[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

The example you have just given has nothing to do with android, and as I said at the time, I was not referring to the G2 (funny you highlight that one and not all the current phones also listed), and not being able to hold their price is clearly an issue (i wonder if the manufacturers are happy with the current situation). You appear to be a little sensitive to comment, I don't know why.

The samsung phones I purchased suited my needs (and currently do at this moment in time). I might consider a 5s (or an HTC) but not just yet.

As I've already said you only have to look back in this forum to show how neutral you have been over time.

Anyhow, you really shouldn't worry whether I think you are neutral or not, I'm sure others value your balanced view of things.

You talk about me selectively reading!! I highlighted 2 phones actually.

Rubbish. Alan mentioned he got a G2 for £150 or thereabouts and you said:-

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Originally Posted by kidspud

wow, they have crashed in price. Last time I looked they were £230.

It was then told to you it was a sale and other phones including the G3 which was mentioned, was a refurb and that's why it was at that low price.

You replied with:-

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Originally Posted by kidspud

Yes, they have all crashed in price rather quickly. They obviously lack something.

Lack something because one is 2 years old or one was a refurb? The flex flopped, hence its price tag.

I don''t give a hoot whether you think im neutral or not to be honest. I know i disagree on points made about apple and points made about other companies. Just you don't like to think i do. No idea why

Like others value your input on here? One thing also i have never seen is you provide any useful information or help to anyone on here. Have you ever actually done that?

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

You talk about me selectively reading!! I highlighted 2 phones actually.

Rubbish. Alan mentioned he got a G2 for £150 or thereabouts and you said:-



It was then told to you it was a sale and other phones including the G3 which was mentioned, was a refurb and that's why it was at that low price.

You replied with:-



Lack something because one is 2 years old or one was a refurb? The flex flopped, hence its price tag.

I don''t give a hoot whether you think im neutral or not to be honest. I know i disagree on points made about apple and points made about other companies. Just you don't like to think i do. No idea why

Like others value your input on here? One thing also i have never seen is you provide any useful information or help to anyone on here. Have you ever actually done that?

If you want a fine example of you selectively reading, your post quoting me is a good one. If you are saying I'm wrong and the price of the phones haven't crashed, then fine. You seem to think it is a natural thing for the price to do anyway. I'm happy to stand by my statement.

I'm glad you don't care whether I think you are neutral or not. I thought I had already made it clear that I do not think you are. I have no problem if you (or anyone else) don't value my opinion, I'm not seeking your endorsement. .

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

You talk about me selectively reading!! I highlighted 2 phones actually.

One of which was the Galaxy S5.

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

If you want a fine example of you selectively reading, your post quoting me is a good one. If you are saying I'm wrong and the price of the phones haven't crashed, then fine. You seem to think it is a natural thing for the price to do anyway. I'm happy to stand by my statement.

I'm glad you don't care whether I think you are neutral or not. I thought I had already made it clear that I do not think you are. I have no problem if you (or anyone else) don't value my opinion, I'm not seeking your endorsement. .

Your always happy to stand by your statements no matter how incorrect they are.

Do items come down in price after a while. Yes or no? That will be a yes of course.

Should i inform John lewis that they have incorrectly priced now the telly I bought months ago since its dropped several hundred pounds? In fact, I better inform every company that sell it. Same goes for my washing machine and fridge freezer!!

Or do they all just 'lack something'?

My post quoting is in order of how it happened. Your problem is you just won't admit when your wrong.

Disagree if you want, however you have a cheek to say anyone in here isn't neutral. You still can't give me an example of me not being neutral.

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

One of which was the Galaxy S5.

Uhu, and the flex both which I spoke about earlier. The flex flopped and the S5 wasn't a big update from the S4 so didn't sell very well.

Read back and ye will see.

No point trying to defend what he said when he's plain wrong.

Edit:- found it for you..

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

No red herring at all. The G2 was mentioned and i used it as an example of the older phone that would indeed drop in price since its close to 2 years old. It's still £260 but was on sale at Christmas from Vodaphone for £150 or thereabout for 3 days. The G3 was reduced as a refurb. The flex flopped hence its price drop. The S5, well it wasn't a great update over the S4 so i would agree that's the reason for that price drop.

And yes, i did say that about the 5C. Do you see or memorise every post?

EDIT: Just to add, been browsing hotukdeals for a while there and see that on 3 the iphone 6 and 6+ has been reduced by about £100 or so on each phone. Does that mean they lack something or anything else odd?

Nope, it's simply a price drop.

[swordman]

You will find it very hard driving up that one way street Stigs

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by swordman

You will find it very hard driving up that one way street Stigs

Oh look, it's swordstig

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

.

Or do they all just 'lack something'?

My post quoting is in order of how it happened. Your problem is you just won't admit when your wrong.

Yes, as I have already said twice now. They lack pricing power.

What to you think I'm wrong about?

[swordman]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

Oh look, it's swordstig

Strive for just a little originality at least

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by swordman

Strive for just a little originality at least

Interesting comment considering your recent posts.

However, you should be pleased that I admire your (comedy) genius enough to imitate it.

I can't wait for the next cracker.

[tdenson]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

An advert? It's nonsense to include contract prices?!!

Like i said, the info i got was from hotukdeals last night. People had bought the phone with up to £100 off depending on the model. Yes, some was on contract, some was sim only and a few posts mentioned buying PAYG.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ipho...36157#comments

The point is, the phone itself had been reduced in price. No arguments about it, its happened whether you like it or not. People payed less for the phone, ergo the phone had been reduced.

I'm genuinely surprised at that price, albeit you have to be a 3 customer, but even so ...

[alanwarwic]

Near £500 for a 720p phone!

Other manufacturers would form a very long queue to get that price for 2011 standard stuff.

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by tdenson

I'm genuinely surprised at that price, albeit you have to be a 3 customer, but even so ...

Indeed so was I. Belter of a real for those lucky enough to get it

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

Yes, as I have already said twice now. They lack pricing power.

What to you think I'm wrong about?

Everything?

You are either on a windup or are just plain daft. One was a refurb, one is 2 years old and 2 essentially flopped.

Now did you get all that? Its absolutely nothing to do with pricing power....

[alanwarwic]

Peak smartphone.

Apple is the exception, being 2 years behind that curve, something long planned. It was not just me have pointed out their wise clever plan as it happened.

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Everything?

You are either on a windup or are just plain daft. One was a refurb, one is 2 years old and 2 essentially flopped.

Now did you get all that? Its absolutely nothing to do with pricing power....

You seem to be getting very upset.

It has everything to do with pricing power.

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Peak smartphone.

Apple is the exception, being 2 years behind that curve, something long planned. It was not just me have pointed out their wise clever plan as it happened.

So that you don't feel ignored. Explain this wise clever plan.

[Stiggles]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

You seem to be getting very upset.

It has everything to do with pricing power.

I'm not getting upset at all.

The very fact you still ignore that out of the phones you mentioned, one is 2 years old, one was a refurb model which obviously sell for less (even refurb iphones sell for significantly less), 1 was essentially a gimmick phone which was never going to sell in large numbers and one flopped shows your ignorance on the subject. Or arrogance. One of the two.

It has absolutely nothing to do with pricing power whatsoever.

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

I'm not getting upset at all.

The very fact you still ignore that out of the phones you mentioned, one is 2 years old, one was a refurb model which obviously sell for less (even refurb iphones sell for significantly less), 1 was essentially a gimmick phone which was never going to sell in large numbers and one flopped shows your ignorance on the subject. Or arrogance. One of the two.

It has absolutely nothing to do with pricing power whatsoever.

The fact you seem to want to ignore that one of the phones is the current premier phone from the worlds largest mobile phone maker and your apparent lack of knowledge regarding pricing power shows your ignorance on the subject.

What I find humorous in this neutral world of yours is you are now dismissing the phones listed, when it was not even me that tried to use them as an example.

Oh well, I'm very happy to stand by my statement that the price of the phones have crashed. That is clearly an issue for any business.

[alanwarwic]

Seems there was even one back in May about not using small phones.
http://dazeinfo.com/2014/05/20/phabl...advertisement/

With that 'the public wants what the public gets' being quite true, the mindset is still to think they prefer a small phone but in reality prefer phablets.
It is complicated for Apple in that click through web advertising the conversion rate decreases the smaller the phone gets, so supplying phablets supports Google (and Bing too)

That negates any depreciation/stagnation of the web browser on Apple gadgets meaning Apple is likely working on doing an advert overlay for that one single web engine allowed.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Uhu, and the flex both which I spoke about earlier. The flex flopped and the S5 wasn't a big update from the S4 so didn't sell very well.

Read back and ye will see.

No point trying to defend what he said when he's plain wrong.

Edit:- found it for you..

I'm not defending anything.

But if one argument is that the price dropped because the phone was maybe a bit lacking....

...and (in the case of the S5) the argument is "it wasn't a big update from the S4 so didn't sell very well".

Then aren't those two arguments essentially the same?

[tdenson]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

I'm not getting upset at all.

The very fact you still ignore that out of the phones you mentioned, one is 2 years old, one was a refurb model which obviously sell for less (even refurb iphones sell for significantly less), 1 was essentially a gimmick phone which was never going to sell in large numbers and one flopped shows your ignorance on the subject. Or arrogance. One of the two.

It has absolutely nothing to do with pricing power whatsoever.

Despite you recent protestations to the contrary, you really are being rather argumentative over this matter. In a nutshell all Kidspud is saying is that iPhones keep their price better than Samsung phones. How can one possibly argue with that statement ?

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Seems there was even one back in May about not using small phones.
http://dazeinfo.com/2014/05/20/phabl...advertisement/

With that 'the public wants what the public gets' being quite true, the mindset is still to think they prefer a small phone but in reality prefer phablets.
It is complicated for Apple in that click through web advertising the conversion rate decreases the smaller the phone gets, so supplying phablets supports Google (and Bing too)

That negates any depreciation/stagnation of the web browser on Apple gadgets meaning Apple is likely working on doing an advert overlay for that one single web engine allowed.

So, mobiles are used for news and information, tablets are used for entertainment and game, phatlet are used to look at ads.

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by tdenson

Despite you recent protestations to the contrary, you really are being rather argumentative over this matter. In a nutshell all Kidspud is saying is that iPhones keep their price better than Samsung phones. How can one possibly argue with that statement ?

I didn't mention the iPhone. All I have said is the rapid price drop suffered is clearly an issue. I can't imagine any of the manufacturers or retail outlets being overjoyed by the situation.

[swordman]

Perhaps you can tell us all what price would constitute a non rapid price drop. While your at it what price a phone that is not lacking should be after a year, in percentage terms if you like