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Should vote to save and vote to evict run at the same time?
InMyArms
30-01-2015
How it would work;

Housemate A, who is a big character, gets 64,853 votes to save and 35,693 votes to evict. Giving a net of +29160

Housemate B is a minor character in the house, they get 4423 votes to save and 5403 votes to evict, giving them a net of -980

Housemate C is perceived as vile, with almost no redeeming qualities (think Pauline from the Summer, or Kenneth BB10). They get 593 votes to save and 45948 votes to evict, giving a net of -45355

Housemate D is marmite (Think Speidi), they get 66,495 votes to save and 66,493 votes to evict, giving them a net of +2.

The eviction would work like this

Housemate A (+29160 votes)
Housemate D (+2 votes)
Housemate B (-980 votes)
Housemate C (-45355 votes)

C would be evicted.

I really thing a formula like this would really show who the viewers want to stay and who they want to see go.
fisch
30-01-2015
Do you really think that some of the mindless morons who vote would ever have a clue what you are on about. Probably end up voting both ways for the same person.
reader123
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by fisch:
“Do you really think that some of the mindless morons who vote would ever have a clue what you are on about. Probably end up voting both ways for the same person.”

My sentiments exactly.
jeanoj
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by fisch:
“Do you really think that some of the mindless morons who vote would ever have a clue what you are on about. Probably end up voting both ways for the same person.”

LOL
james2018
30-01-2015
I've always thought this would definitely be the fairest way. But yeah, there are a lot of idiots who watch this show.
Stuart25
30-01-2015
I would like it... but most of the viewers won't understand if they're voting to save or evict the person; and it would mean having, for instance, 24 phone lines, instead of 12
InMyArms
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I would like it... but most of the viewers won't understand if they're voting to save or evict the person; and it would mean having, for instance, 24 phone lines, instead of 12”

Surely even the biggest of idiots would understand a screen that said

Quote:
“Vote to SAVE Perez ----------------Vote to EVICT Perez
Call: 123456789 ----------------------Call: 987654321”

And if they could not may I suggest they have their phone removed and be put into some kind of special home
46+2
30-01-2015
I've always thought so and it would make sense to make more money.
Many times I've not voted to save because I didn't want to save any of them. Other times I've not voted to evict because I didn't really want to evict any of them.
You always dislike 1 person more but I could never bring myself to vote to save for someone I also dislike. The same with liking and evict.

My friend also had a good idea about doing one series where the evictee's don't actually leave the house. Everything is the same, noms, votes, emma etc but they go out for an interview then go back in no longer taking part in the game.
If you think about it and imagine it, I think that would be amazing.
Stuart25
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“Surely even the biggest of idiots would understand a screen that said



And if they could not may I suggest they have their phone removed and be put into some kind of special home ”

I like the idea, but I just think it would be too confusing. It would take Emma/Rylan an age to read out all the numbers, whilst trying to make a clear distinction between the save and evict numbers
46+2
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I like the idea, but I just think it would be too confusing. It would take Emma/Rylan an age to read out all the numbers, whilst trying to make a clear distinction between the save and evict numbers”

Not really. Every HM has a 2 digit number don't they? Then you only need 1 save number and 1 evict number. 2 phone numbers and a HM number. Most votes come from the app anyway so you don't even need a number, just thumb a face.
MargMck
30-01-2015
I like this idea but we are probably stuck with 'vote to save' for those willing to spend, as the best option.
Both vote to evict, and evict-or-save votes allow for targeting. If you have vote to evict then those who want to do a betting scam have just one person to target, putting their money on a rank outsider to go, taking good odds until they fall below the profit margin, and then voting to get that person out. People in the betting scam might spend £200 betting, £200 phone calls, and get say £2,000 back when they are evicted. Easy profit.

The best way to guard against targeting is vote to save with multiple candidates - four people up minimum rather than 2 - so that scammers need to make three times as many calls to get the result they want, therefore not cost effective.
InMyArms
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by 46+2:
“Not really. Every HM has a 2 digit number don't they? Then you only need 1 save number and 1 evict number. 2 phone numbers and a HM number. Most votes come from the app anyway so you don't even need a number, just thumb a face. ”

I'd be shocked if most votes came from the app, not everyone has the app but almost everyone has a phone. I for example have a windows phone which cannot accommodate the app. Older viewers are likely to prefer the traditional voting method. Also the app votes cost the same as phone voting only you have to buy two even if you only want to vote once, and it is far easier to make a call than it is to use an app anyway.

I'd imagine that the only way app votes would outweigh phone votes would be if they were free, like they are on X Factor.
Norn2
30-01-2015
ha that's a good idea
Super Frog
30-01-2015
It's a good idea. Big Brother wouldn't want to go back to risk losing the entertaining ones through people voting them out though.
InMyArms
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by Super Frog:
“It's a good idea. Big Brother wouldn't want to go back to risk losing the entertaining ones through people voting them out though.”

In the summer series the format for the past two years has been vote to evict, so that's not true really
Super Frog
30-01-2015
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“In the summer series the format for the past two years has been vote to evict, so that's not true really ”

I barely watch those

Maybe they'll go back to handing out passes to the final in the summer
jp761
30-01-2015
Now if you know a few thousand Carol Vodermans and Rachel Rileys then yes great idea

Just imagine a few thousand of those two though mm haha
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