[Faust]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

Well, according to Faust scientific research his daughters friends will think you are a celebrity

Do you ever bring anything to these debates other than your outrageous mis-quotes?

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Do you ever bring anything to these debates other than your outrageous mis-quotes?

Yes. How about yourself?

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by psionic

I'm sure you're going to link this independent research that has 'confirmed it time and time again'. No doubt you're going to be meticulous and find something credible and scientific.

How can there be 'bragging rights' (whatever the hell that means) if the choice is so mass market and common millions of people have made the same choice? Does 'bragging rights' in your world mean 'common'?

Also how exactly is your choice of smartphone going to affect your lifestyle? How would it differ by choosing another brand?

You demonstrate an amazing lack of knowledge about the function of society and peer pressure.

[jonner101]

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Originally Posted by Faust

You demonstrate an amazing lack of knowledge about the function of society and peer pressure.

You are clearly trolling now.

My guess this thread hasn't got too long before it gets locked.
As usual with an apple thread on here it just descends to pointless off topic arguments.

[psionic]

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Originally Posted by Faust

You demonstrate an amazing lack of knowledge about the function of society and peer pressure.

And yet you cannot answer any of of questions to back up your claims. I'm glad we cleared that up.

[d123]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Totally ridiculous response. You have no knowledge of my financial situation yet you make a sweeping unsubstantiated statement.

You also appear to ignore the fact I own many Apple products so how does your assertion about service stack up.

I know several quite wealthy people who are incredibly penny pinching. In fact showing off conspicuous wealth is rather crass.

I don't like large screen phones hence my reference to Compacts - at competitive prices.

TBH your posts are getting hysterical and to be taken with a rather large pinch of salt.

You still don't get it, no one cares about you personally.

Your trolling attempt to label iPhone buyers as mugs and suckers is the issue. I don't care if you are a hobo in the gutter, or a member of the Royal Family. It isn't for you to decide that other people are mugs or suckers because they want to buy an iPhone 6 or Galaxy Note 4.

Learn that others have different ideas on what is too much to spend, realise that some people will pay for the added value of dealing with Apple.

Be happy with your tier 2 phone and be happy that you have saved your money to buy whatever is more important to you. Be happy in the realisation that others might have more surplus income and might even want a gold plated iPhone, if they can afford it it doesn't make them a sucker or a mug.

It makes you a mug for not realising other people have different opinions.

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by d123

You still don't get it, no one cares about you personally.

Your trolling attempt to label iPhone buyers as mugs and suckers is the issue. I don't care if you are a hobo in the gutter, or a member of the Royal Family. It isn't for you to decide that other people are mugs or suckers because they want to buy an iPhone 6 or Galaxy Note 4.

Learn that others have different ideas on what is too much to spend, realise that some people will pay for the added value of dealing with Apple.

Be happy with your tier 2 phone and be happy that you have saved your money to buy whatever is more important to you. Be happy in the realisation that others might have more surplus income and might even want a gold plated iPhone, if they can afford it it doesn't make them a sucker or a mug.

It makes you a mug for not realising other people have different opinions.

What I assert is simply an opinion, I'm pretty confident that what I assert is correct but it is nonetheless just an opinion.

I just thank god I am able to debate such matters without resorting to crass rudeness.

[jabbamk1]

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Originally Posted by Faust

What I assert is simply an opinion


what I assert is correct

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/powerrangers.gif

[d123]

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/powerrangers.gif

That just about sums it up .

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/powerrangers.gif

Oh dear! and how old are you?

[Everything Goes]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Oh dear! and how old are you?

He's not anywhere near as old as DevonBloke

[jabbamk1]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Oh dear! and how old are you?

No one is too old for Power Rangers!

IT'S MORPHIN TIME! LETS ROCKET!

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

I would say a very significant amount of people only buy android phones because they are cheap. Independent research has confirmed this time and again.

Have they? Which research is this?

Is it not the case they may buy the phone because they like it?

Recognise that question?

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

I didn't say that no-one does it - the point is simply that, even on contract, the (total) cost of phones varies considerably, depending on which phone you get, and which contract you take out.

And different people will get different phones, even on a contract, depending on the (total) cost they are prepared to pay.

Therefore cost is an issue. I don't know why you would try to argue that it isn't.

The difference in global market share between Android and iOS is largely down to the fact that Android phones are available at a wider range of costs than the iPhone. Including on contract.

Again, we were talking about buying the phone outright until you added arms and legs on to it as always and even bringing your mother into it!

The point is, most people do NOT pay for an iPhone outright. That's fact. Most people do NOT pay outright for a high end android phone. That's fact.

[jabbamk1]

I'm surprised no one bought up the sold in / sold through debate yet.

When we gonna see this?

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Have they? Which research is this?

Is it not the case they may buy the phone because they like it?

Recognise that question?

Yes, I do recognise the question. Maybe I should of made my ridicules sweeping statement more obvious.

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

I'm surprised no one bought up the sold in / sold through debate yet.

When we gonna see this?

AW (who else!) already has

[alanwarwic]

All still massaging the egos of the buyers I see.

I'd really like to see any sort of defence of the actual product. Will it(discussion) ever happen ?

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

All still massaging the egos of the buyers I see.

I'd really like to see any sort of defence of the actual product. Will it(discussion) ever happen ?

This is (was) a thread about the record breaking sales of the iPhone in a quarter.

Why on earth do you think the product needs defending

All evidence available shows that these buyers are very happy with their choice, so not sure why you think they need massaging.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Faust

Totally ridiculous response. You have no knowledge of my financial situation yet you make a sweeping unsubstantiated statement.

You also appear to ignore the fact I own many Apple products so how does your assertion about service stack up.

I know several quite wealthy people who are incredibly penny pinching. In fact showing off conspicuous wealth is rather crass.

I don't like large screen phones hence my reference to Compacts - at competitive prices.

TBH your posts are getting hysterical and to be taken with a rather large pinch of salt.

About these Apple products you own.

Why didn't you buy cheaper equivalents? Was is because you think the Apple products are cool, all your mates have them, and you want to be part of that collective?

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Have they? Which research is this?

Is it not the case they may buy the phone because they like it?

Recognise that question?

I think with most purchases how much people are prepared to spend is a big factor.

Would you not agree?

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

I think with most purchases how much people are prepared to spend is a big factor.

Would you not agree?

Please, stop with the italics. It makes you look daft and desperate.

Not a big factor no. Especially when talking about taking a phone on contract, makes it even less important.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Please, stop with the italics. It makes you look daft and desperate.

Oh for goodness sake - it doesn't take much for you to completely over react.

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Not a big factor no. Especially when talking about taking a phone on contract, makes it even less important.

Right - so when people buy things, you don't think how much things cost is a big factor in people's purchasing decision?

You think people just buy whatever they like, and cost isn't a big factor? I'm not sure which planet you are on, but its not the same one as most people.

So with phones on contract, is your argument that no-one would have any problem paying a higher total cost of ownership for any available phone, and those who opt for a lower cost phone do so simply because they prefer the phone, not because they don't want to pay more upfront or go on a higher monthly contract?

[slattery69]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Oh for goodness sake - it doesn't take much for you to completely over react.



Right - so when people buy things, you don't think how much things cost is a big factor in people's purchasing decision?

You think people just buy whatever they like, and cost isn't a big factor? I'm not sure which planet you are on, but its not the same one as most people.

So with phones on contract, is your argument that no-one would have any problem paying a higher total cost of ownership for any available phone, and those who opt for a lower cost phone do so simply because they prefer the phone, not because they don't want to pay more upfront or go on a higher monthly contract?

I think a lot of people buy things they can't afford hence why so many people are in debt. Also I think a lot of people don't see the true costs of phone contracts. They don't see 2k plus over 2 years they just see £12.50 a week.
Go on any of the American based apple forums and many think they are getting an iPhone for $200 they simple ignore the contract element.

Do you think the avg buyer spends time researching there phone choice analysising their budget ?

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by slattery69

I think a lot of people buy things they can't afford hence why so many people are in debt. Also I think a lot of people don't see the true costs of phone contracts. They don't see 2k plus over 2 years they just see £12.50 a week.
Go on any of the American based apple forums and many think they are getting an iPhone for $200 they simple ignore the contract element.

Do you think the avg buyer spends time researching there phone choice analysising their budget ?

I'm sure some people spend more than they can afford, but I would still think cost is a key factor for most people.

Either way, how people fund an expensive phone / contract is moot, as the point was more about why people might choose a lower cost phone / contract.

If someone chooses a phone / contract for a lower specced phone with zero upfront cost and a monthly cost of £10-15 rather than one with an upfront cost of £200 and a monthly cost of £40, I don't think it should be too controversial to say that cost was more of a factor than a preference for the phone.

As long as the total cost of ownership on contract can vary significantly, I disagree with Stiggles that cost isn't a factor in people's decision about what phone to get.