Apple sold 74.5M iPhones in Q4 2015

Faust · 31-01-2015, 11:46

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Most people change they phones every 2 years because it reflects the usual contract durations. Nobody is forcing you to change phone of course. You could always switch to cheap SIM only deal and keep your current phone.

You cannot compare a desktop computer which never moves from your desk to a smartphone that is on your person whenever you leave the house and has to suffer the knocks and bumps of the real world. Completely different things.

Are you mad? Why would anyone with a modicum of financial acumen choose a contract over an outright purchase? I always choose SIM only deals. Purchased my first mobile in 1994.

calico_pie · 31-01-2015, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Faust

Well I here what you say, but you don't quantify in any way. I am a user of both so please quantify as I must be missing something.

So you can't believe that most people just buy iPhones because they actually prefer them....

But you do believe that people buy them because they have somehow been tricked, conned, or unwittingly persuaded to become part of some cult like collective?

And would never buy them were it not for the trick, the con, or the overwhelming power of persuasion to make them buy something they ordinarily would not buy?

calico_pie · 31-01-2015, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Faust

Are you mad? Why would anyone with a modicum of financial acumen choose a contract over an outright purchase? I always choose SIM only deals. Purchased my first mobile in 1994.

For the same reason people buy stuff on credit all the time - smaller initial outlay.

I know you're having difficulty with the whole idea that different people do things differently to you, to have a different preference or opinion to you.

But the fact is that many people just won't share your opinions and preferences.

Faust · 31-01-2015, 11:56

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Originally Posted by d123

So to rationalise your trolling argument you want to compare a budget offering to the premium offering of another?

The top of the range Xperia is the Z3, which just happens to be £549 from Sony.

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/phones/xperia-z3/

You just don't seem to be able to understand that almost all the top manufacturers launch their flagships at £500+, sometimes they might have to drop their price at some stage after launch becuase sales slow down but that doesn't change the original asking price.

Whether a person chooses an iPhone 6, a Galaxy s5, a Note 4, or an Xperia Z3 at launch price doesn't make them a sucker or a mug, maybe they just want the best available and not the budget or compact version and have the money to buy it.

It does make you look like a mug for making the asinine comments though...

Whoa! hold on there cowboy - if you look at the Z3 Compact you will find the specs to be just the same as its larger sibling (which by the way is what you are quoting). That is the point with the Z3C unlike many smaller versions of big brother the Compact hasn't been compromised in any way.

You therefore need to compare the iPhone 6 with the Z3 Compact. Now just shop around - the two phones were release almost at the same time but you can get just as good a phone for almost £200 less and that price differential has not changed.

I'm still waiting for someone to show me (as a current user of iOS) why I should be liking it so much better than Android and why it is so much easier.

alanwarwic · 31-01-2015, 11:59

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Originally Posted by swordman

you have almost both morphed into the same person, not sure which version would be worse though

And just try and find a post where they showed any genuinely informative interest in Apple themselves.

People masseurs ?

calico_pie · 31-01-2015, 12:04

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

And just try and find a post where they showed any genuinely informative interest in Apple themselves.

People masseurs ?

If you two want to post these sort of petty and pointless digs at other posters could you take it to PM please?

Meanwhile, could you tell us a bit more about what you think happened with iCloud?

psionic · 31-01-2015, 12:17

This reminds me of a hilarious thread a few years ago, where one poster couldn't see the point of smartphones versus buying the Daily Telegraph. Still it is handy for lining budgerigar cages I guess !

d123 · 31-01-2015, 12:23

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Originally Posted by Faust

Whoa! hold on there cowboy - if you look at the Z3 Compact you will find the specs to be just the same as its larger sibling (which by the way is what you are quoting).

Are you as obtuse in real life? I'm not arguing individual models, I'm criticising your idiocy in saying that anyone spending £500+ on ANY phone is a mug and a sucker.

By the way, even while I would disagree with your comparison of the budget version Z3 compact as a direct comparison to the iPhone 6, the current price of the Z3 compact at both Sony and CPW is actually £429, so hardly a huge difference to the iPhone 6, especially considering the differences in after sales service.

jonner101 · 31-01-2015, 12:56

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Originally Posted by Faust

Whoa! hold on there cowboy - if you look at the Z3 Compact you will find the specs to be just the same as its larger sibling (which by the way is what you are quoting). That is the point with the Z3C unlike many smaller versions of big brother the Compact hasn't been compromised in any way.

You therefore need to compare the iPhone 6 with the Z3 Compact. Now just shop around - the two phones were release almost at the same time but you can get just as good a phone for almost £200 less and that price differential has not changed.

I'm still waiting for someone to show me (as a current user of iOS) why I should be liking it so much better than Android and why it is so much easier.

You just don't get it do you. People are not the same and prefer different things. If you prefer Android then so what, who cares. I'm not going to tell someone they are stupid if the prefer Android over iOS. There are pros and cons to either system.

You seem to be unable to distinguish between opinion and fact calling anyone stupid if they don't share your opinion which seems to me just uncalled for.

alanwarwic · 31-01-2015, 12:58

So what ?

That big revolutionary 6" LG FLex is £230. There has to be at least a dozen reasons why someone would prefer it to any forgivably flawed iPhone.

Yet the £100 Moto G LTE competes in Z3 compact territory.

And hey, if I was to walk into a Apple store to get mugged for £700, I'd really expect them to kiss my feet, not high five me like an old friend !

kidspud · 31-01-2015, 13:00

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

And just try and find a post where they showed any genuinely informative interest in Apple themselves.

People masseurs ?

I think that is a bit harsh, only yesterday I demonstrated that comments you were making against Apple where either at the best inaccurate, or at worst a deliberate attempt to mislead.

swordman · 31-01-2015, 13:19

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

If you two want to post these sort of petty and pointless digs at other posters could you take it to PM please?

Meanwhile, could you tell us a bit more about what you think happened with iCloud?

Do you think you are the arbiter of what should and should not be posted, bizarre?

Perhaps the very fact all KidPie posts end with the usual immediate dismissal and subsequent request for explanation is the issue. If some actual pertinent points were made you may be right, unfortunately you are not.

kidspud · 31-01-2015, 13:23

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Originally Posted by Faust

I'm still waiting for someone to show me (as a current user of iOS) why I should be liking it so much better than Android and why it is so much easier.

I thought you had provided the reason. You said ios was easier to use. If that is the case I would imagine that is a very good reason. After all, people want to use their devices, not spend their time working out how to use it.

alanwarwic · 31-01-2015, 13:24

Yes, pertinent points indeed would be nice.
Like highlighting something anything so called 'misleading' with a 'more accurate' account.

Want to start on 'iBeacon' ? This is after all meant to be a discussion forum so why nearly never ever any discussion of so called user stuff ?

kidspud · 31-01-2015, 13:26

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Originally Posted by swordman

Do you think you are the arbiter of what should and should not be posted, bizarre?

Perhaps the very fact all KidPie posts end with the usual immediate dismissal and subsequent request for explanation is the issue. If some actual pertinent points were made you may be right, unfortunately you are not.

You are a genius. I wonder what the other half of the SwordAw team will think.

d123 · 31-01-2015, 13:27

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

So what ?

That big revolutionary 6" LG FLex is £230. There has to be at least a dozen reasons why someone would prefer it to any forgivably flawed iPhone.

Yet the £100 Moto G LTE competes in Z3 compact territory.

And hey, if I was to walk into a Apple store to get mugged for £700, I'd really expect them to kiss my feet, not high five me like an old friend !

You don't get it do you (now that's a surprise!)

You disagree with a comparison to a budget LG, and then agree by making a comparison to the Moto G. Do you understand that some people are willing to pay for a high end phone? Whether it be an iPhone, a Sony or a Samsung? And spending £500/600/700 doesn't make them a mug or a sucker, or that they were mugged?

Some people (many, it would seem) can afford to spend that amount and do, and maybe people like you or Faust cant get it (or it seems like too much to spend in your/his opinion for whatever reason), that's why phones like the Moto G are on the market, for those who can't afford or don't want to pay for a flagship phone.

By the way, what is a "forgivably flawed iPhone"?

So, let's try the same question on you, why is it being mugged to buy a high end iPhone but you fail to mention the same for a high end Samsung?

kidspud · 31-01-2015, 13:27

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Yes, pertinent points indeed would be nice.
Like highlighting something anything so called 'misleading' with a 'more accurate' account.

Want to start on 'iBeacon' ? This is after all meant to be a discussion forum so why nearly never ever any discussion of so called user stuff ?

No, let's start with you telling us about iCloud, we can then move onto ibeacon if you wish.

Actually, I've no problem you starting with ibeacon. Tell us about you experience with it.

alanwarwic · 31-01-2015, 13:33

Still with that masseur mentioned I see. Apple might only have '1 way' but surely forum people can have 2 way discussions ?

kidspud · 31-01-2015, 13:33

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Originally Posted by d123

You don't get it do you (now that's a surprise!)

You disagree with a comparison to a budget LG, and then agree by making a comparison to the Moto G. Do you understand that some people are willing to pay for a high end phone? Whether it be an iPhone, a Sony or a Samsung? And spending £500/600/700 doesn't make them a mug or a sucker, or that they were mugged?

Some people (many, it would seem) can afford to spend that amount and do, and maybe people like you or Faust cant get it (or it seems like too much to spend in your/his opinion for whatever reason), that's why phones like the Moto G are on the market, for those who can't afford or don't want to pay for a flagship phone.

By the way, what is a "forgivably flawed iPhone"?

So, let's try the same question on you, why is it being mugged to buy a high end iPhone but you fail to mention the same for a high end Samsung?

haven't you heard, there are literally millions of happy customers walking around with a flawed device.

Faust · 31-01-2015, 13:33

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

So you can't believe that most people just buy iPhones because they actually prefer them....

But you do believe that people buy them because they have somehow been tricked, conned, or unwittingly persuaded to become part of some cult like collective?

And would never buy them were it not for the trick, the con, or the overwhelming power of persuasion to make them buy something they ordinarily would not buy?

When I asked for someone to quantify the reasons why the OS is better than Android I didn't expect another airy fairy diatribe, but examples of operation.

kidspud · 31-01-2015, 13:35

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Still with that masseur mentioned I see.

Still unable to explain any of your stupid comments I see.

Anyhow, I'm stop the pretty comments and just continue to pick you up on your misleading comments. Otherwise this thread will be closed.

BKM · 31-01-2015, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Faust

When I asked for someone to quantify the reasons why the OS is better than Android I didn't expect another airy fairy diatribe, but examples of operation.

As you are a troll why should anyone bother???

Faust · 31-01-2015, 13:38

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Originally Posted by kidspud

I thought you had provided the reason. You said ios was easier to use. If that is the case I would imagine that is a very good reason. After all, people want to use their devices, not spend their time working out how to use it.

So you have nothing to tempt me, only empty rhetoric - I thought so.

tdenson · 31-01-2015, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Faust

Wow, that statement would stand up to scrutiny - not.

Yes, I think it would actually -

CP said
"Originally Posted by calico_pie
Unless I'm missing something, the fact that people choose one phone over another pretty much is evidence the that they prefer the phone they choose."

In other words he said they "choose" something because they "prefer" it.

Now let's look at the dictionary.com definition of choose -

"1. to select from a number of possibilities; pick by preference:"

Are you getting it yet ...... There is a connection between the word choose and prefer.

Faust · 31-01-2015, 13:41

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Originally Posted by BKM

As you are a troll why should anyone bother???

Again you knowledge of iOS appears to zero. As a long time user myself I suspect you will have little in your arsenal that takes me by surprise.

31-01-2015, 11:46	#251
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic Most people change they phones every 2 years because it reflects the usual contract durations. Nobody is forcing you to change phone of course. You could always switch to cheap SIM only deal and keep your current phone. You cannot compare a desktop computer which never moves from your desk to a smartphone that is on your person whenever you leave the house and has to suffer the knocks and bumps of the real world. Completely different things. Are you mad? Why would anyone with a modicum of financial acumen choose a contract over an outright purchase? I always choose SIM only deals. Purchased my first mobile in 1994.

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31-01-2015, 11:49	#252
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust Well I here what you say, but you don't quantify in any way. I am a user of both so please quantify as I must be missing something. So you can't believe that most people just buy iPhones because they actually prefer them.... But you do believe that people buy them because they have somehow been tricked, conned, or unwittingly persuaded to become part of some cult like collective? And would never buy them were it not for the trick, the con, or the overwhelming power of persuasion to make them buy something they ordinarily would not buy?

31-01-2015, 11:51	#253
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust Are you mad? Why would anyone with a modicum of financial acumen choose a contract over an outright purchase? I always choose SIM only deals. Purchased my first mobile in 1994. For the same reason people buy stuff on credit all the time - smaller initial outlay. I know you're having difficulty with the whole idea that different people do things differently to you, to have a different preference or opinion to you. But the fact is that many people just won't share your opinions and preferences.

31-01-2015, 11:56	#254
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 So to rationalise your trolling argument you want to compare a budget offering to the premium offering of another? The top of the range Xperia is the Z3, which just happens to be £549 from Sony. http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/phones/xperia-z3/ You just don't seem to be able to understand that almost all the top manufacturers launch their flagships at £500+, sometimes they might have to drop their price at some stage after launch becuase sales slow down but that doesn't change the original asking price. Whether a person chooses an iPhone 6, a Galaxy s5, a Note 4, or an Xperia Z3 at launch price doesn't make them a sucker or a mug, maybe they just want the best available and not the budget or compact version and have the money to buy it. It does make you look like a mug for making the asinine comments though... Whoa! hold on there cowboy - if you look at the Z3 Compact you will find the specs to be just the same as its larger sibling (which by the way is what you are quoting). That is the point with the Z3C unlike many smaller versions of big brother the Compact hasn't been compromised in any way. You therefore need to compare the iPhone 6 with the Z3 Compact. Now just shop around - the two phones were release almost at the same time but you can get just as good a phone for almost £200 less and that price differential has not changed. I'm still waiting for someone to show me (as a current user of iOS) why I should be liking it so much better than Android and why it is so much easier.

31-01-2015, 11:59	#255
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman you have almost both morphed into the same person, not sure which version would be worse though And just try and find a post where they showed any genuinely informative interest in Apple themselves. People masseurs ?

31-01-2015, 12:04	#256
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic And just try and find a post where they showed any genuinely informative interest in Apple themselves. People masseurs ? If you two want to post these sort of petty and pointless digs at other posters could you take it to PM please? Meanwhile, could you tell us a bit more about what you think happened with iCloud?

31-01-2015, 12:17	#257
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	This reminds me of a hilarious thread a few years ago, where one poster couldn't see the point of smartphones versus buying the Daily Telegraph. Still it is handy for lining budgerigar cages I guess !

31-01-2015, 12:23	#258
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust Whoa! hold on there cowboy - if you look at the Z3 Compact you will find the specs to be just the same as its larger sibling (which by the way is what you are quoting). Are you as obtuse in real life? I'm not arguing individual models, I'm criticising your idiocy in saying that anyone spending £500+ on ANY phone is a mug and a sucker. By the way, even while I would disagree with your comparison of the budget version Z3 compact as a direct comparison to the iPhone 6, the current price of the Z3 compact at both Sony and CPW is actually £429, so hardly a huge difference to the iPhone 6, especially considering the differences in after sales service.

31-01-2015, 12:56	#259
jonner101 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,153	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust Whoa! hold on there cowboy - if you look at the Z3 Compact you will find the specs to be just the same as its larger sibling (which by the way is what you are quoting). That is the point with the Z3C unlike many smaller versions of big brother the Compact hasn't been compromised in any way. You therefore need to compare the iPhone 6 with the Z3 Compact. Now just shop around - the two phones were release almost at the same time but you can get just as good a phone for almost £200 less and that price differential has not changed. I'm still waiting for someone to show me (as a current user of iOS) why I should be liking it so much better than Android and why it is so much easier. You just don't get it do you. People are not the same and prefer different things. If you prefer Android then so what, who cares. I'm not going to tell someone they are stupid if the prefer Android over iOS. There are pros and cons to either system. You seem to be unable to distinguish between opinion and fact calling anyone stupid if they don't share your opinion which seems to me just uncalled for.

31-01-2015, 12:58	#260
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	So what ? That big revolutionary 6" LG FLex is £230. There has to be at least a dozen reasons why someone would prefer it to any forgivably flawed iPhone. Yet the £100 Moto G LTE competes in Z3 compact territory. And hey, if I was to walk into a Apple store to get mugged for £700, I'd really expect them to kiss my feet, not high five me like an old friend !

31-01-2015, 13:00	#261
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic And just try and find a post where they showed any genuinely informative interest in Apple themselves. People masseurs ? I think that is a bit harsh, only yesterday I demonstrated that comments you were making against Apple where either at the best inaccurate, or at worst a deliberate attempt to mislead.

31-01-2015, 13:19	#262
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie If you two want to post these sort of petty and pointless digs at other posters could you take it to PM please? Meanwhile, could you tell us a bit more about what you think happened with iCloud? Do you think you are the arbiter of what should and should not be posted, bizarre? Perhaps the very fact all KidPie posts end with the usual immediate dismissal and subsequent request for explanation is the issue. If some actual pertinent points were made you may be right, unfortunately you are not.

31-01-2015, 13:23	#263
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust I'm still waiting for someone to show me (as a current user of iOS) why I should be liking it so much better than Android and why it is so much easier. I thought you had provided the reason. You said ios was easier to use. If that is the case I would imagine that is a very good reason. After all, people want to use their devices, not spend their time working out how to use it.

31-01-2015, 13:24	#264
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Yes, pertinent points indeed would be nice. Like highlighting something anything so called 'misleading' with a 'more accurate' account. Want to start on 'iBeacon' ? This is after all meant to be a discussion forum so why nearly never ever any discussion of so called user stuff ?

31-01-2015, 13:26	#265
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Do you think you are the arbiter of what should and should not be posted, bizarre? Perhaps the very fact all KidPie posts end with the usual immediate dismissal and subsequent request for explanation is the issue. If some actual pertinent points were made you may be right, unfortunately you are not. You are a genius. I wonder what the other half of the SwordAw team will think.

31-01-2015, 13:27	#266
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic So what ? That big revolutionary 6" LG FLex is £230. There has to be at least a dozen reasons why someone would prefer it to any forgivably flawed iPhone. Yet the £100 Moto G LTE competes in Z3 compact territory. And hey, if I was to walk into a Apple store to get mugged for £700, I'd really expect them to kiss my feet, not high five me like an old friend ! You don't get it do you (now that's a surprise!) You disagree with a comparison to a budget LG, and then agree by making a comparison to the Moto G. Do you understand that some people are willing to pay for a high end phone? Whether it be an iPhone, a Sony or a Samsung? And spending £500/600/700 doesn't make them a mug or a sucker, or that they were mugged? Some people (many, it would seem) can afford to spend that amount and do, and maybe people like you or Faust cant get it (or it seems like too much to spend in your/his opinion for whatever reason), that's why phones like the Moto G are on the market, for those who can't afford or don't want to pay for a flagship phone. By the way, what is a "forgivably flawed iPhone"? So, let's try the same question on you, why is it being mugged to buy a high end iPhone but you fail to mention the same for a high end Samsung?

31-01-2015, 13:27	#267
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Yes, pertinent points indeed would be nice. Like highlighting something anything so called 'misleading' with a 'more accurate' account. Want to start on 'iBeacon' ? This is after all meant to be a discussion forum so why nearly never ever any discussion of so called user stuff ? No, let's start with you telling us about iCloud, we can then move onto ibeacon if you wish. Actually, I've no problem you starting with ibeacon. Tell us about you experience with it.

31-01-2015, 13:33	#268
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Still with that masseur mentioned I see. Apple might only have '1 way' but surely forum people can have 2 way discussions ?

31-01-2015, 13:33	#269
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 You don't get it do you (now that's a surprise!) You disagree with a comparison to a budget LG, and then agree by making a comparison to the Moto G. Do you understand that some people are willing to pay for a high end phone? Whether it be an iPhone, a Sony or a Samsung? And spending £500/600/700 doesn't make them a mug or a sucker, or that they were mugged? Some people (many, it would seem) can afford to spend that amount and do, and maybe people like you or Faust cant get it (or it seems like too much to spend in your/his opinion for whatever reason), that's why phones like the Moto G are on the market, for those who can't afford or don't want to pay for a flagship phone. By the way, what is a "forgivably flawed iPhone"? So, let's try the same question on you, why is it being mugged to buy a high end iPhone but you fail to mention the same for a high end Samsung? haven't you heard, there are literally millions of happy customers walking around with a flawed device.

31-01-2015, 13:33	#270
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie So you can't believe that most people just buy iPhones because they actually prefer them.... But you do believe that people buy them because they have somehow been tricked, conned, or unwittingly persuaded to become part of some cult like collective? And would never buy them were it not for the trick, the con, or the overwhelming power of persuasion to make them buy something they ordinarily would not buy? When I asked for someone to quantify the reasons why the OS is better than Android I didn't expect another airy fairy diatribe, but examples of operation.

31-01-2015, 13:35	#271
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Still with that masseur mentioned I see. Still unable to explain any of your stupid comments I see. Anyhow, I'm stop the pretty comments and just continue to pick you up on your misleading comments. Otherwise this thread will be closed.

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Apple sold 74.5M iPhones in Q4 2015

31-01-2015, 13:38	#272
BKM Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,288	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust When I asked for someone to quantify the reasons why the OS is better than Android I didn't expect another airy fairy diatribe, but examples of operation. As you are a troll why should anyone bother???

31-01-2015, 13:38	#273
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud I thought you had provided the reason. You said ios was easier to use. If that is the case I would imagine that is a very good reason. After all, people want to use their devices, not spend their time working out how to use it. So you have nothing to tempt me, only empty rhetoric - I thought so.

31-01-2015, 13:40	#274
tdenson Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,214	Quote: Originally Posted by Faust Wow, that statement would stand up to scrutiny - not. Yes, I think it would actually - CP said "Originally Posted by calico_pie Unless I'm missing something, the fact that people choose one phone over another pretty much is evidence the that they prefer the phone they choose." In other words he said they "choose" something because they "prefer" it. Now let's look at the dictionary.com definition of choose - "1. to select from a number of possibilities; pick by preference:" Are you getting it yet ...... There is a connection between the word choose and prefer.

31-01-2015, 13:41	#275
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by BKM As you are a troll why should anyone bother??? Again you knowledge of iOS appears to zero. As a long time user myself I suspect you will have little in your arsenal that takes me by surprise.