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Old 28-01-2015, 13:51
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you cant say that... she was in the 2 saved first.. but you dont know the margin of the save...
it could have been

90% of votes KH
5% of votes Nadia
4% of votes cam li
1% of votes snnozefest peace & harmony
It could've been, yes.

My opinion is it wasnt

She was also in the top 2 with Calum and one of those were way out in front. I reckon this was Nadia
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Old 28-01-2015, 13:54
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I think a lot of us have been against Nadia for a hell of a long time for various reasons, but she's really lost it now after telling Calum to shut up.

Telling someone to repeatedly shut up is incredibly childish and it shows that she's now lost control.
Partly to do with Patsy being gone, partly because she's getting boos and Katie Hopkins is getting cheered.

On the other hand, Calum basically ran away from her.
He's another one so desperate to win that he's scared to death of getting involved in anything.

She's thrown her toys out of the pram too, by finally erupting at Katie Hopkins in a misguided attempt to make out that she was slagging off Keith.
The things that Nadia seems to be unaware of:

1. She is a TERRIBLE judge of the British public.

2. Katie Hopkins couldn't care less if someone thinks she was slagging them off, especially when she wasn't!
LOL, you really do seem to take this show far too seriously don't you.

The problem with your post is, No1.....that is your opinion of Nadia that she is a terrible judge of the public.
No2.....you do not have 24 access to the house and don't know whether Hopkins did or did not say these things and neither do I.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:12
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Oh dear...blinkered perception.

Nadia is a peacemaker .
no she is the person who never learnt the lesson from appeasement and thinks that she has the best solution and if she explains it then everyone will do as she says and have a pajama party playing with their my little ponies... she is the adult and they are all children who can play and play as long as its bed when she says and they do what she says

her very liberal left ideas though do not work outside the playground. her ideas are not rational, while KH makes a very rational argument...

the 4 leaders in the house were shown by the feedback task.

KH - leads by clear direct rational argument, you either join her or you dont
MV - leads by hard & fast demanding blitzkrieg "recruitment", it takes effort to say no to her
Nadia leads by acting the smothering caring nanny, she pretends to compromise but really if you are not suckling her breast you are cut off. She hides when she slags others off by only planting seeds of "look what they are doing" to safe ears.
Perez is the "join the clown party, no solutions but we can have pizza until the lights die"
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:15
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no she is the person who never learnt the lesson from appeasement and thinks that she has the best solution and if she explains it then everyone will do as she says and have a pajama party playing with their my little ponies... she is the adult and they are all chrildren who can play and play as long as its bed when she says and they do what she says

her very liberal left ideas though do not work outside the playground. her ideas are not rational, while KH makes a very rational argument...

the 4 leaders in the house were shown by the feedback task.

KH - leads by clear direct rational argument, you either join her or you dont
MV - leads by hard & fast demanding blitzkrieg "recruitment", it takes effort to say no to her
Nadia leads by acting the smothering caring nanny, she pretends to compromise but really if you are not suckling her breast you are cut off. She hides when she slags others off by only planting seeds of "look what they are doing" to safe ears.
Perez is the "join the clown party, no solutions but we can have pizza until the lights die"
I think I may be watching a different show.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:16
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I think I may be watching a different show.
you can then look at 3 people types to form the final matrix

KH is solutions first, friends second
Nadia is make friends until they can't not accept your solution
Patsy is no solutions, lets just be friends.

you can now reliably put KH & Nadia into the matrix..
but do not forget you are blinkered by your own political position and internalised cultural perception framework on if you ignore the signals they give off or not. i.e.. yes you are very likely comprehending a very different show
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:34
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no she is the person who never learnt the lesson from appeasement and thinks that she has the best solution and if she explains it then everyone will do as she says and have a pajama party playing with their my little ponies... she is the adult and they are all children who can play and play as long as its bed when she says and they do what she says

her very liberal left ideas though do not work outside the playground. her ideas are not rational, while KH makes a very rational argument...

the 4 leaders in the house were shown by the feedback task.

KH - leads by clear direct rational argument, you either join her or you dont
MV - leads by hard & fast demanding blitzkrieg "recruitment", it takes effort to say no to her
Nadia leads by acting the smothering caring nanny, she pretends to compromise but really if you are not suckling her breast you are cut off. She hides when she slags others off by only planting seeds of "look what they are doing" to safe ears.
Perez is the "join the clown party, no solutions but we can have pizza until the lights die"
Or
One could just say ...
I like Nadia.
I don't like Hopkins.
I prefer things in simple terms.
No psychoanalysing here.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:36
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you can then look at 3 people types to form the final matrix

KH is solutions first, friends second
Nadia is make friends until they can't not accept your solution
Patsy is no solutions, lets just be friends.

you can now reliably put KH & Nadia into the matrix..
but do not forget you are blinkered by your own political position and internalised cultural perception framework on if you ignore the signals they give off or not. i.e.. yes you are very likely comprehending a very different show
Hopkins is CRITICISE first...solutions? She excels at dissing! If she were focused on solutions then she would be a nice person, someone who smooths troubled waters...that is not what she is about at all!
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:37
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Do you know much about Nadia it would, seemingly, not I won't bother to enlighten you though.

You are aware this is a discussion forum aren't you?
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:38
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LOL, you really do seem to take this show far too seriously don't you.

The problem with your post is, No1.....that is your opinion of Nadia that she is a terrible judge of the public.
No2.....you do not have 24 access to the house and don't know whether Hopkins did or did not say these things and neither do I.

Nice one!
Accusing someone of taking things too seriously. That's so 2006.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:43
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You are aware this is a discussion forum aren't you?
And yet we purport to know about who we diss, huh?
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:45
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And yet we purport to know about who we diss, huh?

No we just judge people as we see them, nobody is saying they 'know' anyone.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:48
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Hopkins is CRITICISE first...solutions? She excels at dissing! If she were focused on solutions then she would be a nice person, someone who smooths troubled waters...that is not what she is about at all!
which then leads to, how do you like to be let down gently or not...

either smiley face, you are all great, by the way you should do it better
or idiot, thats wrong, you need to do it better.
the result is the same, and one is more honest than the other

if you need a nice smile, be careful when buying second hand cars...
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:53
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which then leads to, how do you like to be let down gently or not...

either smiley face, you are all great, by the way you should do it better
or idiot, thats wrong, you need to do it better.
the result is the same, and one is more honest than the other

if you need a nice smile, be careful when buying second hand cars...
Yeah she excels at the brash method which doesn't make her comments accurate though! This is where it all falls down and why she is so unpopular with great swathes of the UK population. Go figure

Thankfully, most people have more consideration and tact when dealing with those they might need to address.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:55
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which then leads to, how do you like to be let down gently or not...

either smiley face, you are all great, by the way you should do it better
or idiot, thats wrong, you need to do it better.
the result is the same, and one is more honest than the other

if you need a nice smile, be careful when buying second hand cars...
No one is not more honest it's just ruder. Think many people these days mistake rude for honest.
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Old 28-01-2015, 14:58
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you can then look at 3 people types to form the final matrix

KH is solutions first, friends second
Nadia is make friends until they can't not accept your solution
Patsy is no solutions, lets just be friends.

you can now reliably put KH & Nadia into the matrix..
but do not forget you are blinkered by your own political position and internalised cultural perception framework on if you ignore the signals they give off or not. i.e.. yes you are very likely comprehending a very different show
Katie has said she doesn't have friends so no it's more like KH is criticise and blame first and foremost
Nadia is lets be civil even if I don't like you which is how society works best
Patsy is fragile and doesn't like conflict wants peace and love which is lovely if you are able to live in an area when you are never challenged.
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Old 28-01-2015, 15:25
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No one is not more honest it's just ruder. Think many people these days mistake rude for honest.
Nadia is not honest, she is just a game playing apologist who is irrational with her logic application... but many people are only tuned to see the bunny rabbit and scream "ahhh" at the screen
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Old 28-01-2015, 15:27
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Nadia is lets be civil even if I don't like you which is how society works best
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Hence my "never learnt from appeasement" comment.
In the real world, basic academic game theory shows what she preaches will never work... which is why she doesnt practice what she tells others, but is subtle in her ruthless selfish positioning
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Old 28-01-2015, 15:29
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Katie has said she doesn't have friends so no it's more like KH is criticise and blame first and foremost
Nadia is lets be civil even if I don't like you which is how society works best
Patsy is fragile and doesn't like conflict wants peace and love which is lovely if you are able to live in an area when you are never challenged.

Sums them up pretty well.

I'd never call any of them leader material. Katie is 'my way or the high way', Nadia is too mumsy and Patsy is 'anything for a quiet life'.
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