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It speaks volume me to seeing KH getting cheers over Nadia. Makes me sick
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mz fit
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by Menk:
“As you know, the emphasis is largely placed on phonics in the early years - reciting the alphabet is not important when learning to read.

While it may be surprising that she struggles with the alphabet, it is not a huge handicap in the great scheme of learning.”

I agree that the alphabet is not important when learning to read, but reciting the alphabet is something done in classrooms still as well as in books and educational telly shows. I stand by my view that it would be very hard work to avoid learning the alphabet, especially in what Alicia said herself was a very prestigious private school.
BellaRosa
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by IsThisHappiness:
“People like to play this bullying card every year when there is rarely any bullying going on.

Katie has been one of the ONLY ones who stood up to Perez. Whilst others went quiet and got too nervous to say anything because they didn't want to come across badly (Keith, Calum, Patsy, Kav) she stood up and said something. Others went in there knowing what she was like and decided to go against her because they thought the public would support that (Nadia). She's the only one in there that doesn't care if she is hated. She's the only one without an ego. We've heard Nadia say "Im not used to be unliked. I'm used to being the popular, nice woman by the public". We've heard Michelle say she has her own spot in the final. Katie has said "I don't care if you don't like me, if I go...i go.".

She hasn't bullied anyone. Alicia was an idiot who said the most stupid things and didn't know her alphabet and only learned it to raise her SECOND child (such a great person she didn't even learn it when she had baby number 1). Alicia annoyed most the HM's but Katie was the only one to say anything to her face whilst Keith, Katie P, Calum, Nadia, Perez, Patsy, Alexander and Kav all spoke about her behind her back. Alicia looked for arguments with Katie and Katie never went for it, which was brilliant as Alicia was left there looking foolish.

You're absolutely right it speaks volumes. It shows that the public have seen right through that idiot, Nadia, and have realised exactly what her intentions were from the start - going against Hopkins for popularity. And it failed....BRILLIANTLY.”

Agree 100%.

I admire how Katie H has not risen to Perez and thumped him which I think that is what he wants her to do.

Katie H to win for me.
Honestweegie
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by IsThisHappiness:
“So Katie H's behaviour is awful compared to what?

I know that I would much rather - and for my friends and family to do too - to go up to people, talk things through, speak to them face to face about issues and put that issue to bed once we've spoken about it - like Katie does. I certainly wouldn't want people around me to go to another room and whisper things about me, spread poison throughout groups of people about me and to hold a grudge against me without ever making an effort to talk to me about it - like Nadia does.

I think, although she may say things in a not so "PC/NICE" way, she deals with situations a LOT better than Nadia. Everyone in that house knows where they stand with Katie, and she, herself, has been nothing but pleasant about Nadia, but Nadia came into the house holding a grudge, bitched about her constantly to different people, takes people away to the toilet for the sole purpose of bitching.

So, I reiterate, that I would MUCH rather be - and want my friends and family to be - the way Katie H is with people.”

Agreed, Nadia and Perez are childishly name calling and bitching and licking faces. Katie is mature enough to actually tell the truth to peoples faces. Im quite disgusted at his behaviour, cant believe Nadia didn't "call the police" when he was chasing Katie and licking her face, imagine one of the other men in the house had done that !!
S_J1
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by sandy50:
“Katie defending herself over Perez's goading and taunting to deliberately annoy her !!!! I would like to remind you that Perez even admitted that's what he was doing- he's playing a game !! He's not the victim here , that's ludicrous , a true bully has to have a victim and there isn't one is there !

And it's NOT bullying because the person you imagine is at the receiving end of Katie H is laughing and not affected by anything she's doing. Infact ....Perez is better at it than her ----- he's even resorted to taunting and aggravating her further by licking her face ...........he keeps stooper lower and lower to get as much airtime as he can.

BB even seemed to be pushing Katie,,when in the Diary Room, to make some form of official complaint about Perez ---- but Katie's not a crybaby and poo pooed what Perez did because she views his behaviour as being comparison to that of a child !! Lucky for Perez that she does isn't it.

Nadia has just shown her real side ..........by showing us she has a nasty irrational side and a very short temper and can kick off if someone dare say her food is heavy !! crikey,,...........she needs to take a chill pill !! And she talks about HMs with Patsy, and Perez, and then has a go at anyone else who's done the same !! She can't admit her own faults but is prepared to go all guns blazing to bring down anyone who doesn't see things the way she does. Must be horrible living with both her, moany ol bag.”

^^ agree ^^
humpty dumpty
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by mz fit:
“I agree that the alphabet is not important when learning to read, but reciting the alphabet is something done in classrooms still as well as in books and educational telly shows. I stand by my view that it would be very hard work to avoid learning the alphabet, especially in what Alicia said herself was a very prestigious private school.”

And that view is a fair enough one to have.

The question is, would you decide that since this lack of knowledge of the alphabet is quite a failing on Alicias part, it is necessary to have to publicly mock her about it, in front of everyone else? What purpose would that serve? What would you have achieved from it (apart from demeaning and mocking another person publicly) ?

So many people talk about 'someone had to say it to her face' and 'thank God not everyone is so PC' which is really nothing to do with the issue. Alicias knowledge/lack of knowledge of the alphabet is not the issue. If Katie felt so strongly about it, she could have discussed it with tact with Alicia. I would suggest that most people don't give a flying fig about Alicias grasp of the alphabet, but what many do disagree with is the motives behind wanting to embarass and mock Alicia with it publicly when there was no reason to do so? Its simply nasty and unecessary.

And to hide it under the banner or 'anti-PC' or 'telling it like it is' is just ridiculous! What possible reason is there to mock her like that about it?

Theres plenty times when being blunt and direct is necessary, to solve a problem, criticise a behaviour which is wrong when the person won't listen to more tactful approaches and avoids talking about it etc... but this was not the case and in no way is related to such an issue. I don't have to be 'offended' by her comments (I never am) to see that she is UNECESSARILY rude. There was no problem, no issue to be resolved, no speech that had to be made....it was nothing more than Katie Hopkins wanting to highlight a weakness in Alicia to make her look small.
theid
30-01-2015
[quote=Menk;76704748]I'm surprised that you think neither of them actively wants to win the game.

I think they are both hugely competitive - KH it goes without saying, and Nadia said at the beginning that she knows the game and has a plan - so trying to get the public on-side is a given. They are both using similar tactics too.[/QUOTE

I didnīt say they werenīt competitive, I said they werenīt trying to curry favour. Their personalities rule out keeping silent, but for quite different reasons. KH because she
is a narcissist who believes we all need to hear what she has to say and Nadia because she cannot tolerate bigotry and ignorance.
LykkieLi
30-01-2015
I can't believe how immature she is, Hopkins that is. When she was in Apprentice she seemed a bit of a loner so maybe she just hasn't been socialised normally.
droogiefret
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by iluvdannii:
“I really feel ashamed/embarrassed at the British public for loving Katie h over someone like Nadia.

I don't care how annoying Perez is Katie has shown herself to be a bully. The way she behaves is bullying behaviour and it baffles me how she gets cheers and someone like Nadia who is a real women with moral views who is being fair and friendly to everyone is getting boos.

Katie is nasty and horrible women. The way she talks about everyone behind there backs with Michelle just proves that to me. She thinks she's above everyone else.

Not going to lie she has been entertaining but I will be really disappointed if she wins.

If she wins to me that's saying that's its okay to behave the way she has on the outside world.”

Hopefully she won't win. As another poster said, and I think this is most likely, the media seed the crowds and lead the cheers and boos. So we're not hearing a fair representation of views.
emmaxxs
30-01-2015
The massive cheers for callum says it all, I mean why
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