Not all local TV channels are on air 24/7 - Notts TV has Teleshopping in the morning too (along with Peregrine Falcons live) - the core content is during evening primetime when people are more likly to be able to watch. (Although they are due to have Sam and Amy doing something at breakfast soon).

London Live latest results:-

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...makes-12m-loss

London live and many of the other local TV stations will be a major commercial success.

A major reason for this is they are not encumbered with the huge fixed costs that ITV and BBC have .
Their location on ch 8 on the EPG was a master stroke .
Once they overcome the technical glitches and coverage improves, the comercial advantage they will have in offering lower advertising rates ,will make them the Aldi and Lidle of the TV broadcast industry in the UK.
The synergies that can be applied by pooling together to produce drama at peak times will also give ITV and BBC A run for their money.
Any wise investor should get in on the ground floor and purchase shares if they are available .

Dream on...

So you would like them to fail !

How much money are you putting in?

Loads

I don't really care one way or the other. I was just pointing out that your vision of the future for local tv, as currently constructed, is just pie in the sky.

Which of the local tv companies have you invested in by the way (as per your last post) or is that just fiction as well?

If you don't care one way or the other, why click on a thread that is clearly about Local TV and why bother making snidey posts?

I started the thread since you ask!!

I was asked if I would like the local tv stations to fail and I answered honestly. I don't want them to fail but I don't care whether they do or not because I believe the whole concept of local tv as currently presented is misplaced and based on politics rather than what makes commercial and broadcasting sense.

I do believe in the concept of local and/or regional tv but believe that we are currently going the wrong way about it and may have destroyed it years ago when we let go the original ITV set up. As currently set up I don't see how it can live up to Mike 2E0MEQ's hopes.

Anyway, why don't you contribute something to the discussion instead of just accusing me of making snidey posts? What do you think of the current local tv set up.

We really do need local TV in the UK to evolve into what the IBA and independent television used to be.
We simply cannot have a monopoly in our media be it the Beeb or one large TV company controlled by someone like Murdoch .
The original concept of ITV was supposed to be set in stone and they were to be kept at arms length from the Beeb ,even down to the transmitters .
This was to safeguard our media from too much control by the state or private media monopolies.

Guess who was a key person in Carlton communications around the time they walked all over the regulators and persuaded them to allow ITV to merge into one company ,David Cameron no less , yet Ofcom and their predecessors also allowed the the privatisation of BBC broadcast and IBA .,that later was allowed to become a private monopoly , owned now by a Australian bank who were from what I have read bailed out by Australian taxpayers .
This stupid policy by the regulators did severe damage to supporting industries in the UK in all sectors in our manufacturing accross the whole of the UK and has cost thousands of highly skilled jobs.
We need local TV to fill the void left by ITV ,and I personally think it will happen .
What is needed is for Local TV to own and run their own transmitters and the planning department at Arqiva to have no input whatsoever as to frequency planning .
This should be done by Ofcoms own engineering staff without undue commercial pressure from large companies with a vested interest who wish to kill local TV

Fair do's, I can see where you're coming from now.

I've only watched Notts TV thus far, but based on that I very much appreciate the local TV service, regularly viewing the news programme in particular.

With the channel continuing to increase its' broadcast hours, Notts TV appears to be doing well. That may not be the case with other local stations, but at least Notts TV shows there is some potential for these services.

I agree and think Notts TV is a good example of the right way to go about things under the current set up. The STV stations are another good example of a good working model being linked to an existing regional broadcaster.

What I don't believe is that these local TV stations can be a "major commercial success" in the way the other Mike believes. Certainly not as things currently stand anyway. They can provide a service though to local communities not available elsewhere.

Local TV News: That's Lancashire (Blackpool & Preston) has been awarded its licence. It comes into force on 24th August 2015.

About time, will it be on ch8?

Yes!!

If it is anything like That's Manchester you may be in for a huge disappointment. Just endless boring interviews in front of a brick wall. So much for the story that people didn't watch local TV because it isn't on a low channel number. I've yet to meet another viewer.

Notts TV has the worst football programme ever made by a huge margin. It is simply awful beyond belief.

Please stop rubbishing the hard working efforts of people trying to make a diffrence .
I watch That's Manchester sometimes with my freinds in the US .
I think it is very good and provides a insight on local issues .
We need media that is not under undue influence of goverment and big business and local TV will do that because it is run by people who have the right motives.
See examples below
http://johnpilger.com/articles/war-b...-of-propaganda

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015...ist-corruption

The corruption of the media by the extreme right and left has cost millions of lives in war .
Goverment and corrupt business needs to be held to account by media such as the Guardian .
The Guardian failed in their bid to enter the TV media due in my opinion a conspiracy.
Printed media is on the decline so independent newspapers will not be able to hold big business and goverment to account .
Local TV is essential to our democracy and should be welcomed by us all.
So please do not keep sticking the boot in and give them a break

The poster to whom your comment was directed is entitled to state his opinion. Otherwise practice what you preach and kindly keep your own opinions to yourself. The whole point of a forum is to enable people to set out their own views for discussion. You may not agree with his views anymore than I agree with your obsession about government influence, corruption from the right, anti-Guardian conspiracy theories or the role of big business in the media, but we are all entitled to our views and to set them out here.

If only one view (ie yours) were allowed to be expressed as you seem to be wish then that would be exactly the sort of repressive approach you seem to spend most of your posts complaining about.

Totally agree with you .

If others think local TV is poor ,they are more than entitled to that opinion ,as you are entitled to disagree with me .
I am also entitled to my opinion ,that is what free speach is all about .
But what is wrong is the use of the media by very skilled and very highly paid PR people with a vested commercial interest to influence goverment to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else.
So I have my own opinion on this and it is also correct for others to question my opinion and put forward their opinion .

Sorry I forgot to apoligies to Anthony David .
If he thinks that local TV is poor he is entitled to that view and I respect him for his opinion.

I had no right ,with my comment that he should stop rubbishing local TV .
With hindsight I should have said ,that I don't think its poor, but he had every right to his opinion.


I afraid this was a case of not puttings ones brain in the correct gear.

That's Lancashire has just appeared in the Service Name table that I see from Winter Hill. I'm not on the Preston/Blackpool petal so can't see if the channel is actually up, but if it isn't it must be very close.

Yes channel is now broadcasting promotional slate on channel 8

I wonder if they've found a nice brick wall somewhere in Lancashire to film 'all' their programmes in front of...