I think the shows we've seen will tell you exactly why he needed standing up to.

BiB - You say that, but isn't your favourite Nadia? The person who pushes his attention seeking ways more than anyone else in that house and makes out like it's brilliant and constantly gives him the attention he craves when, as you said it yourself, any adult knows to ignore it. You can't use something against Hopkins and then support someone for doing the same thing.

I totally disagree with this, a lot of people knew Perez made his living writing horrible things about celebrities online and correctly predicted he would make the show all about himself, which is exactly what he's done.
Personally I never thought KH would be the villain at all, I knew she would be involved in heated arguments but certainly didn't have her down as the villain before she went in, and for the record I don't class her as the villain now.
For me, the biggest shock, and disappointment has been Nadia, I was expecting good things from her, but her preconceived ideas about Katie H and 'friendship' with Perez (one way may I add) has let her down IMO.

Nadia has done herself no favours whatsoever in the house, shes come across as a sycophantic tit.

I don't think KH had a preconceived idea about Perez, as Nadia did about KH, but in the short time that it took her to get the measure of him, her reasoning was pretty much the same as Nadia's. Of course both KH and Nadia strongly dislkie Perez and KH respectively, but both of them believe that they will have the public on their side to help further them through the game.

Nadia didn't count on there being a more imposing hate-figure in the house than KH though - it has rather scuppered her game plan.

Nadia does placate him yes - she likes him she's not bothered about his childish antics.

Katie on the other hand is bothered by his childish antics - so much so that she feels she needs to stand up to him - it's not her house - who is she to tell people how to behave.

I'm not being contradictory at all - I'm not saying his behaviour shouldn't be encouraged - I'm saying that if Hopkins finds in unacceptable she's gone the completely wrong way about handling it.

Well, yeah, that's what I mean. Katie went against someone who could have been loved or hated, she didn't no. So it points to her standing up to him because she didn't like him, not because she thought would have the public on side.

Whereas Nadia went into interviews before the show saying how she was going to take Hopkins on, and from minute 1 didn't let that grudge go. She went against her knowing the public would hate her (at least on day 1) and thought by going against her that she would be popular, but by day 3 Katie had come across really well and had done nothing to annoy the public.

Two completely different situation, I think.

I don't even think that Nadia's plan didn't work because there is a bigger hate figure, I think it's because a lot of people actually LIKE Katie H and didn't expect to. Whether Perez was there or not, I think Katie H would be just as liked as she is now.

Why?......FFS

I'm surprised that you think neither of them actively wants to win the game.

I think they are both hugely competitive - KH it goes without saying, and Nadia said at the beginning that she knows the game and has a plan - so trying to get the public on-side is a given. They are both using similar tactics too.

I understand, like Nadia, you probably think not saying anything to someone's face and bitching about them in the toilets and so on is probably the way to go about dealing with things, but I have to disagree with that completely.

For the sake of the game show, Katie H has gone about it in the best possible way. She took the risk of going against a main housemate, not knowing whether or not she would be hated or loved for it, and she's gained huge popularity while the bitchy one - Nadia - has become hated for it.

As you said, adults should know better, which is why I think Katie H has acted in the more adult way of making her problems clear, whilst Nadia has taken the very childish approach of encouraging idiotic, childish, offensive behaviour and become a bitch. If she really was this straight talking, smart woman that she makes herself out to be, then she wouldn't be so bitchy and would be more like Katie H.

1 word - Alex


Katie H for the win!!!

So no praise for a woman who recognises that she is not the brightest button in the box and has taken the opportunity to help herself whilst helping her child to learn things, just name calling and derision. That is sad.

To see Katie Hopkins make fun of her showed just what Katie Hopkins is.

Really is that why she was first with the votes, as Emma said the 2 people with the most votes (note she didnt say in no particular order) is Nadia then Hopkins.In some peoples views she is coming across good.

If she decided to take that action when she had her FIRST child then yes, I would respect her.


But after hearing about her not knowing shapes or her alphabets and seeing her telling her - at the time - 16 year old daughter to leave school and go into to porn, get a boob job and marry a rich man, then no, I certainly wont be supporting that vile woman.

I'll stick to the well deserved name calling and derision.

She said...

"I can now reveal the two housemates with the most votes are....Nadia and Katie" at no point did she say Nadia was 1st.

Also, just because someone survives a vote - against 2 people who had NO support - doesn't mean people think she is coming across "good" at all.

^^^ This ^^^

The fact that anybody would think that KH's behavior is worthy of praise is beyond me. She is a vile bully and perhaps her 'fans' would feel vastly different if her viciousness were directed at them or theirs.

Again...my thoughts exactly. I'm sorry, but you have to work very hard to go through a very privileged educational system and come out with such an astoundingly low amount of knowledge. I work in education and I find it hard to believe she managed to get through it without knowing her alphabet at the very least.

As far as Katie H is concerned, she was quite up front with Alicia and at the end there seemed to have been a genuine affection between them both so it couldn't have been too severe or traumatic for Alicia.

Don't worry OP. The Cheers and the booing from the eviction crowd do not represent the GBP.

Nadia has been up for eviction twice, and saved twice and from the GBP. If she really was hated ( as some seem to think ) she would've been gone.

Oh the irony! HERE we go again. New cliche alert.

Nope. Wrong.

We cannot measure if she is "hated" or not based on how she has survived an eviction - as it's a vote to save and Perez has also survived.

She is clearly disliked on social media platforms....very disliked. She just has the Loose Women brigade behind her like they usually do.

Agree.

Yes, Katie H was upfront with Alicia - one of the only ones - and I think Alicia did appreciate that and by the end they seemed to quite like each other and Katie H was sad that Alicia was evicted.

Well in the first eviction she was in the top 2 and in the 2nd eviction she was top 2. I personally believe it is Nadia who is topping the vote.

Social Media isn't the judge, that's not where you place your phone votes!! That's only ticking popularity boxes and slating someone, because we can. Most probably won't even lift the phone to vote.

This was evident in the last BB where Ash ( acc to social media ) was a complete goner. All forums / Facebook / twitter etc had him evicted and in the taxi home. Look what happened there! What happened to the social media 'results' on that one?

Again, Denise and Coleen didn't have much support either on social media, but one was a winner, and one a runner up.

Perhaps it is the 'Loose Women Brigade who are behind her. I couldn't tell you as I'm not one, haven't ever watched an episode, but I'm sure Nadia has more support than some seem to think.

Never did I once mention bullying in my post. And regardless of whether you want to call the deliberate ostracising of another housemate (to the point of hounding anyone that dares speak to them) 'bullying' or not..... it still shows a horribly nasty side to her character anyway.

I said she threw unecessarily rude insults to Alicia, FOR NO GOOD REASON other than to demean and embaras her or for 'entertainment' - either way it was nasty and I find it incredible that people think she should be patted on the back for it!

And I don't agree that Alicia was disliked by everyone. She was a bit of a dolly daydream and as a result some might have got impatient with her or voiced a few things that annoyed them about her (I'm sure there are characteristics of all the housemates that they found annoying at times) but on the contrary, Nadia and Keith were extremely fond of her, as evidenced by their reactions when she left.

So what if she might be a bit lacking in the intelligence department? How people reacted to that says more about them than her. If we were talking about a particular behaviour of Alicias that was wrong, or a dispute, of course it is better to speak directly to the person (although it can be done with tact) and 'have it out' so that the problem could be sorted. But this has nothing to do with it. There was no 'problem'. Katie identified a weakness/shortcoming in Alicia and decided to mock and humiliate Alicia publicly for it. There was no need to talk about Alicias lack of intelligence in a mocking way, no benefit to come from it other than to make Alicia feel bad. How some people are going on as if she was speaking out on something that had to be said is absolutely ridiculous. It served no purpose than to be destructive and unkind. Nadia and Keith reactions to her by contrast were constructive and kind. As Nadia said in the Diary Room, Alicia made her want to give her a big cuddle. And in practical terms thats what she did, she looked out for her and supported her. Alicia mentioned how great Nadia and Keith were - not just by being kind and supportive in the house, but by helping her a lot with her mindset and failings she had in approaching things out of the house.

As for Alicia looking for arguements with Katie....it was Katie who initiated it all when she chose to pick on what she saw as Alicias weaknesses as thats what she does. Alicia didn't cry or shout back but calmly pointed out to her how unecessarily rude she was being. It was only after the mocking insults did Alicia get the bit between her teeth, and I'm not surprised, who would not get annoyed at people mocking you like that?

Great post humpy dumpty

Yet if you were to ask Alicia who she prefers she would say Nadia and Perez. She realised that she was more than able to stand her ground with Katie - it's easier than you would think - and it allowed her to enjoy Katie better than you would think.

As for Katie being sad she was evicted, of course she was. Katie has to have her foil, Alicia was one, Perez was another and Katie was looking forward to Nadia being one.
She would be nothing more than a bully with a house full of Keiths and Katie Ps.

Having said all that, I feel Katie H really does enjoy having a more opinionated person around her and, oh boy, didn't she enjoy getting chased around by Perez.

I believe she was sad she left too, but not so sure her disappointment wasn't more that it wasn't Nadia who'd been evicted ! but hopefully Katie H was being honest , she seemed to be. And yes..., her and Alicia did by the end seem to call a truce on their ping pong insults and Alicia took it all very graciously, and she wasn't a pushover at all was she. But I think Alicia will be sitting next to Nadia when she's in a studio after the show ends, and not Katie H.