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Hopkins' latest Sun column
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Menk
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by hopeless case:
“Given the acknowledged perception of the British public to people who say they want to win or will win, I'd say it is slagging her off, yes. I haven't seen Michell say this and if she has I doubt she has been repeating it on a regular basis.

The comparison to a septic tank is likewise unfortunate.”

Think it's rhyming slang. Carefully chosen.
hopeless case
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Thank you.
So she didn't say it.”

No, she didn't say "Michelle is the one friend I wish to keep outside the house". She also didn't say "I'm not bothered about any of them".

I was reading the signals. I might be wrong. What did you think she meant during that conversation?
Pete_Lashmar
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by hopeless case:
“Given the acknowledged perception of the British public to people who say they want to win or will win, I'd say it is slagging her off, yes. I haven't seen Michell say this and if she has I doubt she has been repeating it on a regular basis.

The comparison to a septic tank is likewise unfortunate.”

I'm sorry but anyone who thinks "Michelle is absolutely certain she will win and has no qualms about sharing that information" is a put down s laughable.
Pete_Lashmar
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Mmmmmm I hate to say it but do you have proof of her saying that?”

It's in her Sun column
DiamondDoll
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by hopeless case:
“No, she didn't say "Michelle is the one friend I wish to keep outside the house". She also didn't say "I'm not bothered about any of them".

I was reading the signals. I might be wrong. What did you think she meant during that conversation?”

I thought she was in full-on trolling mood and trying hard to get everyone wound up.
pope_tart
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Nothing of any surprise, or quality. Stick to the trashy tabloids Katie, not that she'll ever be offered anything better.”

True, it tickles me to think about how low she has sunk to be writing for that rag...It must kill her to know that her carefully constructed words are fated to adorn the arsecrack of many a sweaty builder who's had one too many tikka masala's the night before
hopeless case
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“I'm sorry but anyone who thinks "Michelle is absolutely certain she will win and has no qualms about sharing that information" is a put down s laughable.”

I have watched CBB and other reality shows far more than I would care to admit in
polite company.

And one of the overwhelming reactions from the British public about people who declare a desire to win or think they will win is disdain.

So much so that most contestants on reality shows do the "oh I don't think I will win and I haven't come here to win" speech whenever they get the opportunity.

If they are asked outright if they would like to win they say "oh that would be lovely of course but I never thought I would, I haven't given it a second thought and that's not why I'm here"

So, yes, I think that broadcasting the desire of someone wanting to win is a put down because the reaction is already known.

They do it in the house! "Oh he is desperate to win" etc. it is not a compliment. It is a derisory comment.
hopeless case
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“I thought she was in full-on trolling mood and trying hard to get everyone wound up.”

What? When she said "that's not fair, I think Michelle knows my feelings about her" or words to that effect?
Pete_Lashmar
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by hopeless case:
“I have watched CBB and other reality shows far more than I would care to admit in
polite company.

And one of the overwhelming reactions from the British public about people who declare a desire to win or think they will win is disdain.

So much so that most contestants on reality shows do the "oh I don't think I will win and I haven't come here to win" speech whenever they get the opportunity.

If they are asked outright if they would like to win they say "oh that would be lovely of course but I never thought I would, I haven't given it a second thought and that's not why I'm here"

So, yes, I think that broadcasting the desire of someone wanting to win is a put down because the reaction is already known.

They do it in the house! "Oh he is desperate to win" etc. it is not a compliment. It is a derisory comment.”

And we've seen Michelle in floods of tears talking about her fears of not getting to the final when Perez came back in - so if we have seen her & her desperation about it I cannot see how anyone can doubt it.
paralax
30-01-2015
There is a cultural difference, Americans are not afraid to show confidence, it is respected, whereas we tend to see it as arrogance. Michelle has been making digs at Katie, behind her back of course, she is probably seeing Katie as more competition than she thought now she has heard the cheers. Interesting to see how she reacts if Katie gets more cheers this week.
momoriro
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Lucy Lou:
“I wish they would show this on BB........

Marcus "Katie Hopkins has gone to the diary room to write stuff about the other Housemates"

I imagine the other HM's don't know she is doing this?”

Originally Posted by Cat-:
“It would be even better if her blog was read out to her fellow hms. I wonder what her hanger-ons would think about her then.”

Originally Posted by missfrizzy:
“It's one thing Michelle thinking it, and quite another for her "friend" in the house telling everyone who reads the Sun how Michelle is desperate to win.

It's a bit like my thinking I look fat today, but would I want my mate to tell everyone on Twitter? Hardly.”

Originally Posted by Menk:
“KH is blatantly trying to lead the public down the path of mistrusting the Americans.

The last winner was American after all.”

Why has she teamed up with Cami & Michelle if she is so against Americans being in the show, she is such a two faced bitch wait till they get out and find out what a back stabbing bitch she actually is.
allie4
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“Michelle is absolutely certain she will win and has no qualms about sharing that information

I would hardly say that this is slagging her off, Michelle has said this herself and Katie is just reiterating it.”

I agree- though Michelle might see it differently. Michelle, I thought, was a bit off Katie now as she was supporting KP's rant against Hopkins last night?. Funny lot.
Pete_Lashmar
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by momoriro:
“Why has she teamed up with Cami & Michelle if she is so against Americans being in the show, she is such a two faced bitch wait till they get out and find out what a back stabbing bitch she actually is.”

It's a game & she probably couldn't give a toss what anyone thinks.
dog_eat_dog
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“I'm sorry but anyone who thinks "Michelle is absolutely certain she will win and has no qualms about sharing that information" is a put down s laughable.”

Can't you see what she's getting at here? The public don't like HMs to get too big for their boots, too confident in their popularity (see Wolfy/Sezer).

She's not only pitting the American contestants against the British ones, she's outing her closest ally in the house as over confident. I'd love to know where she's suddenly got this patriotic fervor from, given how she regularly slates a large proportion of 'her British public'. That's what's laughable to me.
hopeless case
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“And we've seen Michelle in floods of tears talking about her fears of not getting to the final when Perez came back in - so if we have seen her & her desperation about it I cannot see how anyone can doubt it.”

We have seen that yes! We have seen her look desperate to get to the final.

KH says Michelle is absolutely certain she will win. There is a difference. It also doesn't explain the tears of desperation to get to the final. Someone who is absolutely certain is hardly going to be crying about not getting to the final.

KH has slipped up here.
hopeless case
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Think it's rhyming slang. Carefully chosen.”

oh well, that went right over my head
yogacats
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Pete_Lashmar:
“I'm sorry but anyone who thinks "Michelle is absolutely certain she will win and has no qualms about sharing that information" is a put down s laughable.”

You are all missing the point! Michelle MAY have said something to this effect. What she definitely won't know is it's being repeated in a newspaper column, by the one person Michell probably thinks she can trust, so KH can make revenue from it. It's a betrayal, it's two faced, backstabbing, call it what you like. It's not just 'the words' themselves.
yowie29
30-01-2015
Maybe Hopkins is just being a selfless friend and desperately wants michelle to win. What if she is deliberately slagging her off so she gets sympathy votes from the GBP. Good old Katie, great friend
Menk
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by momoriro:
“Why has she teamed up with Cami & Michelle if she is so against Americans being in the show,”

Who else could she team up with? She hangs around with anyone who doesn't dislike her.
Cat-
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by dog_eat_dog:
“Can't you see what she's getting at here? The public don't like HMs to get too big for their boots, too confident in their popularity (see Wolfy/Sezer).

She's not only pitting the American contestants against the British ones, she's outing her closest ally in the house as over confident. I'd love to know where she's suddenly got this patriotic fervor from, given how she regularly slates a large proportion of 'her British public'. That's what's laughable to me.”

I agree. Suddenly the British public are her people. I think she must mean the Tory party and the Royal family.
Helenbemerry
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by missfrizzy:
“She should not have been allowed to air her views on the housemates in her column whilst she is in there.

Having said that, her comments on her "friends" says more about her than them. She is just a two faced wazzock. It's a shame people are so dumb or they wouldn't have been sucked in by her nicey nicey act.”

It's more of a shame that people are so dumb that they can't see the article they are showing was written by someone else and is only quoting a few lines that Katie said - the person saying Michelle is arrogant and cocksure of herself is the writer of the article, not Katie.
Conehead
30-01-2015
Let's face it, she could just be casting an eye over something an intern on the Sun has written for her.
I was interested to read that she now has a wish list on Amazon so all her followers can pamper her.
king_kong1
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by dog_eat_dog:
“Yep, she's been allowed to spread her propaganda for the second week running.

In the latest installment, she decries the Americans and even slags off her best pal, Michelle, saying she's so cocksure of herself that she believes she is definitely going to win.

http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...ng-to-win.html

With friends like Katie, who needs enemies?”

Good old Katie.
momoriro
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Helenbemerry:
“It's more of a shame that people are so dumb that they can't see the article they are showing was written by someone else and is only quoting a few lines that Katie said - the person saying Michelle is arrogant and cocksure of herself is the writer of the article, not Katie.”

Of course it was as we have seen for ourselves the stupid bitch can barely string a sentence together and is a witty as a alkys rug, she can barely dress herself and the bag lady style does nothing for her, all she has any talent for is bitching behind people's backs and kissing ass too their faces.
Conehead
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by momoriro:
“Of course it was as we have seen for ourselves the stupid bitch can barely string a sentence together and is a witty as a alkys rug, she can barely dress herself and the bag lady style does nothing for her, all she has any talent for is bitching behind people's backs and kissing ass too their faces.”

BIB? How does that work?
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