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Kav really hates Keith
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SnowStorm86
29-01-2015
Kav is loving Katie and Calum slagging him off.
CBFreak
29-01-2015
Maybe Kav didn't like Cheggers on Tiswas and has developed a childhood phobia of him?
chachachavvy
29-01-2015
The presence of Keith reflects Kav's drink problem back on him and Kav can't bear that. Living with a recovering alcoholic who knows all the tricks and all the problems really touches a nerve with Kav.
paralax
29-01-2015
Hate is a strong word.
VichyTen
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by chachachavvy:
“The presence of Keith reflects Kav's drink problem back on him and Kav can't bear that. Living with a recovering alcoholic who knows all the tricks and all the problems really touches a nerve with Kav.”

Agreed.
pugamo
29-01-2015
Kav is a spiteful little bitch.
cavalli
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by chachachavvy:
“The presence of Keith reflects Kav's drink problem back on him and Kav can't bear that. Living with a recovering alcoholic who knows all the tricks and all the problems really touches a nerve with Kav.”

Yep, I'm convinced that's the root of it, Kav feels exposed and judged by Keith.
Scarlet O'Hara
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by CBFreak:
“Maybe Kav didn't like Cheggers on Tiswas and has developed a childhood phobia of him?”

Cheggars was on Swap Shop. Tiswas was too edgy for Keith.
THE ROTCOD
29-01-2015
me too
ForGodsSake
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by chachachavvy:
“The presence of Keith reflects Kav's drink problem back on him and Kav can't bear that. Living with a recovering alcoholic who knows all the tricks and all the problems really touches a nerve with Kav.”

I think that may have something to do with it.

Kav is weak and seeing Cheggers overcome his addiction reminds of that.
benbeez1
29-01-2015
& we don't like you Kav
Moontaker
29-01-2015
Cheggars is a legend, in a couple of years time people will be asking 'Kav who?'.
Tucks21
29-01-2015
Didn't know much about Kav before he went in the house and quite frankly I would rather not have found out about him. I really wish he would be up. 😦
glitterlady08
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by Moontaker:
“Cheggars is a legend, in a couple of years time people will be asking 'Kav who?'.”


YOU mean now? Kav who?
ForGodsSake
29-01-2015
I worked in a record shop and didnt know who Kavana was...and I'm from Manchester !!
Shantan
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by Moontaker:
“Cheggars is a legend, in a couple of years time people will be asking 'Kav who?'.”

More like a couple of weeks.
anne_666
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Kav is loving Katie and Calum slagging him off.”

Keith has addressed and continues to fight his alcoholism. Kav hasn't and resents him for that. He said as much after his drunken abuse of Keith.
benbeez1
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by Shantan:
“More like a couple of weeks.”

more like a couple of days
Moontaker
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by glitterlady08:
“YOU mean now? Kav who?”


Lol...after I posted I realised I don't know who he is, I have no idea what he does in the outside world....so yes NOW.
An Thropologist
29-01-2015
Originally Posted by chachachavvy:
“The presence of Keith reflects Kav's drink problem back on him and Kav can't bear that. Living with a recovering alcoholic who knows all the tricks and all the problems really touches a nerve with Kav.”

I do agree Chacha. I have been fascinated by the dynamic between Keith and Kav for a while now (alas we see little of it). I think it is the most interesting in the house or it was until sexual frisson appeared between Katie and Perez.

I actually think it is even more complex and the tension is not as simple as Kav having a problem with Keith. I think Keith is also uncomfortable with Kav. I think the reasons differ and Keith has better coping strategies but I do think the tension is mutual.

I so agree with the mirror analogy.. Each provides the other with a projected image of themselves at a different times in their lives. I think Keith is consciously aware of seeing his former self in Kav. I am not sure if Kav sees his present or future in Keith but I think at a subconscious level Keith’s existence in the house is triggering something that makes Kav uncomfortable with himself.

I am not sure if Kav has a drink problem but from his performances on Big Reunion, BB and comments made by others he does seem to be a problem drinker. Keith apparently had a serious drink problem which he has dealt with and has been sober for a considerable time.

I wonder if in Kav Keith sees the person he used to be back when he drank. That must be a bit uncomfortable and maybe it provokes an instinct to help. But of course Kav has to accept there is a problem before he is receptive to any help. This must be frustrating for Keith who can only look on and maybe drop hints. Besides Keith can hardly out him on national TV and in front of the other housemates but he can’t quite resist the temptation to try and encourage Kav to drink less.

Kav meanwhile seems to be reading Keith’s little nudges as passive aggressive. (one of the most ironic exchanges I ever saw on BB). He seems to think Keith is diminishing him with little jibes. I think at some level Kav knows that he is a problem drinker and that Keith is aware of it too. So when he says he “dislikes people who make him feel less than he is” in reference to Keith he is actually projecting the demon within onto Keith. Maybe he is overtly denying what his inner voice already knows that he does feel less than he is or at least less then he would like to be. Keith is the mirror in which his anxieties are reflected. So he goes on the offensive to stop seeing the unwanted reflection.
Alrightmate
29-01-2015
You can tell he has a big problem with him as you can often see him giving Keith dirty sideways looks from time to time.
greenyone
29-01-2015
He's jealous of Keith and how far he's come
lady*tara
30-01-2015
kav is a weasle
Fanntastik
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by pugamo:
“Kav is a spiteful little bitch.”

well said
Iggy's Boy
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by chachachavvy:
“The presence of Keith reflects Kav's drink problem back on him and Kav can't bear that. Living with a recovering alcoholic who knows all the tricks and all the problems really touches a nerve with Kav.”

Yes. Precisely this. Keith makes Kav feel bad about himself and Kav can't forgive him for that.
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