You are not alone, Kav needed to be told IMO and Nadia told him.

Exactly, he did.- there was a photograph of him with a black eye to prove it !!
Was this before or after he stalked Lady Gaga and rented a room in her Apartment Block and she went berserk at him ?

Personally I think it's a darn sight better than the sneering/mocking tone Katie takes on and carries it on and on and on.

it was hardly threatening.

'Big Mama Nadia' must be horrific to live with.

I'm not sure, it was probably around the time he uploaded a picture of what appeared to be an underage girl with no knickers on.

Told him what ? What did she tell him ? She didn't listen to the conversation going on around her, she bulldozed in to rescue 37 year old Perez, who was doing quite well by himself, and refused to accept that she'd got it wrong, Perez had NOT admitted to being at the very least partially responsible for Alexander leaving, and instead Nadia threw her weight around and was bullish to Kav , pointing her finger at him like she had some kind of authority to do so -she didn't she was being a bossy c*w.

Is this the first time we've seen Nadia argue while drunk?
All the other times she has been reasonable and sober.

I actually was glad she laid into Kav who is the worst kind of drunk, very aggressive and the way he treated Keith was unessesary. Like Katie he went for the quiet one who wouldn't answer back. He bit off more than he could chew this time.

In his defence, he didn't know she lived there as they'd not been friends for a while. When he found out (via her screaming tweet) he withdrew his offer.

Katie to Perez !!
Well....................who'd be able to hold back against the loon let's face it, the noise level living with that must drive them round the bend. You make it sound like it's just Katie who has had a problem with Perez, it's ALL of them, bar Nadia of course, who's just treating him like an unruly teen, and accepts whatever he says or does and excuses him. Is she hoping to go to America or something ? He called her better than Oprah..............ah ahahhahahha laughed my ar*e off at that ridiculous comment, and that showed to me that Perez is playing her, - it was the most wildest scripted comparison i've ever heard ! They are both women, that's about as far as any similarity goes ! Perhaps Perez has put it into her head he can get her a talkshow on some obscure TV Channel in the States.

Just google it.
It was when Miley Cyrus was underage.
After people complained (rightfully) he shat himself and said it was a photoshopped image and he wasn't really uploading child porn.

Either way, it shows what a scumbag he is.

I've been lurking on this thread for a while, and we've had very differing opinions on previous series'! Haha! Of course, they were equally as brilliant and insightful, but I just dont like to admit it because I didn't like the particular HM! haha

Was, darling, was.

I think if we held everyone in that house accountable for past behaviour we'd only like Cheggers.

I didn't see it quite like that Sandy. I felt Katie H once again had a go at Perez. This women is relentless - she tells everyone not to give him time, not to engage in conversation with him but constantly engages with him, follows him round the room, talks about him in her group (Michelle Cami) even talks about him when he is not in the house. Katie H is uncomfortably obsessed in one way for one reason or another with Perez. She went on and on and on and on last night. Kav in my opinion was asking a legitimate question about Alex - I think Kav only saw and heard so much, I think cos Nadia spent a lot of time with Perez I feel she saw and heard other things only hinted at in the show highlights. I feel she was trying to tell Kav quite calmly to leave it alone as it would not be in Alex.s interest for her to repeat what she saw or heard. However I feel Kav can get quite an aggressive posture and I think you have to stand quite firm or the aggression seems to increase. Katie H wanted Perez attention - she always has - she definitely makes this show the Perez show more than he does. I like Nadia very much I think she sees quite clearly what is happening in that house.

Kav deserved it. He's horrible. I cannot take anything he says seriously, he's got no spine. He's a disgusting drunk and he has zero talent, personality or endearing features.

That's not what the reports said , but never mind, never know what to believe with these things.

Perez sent Lady Gaga a text of her in a wheelchair with the words KARMA written across it and Madonna pointing a gun at her
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http://www.ask.com/youtube?q=Perez+H...&v=Q_duJ0--kWs

Here he discusses the fall out of their relationship............(if you can be bothered to listen to him) ....
http://www.ask.com/youtube?q=Perez+H...&v=Q_duJ0--kWs

Having watched Perez for the last 20 odd days, do you honestly think he would not have repeated what he heard, to somebody - even if it weren't Nadia? He is going to hold what he heard over everybody, in my opinion, or just the fact that he watched - he doesn't have to even say what he heard, just that 'he knows' and let them all stew about what they may or may not have said.

He loves having additional information, even if he's interpreted it in a different way from how it was said, left context out - he just loves the one-upmanship of it all and will love the 'power' it gives him.

I always remember him talking to somebody - can't remember who - and them telling him something and him asking if he can go and repeat that to the person they had said it about, he can't stand not stirring the pot, he loves to hear something and take it off and spread it around. He can't keep silent.

ETA: That's not to say that anybody wouldn't feel a certain sense of power having additional information that nobody else has, cause most HMs would

It reminds me of Elliot in ET, when only he knew about ET, saying to his brother 'I have absolute power' making him swear to the secret

Me too. He kept his cool even when she was shouting him down. Nadia bulldozes people, she rarely has a discussion, she just goes on and on and on, never listening and with no idea half the time what she's on about. She thoroughly showed herself up last night. I've never liked Loose Women, just a bunch if sour haridans that like to humiliate and invalidate men. And Nadia is one of the worst, and the most hypocritical. She doesn't like her weight, she's dieted to extremes in the past, but judging by the stodge Callum was so fed up with, it's hardly surprising. She's dominated that kitchen and controlled what they eat. It's very nasty, and a real power trip. I've seen people taking the pee out of how Katie H looks - she can't help that. But Nadia has a sneering scowl on her face that's ugly. She showed herself up when she demanded that Perez told her what he'd seen "I want to know everything" even though he was reluctant-ish. Nadia's a nasty, controlling, power-crazy haridan whose friendship with Perez is co-dependent and unhealthy.

I agree that Katie is like a dog with a bone with Perez - about what he did to Alexander which I think was the final straw for her, but she and others saw what he did to Alex, so even though she's got lockjaw on the matter., I don't blame her for finally saying to Perez that she'd let go IF he admitted what he did to Alexander, and you heard Perez say..... that he could have handled that differently, ..(WTTE)...but while he was saying that unfortunately Nadia bulldozed in.

I don't think there was anything Nadia saw between Alexander and Perez that the others didn't -- the House is too small and the others were always around Alexander, because Perez was pushing his buttons

and the clips we were shown on the HL show showed what Perez did and how Alex responded,- and we also saw Perez say to camera that he would cough in the corner of the bedroom,and this was 6.,30am the morning of a long day when Alex was up for eviction, and despite getting angry at Perez for coughing right next to his bed , he carried on and on and on, riling Alexander. So he was already angry at Perez before that day even begun.

And we heard last night on HL that when Kav showed Nadia what Perez did, the constant sticking his tongue through his fingers (and through the rabbits ears when Perez deliberately followed Alex and sat right OPPOSITE him on the sofas , ..when Alex had gone there to get away from Perez so that he wouldn't blow) ....... Nadia said she HAD NOT seen Perez do that

- so Nadia didn't know the whole story at all did she. Even Michelle, not just Katie blew up at Perez, and Calum and Kav too after Alexander left, so all the HMs knew Perez had been out of order , except Nadia it seems !

When she sees the VTs back when she's out the House she'll see what Perez did to him and she won't be so quick to defend him.

Bang on.

Kav : " Come on Nadia have some moral high ground


Lmao at this idiot. Yeah ok Kavana you want to practice what you preach.

Kav was right - The moral high ground that Nadia was not taking was...... ,admitting that Perez more than goaded Alexander and on principle she wasn't being honest about what led to Alexander walking out.

We all know why he walked out, missed his wife, and couldnt handle the house.As for Perez goading him i think he was more offended when Ken said the Negroe word to him

Told him that is what it feels like to be berated just like he did to Keith. Nasty drunk who needs showing that behaviour is not acceptable.

but he didn't walk out over that did he.
I have a feeling that Alex got overly aggressive to Perez, which led to him going on about fearing for his safety -and Alex had to leave, and I think that's what maybe Nadia won't say , but Perez was pushing him to get physical , so I think something DID happen -but the HMs won't say because they've probably been told not to.