was in bed, for simply associating herself with Perez. She was completely vile towards her.

Nadia calling Katie an exhibitionist - a single comment - is not even a fraction of callous behaviour compared to what Katie has shown her.

Holy Moly - Perez flirting with Katie H on BOTS
she shouldn't get so close to him,
Aaaaah Perez's new tactic.............. be nice to Katie H

BLIMEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THERE ??????????
GROUNDBREAKING

they got within a millimetre of eachother !
who'd have thought ? that was hilarious , but left me traumatised

Kavana pointed out that Nadia has gone to far with the Perez support to back out now, she's trapped herself. If she stays with Perez, she'll be disliked and if she dumps him for Katie H she'll be seen as a backstabber. Her original game plan to oppose Katie H in every way has backfired

I'm not 'blinkered' I can see what Nadia's doing , - as some others also see it from a different perspective to you, - and Katie's not a nasty piece of work at all, that's a very OTT comment .,,,,,,,,,If you'd said Perez was nasty..........yes I've seen he can be ! but different scale isn't he. (off the scale to be fair!)

Katie H listens , she doesn't talk OVER people when they speak, she also responds to their point , but Nadia says her bit, then shuts down, and interrupts others when they speak, totally dismissive and uninterested in what they have to say- that is because she's so bossy, I expect everyone to keep the peace in the outside world, just agrees with her, as it's not worth the energy arguing with her.

Perez chasing Katie for a hug Imo they are working as a pact to help each other.

I think Perez's gameplan has changed.
And that was the start.
He's brilliant, very clever .

Wow. Katie gets saved and huge cheers from crowd - Nadia places her head up her bottom.

Nope, not surprised.

I saw it as genuine, Nadia and Katie have such polar opinions and ideals. From the start Katie accepted it. Nadia does now as well. Simple. They will never be friends but have reached a truce, I am glad.

I pay no attention to what ever Kavana says.

It's true that she will look bad what ever action she takes now but there is no evidence to suggest that this is the reason she defends him. It's just a theory which has little substance.

Nadia, what ever people think of her, has argued her points well. She has explained why she is being treated unfairly because of her friendship with Perez and had has made some honest points to Katie.

She has also told Perez when she's found him to be in the wrong. This is something that other HMs have also reiterated.

Nadia I believe is not only loyal but quite reasonable and objective.

There is no need for her complimenting Katie as being anything other than what it is. Sometimes a compliment can just be a compliment.

Seriously..........Saying she is a nasty piece of work is a compliment tbh because I could go to town on what I really think of her, I was being generous.

She is hateful and full of loathing with no empathy and no sincerity whatsoever, I dont even believe that she believes half of the tripe she spouts. No she gets off on being cruel and hurtful to others, its like a drug to her and that is how she gets her fix......by being cruel and heartless, if you support someone like that then good luck to you.

From the very first night Nadia had nominated herself as 'the anti-Katie' and said she would 'bring her down', that was her gameplan all along, she came in with a grudge. That grudge led to her supporting Perez since he is against Katie too. Unfortunately for Nadia, Katie is liked by the public which she obviously didn't expect when she went in so her plan has gone tits up, now she is stuck with the unpopular Perez

What the public THINK , is more important to Nadia than what Katie thinks of her - bear that in mind. So that's the alterior motive for Nadia responding to Katie when Katie said she liked the fun Nadia...........and that is why she replied that she was starting to see a good side to Katie.

It was bit backhanded compliment (fish around for it !) but it was there, but for whose benefit..? ...........not Katies......, it was for Nadia's own image and benefit. - it's all about self preservation now and trying to impact how she's being perceived. Those boos had an impact on Nadia, so wheels in motion to try change that, starting by responding to Katie because she was welcoming to Nadia first. She wasn't going to shun her, it would have looked bad on Nadia ! All very clever stuff going on.

Lets be honest, they must have all had preconceived ideas about Katie before they entered the house. Many have already admitted this in the house already. Given what Katie has said, it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack, looking for someone who won't have a sense of trepidation living in a house with her.

Lucky for some, their views changed.

For Nadia, it didn't. Could her bias and dislike for Katie have played a role in that? Absolutely but like Nadia said she is the "anti-Katie". Nadia knows herself and she knows she's the complete opposite to Katie. Katie's view is "my opinion is right. You have to accept it. You are in the wrong". Nadia however is a lot more open and does leave room for disagreement. This is exactly where they clash. Other HM will bow down to Katie. Nadia however will challenge her.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Perez's popularity either. Yeah he's getting boed but that guy has finalist written all over him.

Bitter? She is protecting Perez so is not the one that Hopkins is directly targeting....and I don't see Perez being bitter either.

When I asked if Nadia is horrible what does that make Hopkins...I mean in perspective/comparison. Hallo??? They are both there in the house so if you are using the adjective 'horrible' can you ignore who else this word fits like a glove in there? That would require honesty though.....hmmm...

Nadia THINKS she's the complete opposite of Katie e.g. 'Katie is the evil wicked witch that everyone hates and Nadia is the moralistic angel to save the public from this demon' - Nadia's huge ego working overtime. Turns out Katie isn't the horrible person Nadia thought she would be and a lot of people actually like her

I don't think Nadia is open to disagreement because like you said, she has refused to let go of the biased grudge she has had against Katie from day 1 while others have


Well the final is only about a week away, but the public have clearly given their verdict on him by putting him up for every eviction instead of giving him a pass to the final

Well said.

Ha...you think it was a game plan? She genuinely dislikes Hopkins...I thought that much was obvious. In fact, on the first night, she told Hopkins to her face that they were opposites.