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Old 28-01-2015, 14:02
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Tim Cook is an idiot.

Apple have gone to hell in a hand basket since Jobs died.

Apple are doomed.


Whatever happened to all of that?
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:07
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I can understand why some Apple fans can be "proud" that their preferred product is selling so well (although, to be fair, I dont want to have the same phone as most of my mates) but I still fail to see the sense of "pride" in the fact that their favourite company is making so much "profit" ??
You're confusing people being bemused by all the talk of Apple being doomed with somehow taking pride in anything.

In fact, no-one has said anything about pride except you.

As for basing what phone you have on what phone your mates don't have - I really don't get that. So if all your mates got the same phone as you, would you feel you had to get rid of it? Even if you really liked it? Just because you don't want to have the same phone as your mates? That's mad!
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:13
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no. I think you are getting confused. Profit can be ploughed back in to R&D,
They spent 6.6 billion dollars on R&D last year.

improving working conditions,
What is wrong with the working conditions of Apple employees? Or are we still on Apple being responsible for Foxconn employees? Whilst ignoring the fact that, whilst things may not be prefect, they appear to taking steps to improve things where they can.

improving products or it can be:
Aren't their products improving?

So yes, it can be used in the manner you suggest, but is it ??
Looks as though it is, so yes.

c) used to build a $5 billion (yes thats billion) headquarters in the US (http://www.theguardian.com/artanddes...p-architecture) whilst the factories that build the units still have suicide nets in place (http://www.mobilelikez.com/world-new...y-your-iphone/.)
Hold on. This sounds exactly like the sort of thing that will greatly improve working conditions for Apple staff, which I thought you just said you wanted them to spend money on?
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:17
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It's an asset strip. The assets were placed their under Steve Jobs, the Apple brand and concepts.
Tim Cook has been working at Apple for 17 years. Anything Steve Jobs did at Apple, Tim Cook was involved in some way. It was never just Steve.

Such a thing is a huge asset, it will take a decade before it's obvious there is a decline.
I thought you said they're in decline. Now you say it will take 10 years to notice an obvious decline?

Apple is now just about using what it has and won't be creating anything really new.
Except the Apple Watch which launches in April?

Steve Jobs didn't have anything to do with the larger screen iPhone. That was all decided after he had died. He was strongly against the idea but Apple adapted and have seen their biggest phone sales quarter ever. So this suggestion that they're scraping by on Steve's legacy with no new ideas simply isn't the case.

Granted.. eventually they may decline. Nothing lasts forever. But I really don't think anyone can say they're in decline now.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:17
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You're confusing people being bemused by all the talk of Apple being doomed with somehow taking pride in anything.

In fact, no-one has said anything about pride except you.

As for basing what phone you have on what phone your mates don't have - I really don't get that. So if all your mates got the same phone as you, would you feel you had to get rid of it? Even if you really liked it? Just because you don't want to have the same phone as your mates? That's mad!
I might have a favourite jumper. If all my mates suddenly bought and wore the same one I'd probably by something different

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Old 28-01-2015, 14:20
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strongly alleged Fact
Which? Strongly alleged or fact? Either way, so what?
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:23
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Look a company is becomeing ever more scarily rich off milking their punters, I'm so happy for them I'm going to post about it

Does go to show what happens when you actually give customers "what they want", just as well for Apple they did not listen to the clueless who claimed small screens were still the future
Hello stranger.

Could you give us an update on the whole Apple is doomed thing?

No-one claimed small screens were the future.

Some people expressed a preference for a smaller screen because they found it more comfortable use, particularly with one hand.

I really don't know why you have difficulty with that simple enough fact, or feel the need to misrepresent and milk it for all its worth at every opportunity.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:25
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China and the US is their main customer base but interestingly US profit was double for prety much the same amount of sales. That seems to mean that China Telecom (or whoever that massive new dealership is) have the best deal in the world making good profits too selling the iPhone.
How do you know that. I didn't think they broke down the profit figures by region ?
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:28
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It's an asset strip. The assets were placed their under Steve Jobs, the Apple brand and concepts.

Such a thing is a huge asset, it will take a decade before it's obvious there is a decline.

Apple is now just about using what it has and won't be creating anything really new.
So how many new things did they create under Jobs?

Anyone would think he pulled some revolutionary new product out his backside every time he walked on stage.

In 15 years or so there was the Mac, the iPod, the iPhone (a bit like an iPod, but did more), and the iPad (a bigger iPhone).
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:31
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because whilst they can con the EU etc out of corporation tax,
Inflammatory nonsense. It's the EU that make the rules which they then take advantage of. It is up to the EU to change the rules. Let's not forget that Apple have a legal obligation to their shareholders to maximise profit by all legal means possible. If they didn't take advantage of generous EU legislation they could be sued by their shareholders. That's why all the big US corporations do it - for goodness sake stop singling out Apple and save your criticism for the EU legislators.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:32
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I might have a favourite jumper. If all my mates suddenly bought and wore the same one I'd probably by something different

I didn't ask about your jumper, I asked about your phone.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:33
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Originally Posted by Vernon Bennett
These profits are absolutely obscene.

Posted from my iPhone 6+

Why obscene? Obscene on the basis that they are the most successful business going at the moment? Obscene that they had the gall to build their brand so much so that when they entered the Chinese market they got it absolutely right with their bigger screens. And that after many people scoffed that they were on the wane.

Oh how we know little.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:34
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How do you know that. I didn't think they broke down the profit figures by region ?
A pre statement report I read a few days back. As it fairly tallied on China and totals etc I well believed it,

Anyway I qualified with that following post that I think Apple is likely not daring to evade China taxes like they do for the EU and UK.

The only real shock to me is the Iphone 6 making up near half of the world total sales.
It is little better than the less limiting £100+ Moto G.
Silicon tech is so advanced that even smartphones are long term heading towards a 99p digital watch commodity thing, especially without them Wintel taxes.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:38
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How do you know that. I didn't think they broke down the profit figures by region ?
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/01...in-ipad-sales/

He might be referring to this?
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:40
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I didn't ask about your jumper, I asked about your phone.
I didn't reply about my phone. I replied about my jumper.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:41
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I wonder why they are so popular?

Well at least we know there are lot of people with substantial amounts of disposable income (economy picking up).
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:47
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This gift keeps on giving
It's just wasted on some
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:48
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A pre statement report I read a few days back. As it fairly tallied on China and totals etc I well believed it,

Anyway I qualified with that following post that I think Apple is likely not daring to evade China taxes like they do for the EU and UK.

The only real shock to me is the Iphone 6 making up near half of the world total sales.
It is little better than the less limiting £100+ Moto G.
Silicon tech is so advanced that even smartphones are long term heading towards a 99p digital watch commodity thing, especially without them Wintel taxes.
Apple hasn't evaded any tax.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:56
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Which? Strongly alleged or fact? Either way, so what?
If I'd said "fact" you'd have argued as the exact details are never released by apple.

I added the alleged as its widely reported in the press but not formally confirmed.

You do like to focus on odd items.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:58
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I didn't reply about my phone. I replied about my jumper.
Yes, but I didn't ask you about your jumper, I asked about your phone.

Who knows, maybe you think that if you say it out loud or write it down, it'll sound daft, and that's why you're talking about your jumper in the hope that nobody will notice its quite different.

Either way, I'm sure you have your reasons.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:59
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If I'd said "fact" you'd have argued as the exact details are never released by apple.

I added the alleged as its widely reported in the press but not formally confirmed.

You do like to focus on odd items.
Whether or not something you are claiming as a fact actually is a fact or not really isn't that strange at all.

If in fact its only an allegation, then its not a known fact. Fact.
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Old 28-01-2015, 15:09
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... Apple have a legal obligation to their shareholders to maximise profit by all legal means possible. ...
What complete and utter reality distortion field nonsense.

And Apple really are not the 100% shite unethical company you semm to make out.

But If the shareholders do not like what directors do they vote them out.
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Old 28-01-2015, 15:13
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Nonsense.

Profit helps to continually improve the product and benefit the user.

Profit allows greater investment in technology and facilities. It is those investments that make the products desirable.

Profit is the result of providing products the user wants.

Oh, and according to recent market analysis Apple has gained market share over android (and specifically high end android devices which is where they compete).
It's not nonsense at all. If when British Gas/BT/SKY announced their last profits and i started a thread in an attempt to gloat about it, i would be absolutely ridiculed!!

It is quite sad people do this over a company who really doesn't give 2 hoots about you!
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Old 28-01-2015, 15:16
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It also appears ApplePay has started off well. Shame it all going to fail within a year
Because nothing has ever started well, then fell on its arse later!

Anyway, I'm not saying that will happen, but that just because its apple does not mean it will be a success like a lot have said it will be.
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Old 28-01-2015, 15:21
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They are now eating into Androids market share with bigger phones. Unlike Nokia which kept coming up with crazy phones some good some bad I feel Apple can dominate for decades to come.

Even Samsung are going back to other OS's rather than Android now. I reckon Amazon could be one of Apples biggest rivals in the next decade too.
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